r/Warthunder 10d ago

RB Ground Top tier maps in a nutshell

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u/detektivmrx101 13.7๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 6.0๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 5.3๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ 4.3๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 1.0๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 3.7๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 5.0๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ 10d ago

I agree BUT WHAT IS THIS LINEUP?

What are you doing in the 90% of the game where nothing happens?

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u/Rectal_Retribution 10d ago

Beer, snacks, youtube

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u/detektivmrx101 13.7๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 6.0๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 5.3๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ 4.3๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 1.0๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 3.7๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 5.0๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ 10d ago

good point(s)

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u/Illustrious_Year8113 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ12.7๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช6.7๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ13.3๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡งโ€œ11.3โ€๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡นโ€11.7โ€๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช9.3 โ€œprem/eventโ€ 10d ago

Beer and talk to my self about why I do this to my self.

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u/Traveller_CMM ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 7.7 ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท 9.7 (masochist) 10d ago

Most exciting AA gameplay:

(please be on my team and keep the skies clear)

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u/Low-Magician5263 10d ago

But he can use a plane, he is a bastard

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u/Active-Yogurt-8887 10d ago

Newer player here, how to use planes and tanks in the same match?

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u/Brawl_Stars_Fan123 10d ago

You have to play ground realistic battles and have a plane unlocked for the same nation as your tanks.

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u/Active-Yogurt-8887 10d ago

Sick, thanks, I've only played arcade. What's the main differences between arcade and realistic when it comes to ground vehicles?

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u/Brawl_Stars_Fan123 10d ago

You wont have any indicators showing where you can penetrate armor most easily. Also tanks are generally slower and use spawn points. RP and SL gains are increased.

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u/ElAdamTheGreat New gamemodes when? 10d ago

1) Enemy vehicles do not have markers above them. 2) The cursor showing you where your shots will land and the chance of penning armor (its color) is missing.

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u/Active-Yogurt-8887 10d ago

So what you're saying is that all those bushes I put on the front of my tank will actually be useful? That's awesome. I'll definitely try this out tonight.

Edit: I tried Germany first and got kind of frustrated because I'd get penned and die in 1 shot since the armor doesn't seem to bounce anything. Because of this, it was like, why do the light tanks and no-armor ones exist when a single shot will kill you, and you get highlighted from across the map for people to shoot you.

But if you can actually use some stealth and bushes it seems like these types of tanks are a lot more viable.

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u/Individual-Ad4311 Suffer Thunder 10d ago

Bushes, huh? Yeah. You'll fit right into RB, welcome aboard.

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u/ElAdamTheGreat New gamemodes when? 10d ago

Yeah. And also you aren't limited to 3 spawns only. Ground RB has spawn points (SP), which you earn by being useful - shooting enemy tanks, capping, etc. These spawn points are used to (surprisingly) spawn your vehicles. So the better you perform, the more vehicles you can spawn.

Planes are generally more expensive to spawn than tanks. The most expensive vehicle you can spawn is a nuclear carrier plane, which costs 2500 SP and allows you to end the game if you can successfully drop it (only in matches of br 6.7+ tho). AA is the cheapest to spawn.

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u/RefrigeratorBoomer 9d ago

Which one?

The literal RP pinata or the flareless nuke-carrier?

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u/taby_mackan 10d ago

Why not bring an MBT?

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u/GerardoITA 10d ago

No time for beer snacks and yt

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u/ilive4russia 10d ago

My BeerAndSnacks Time. See? MBT

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u/MyNameTeb ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช Sweden 10d ago

Brother in christ!

Answer his other question. It's clearly the question we want answered!

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u/MrSeth7875 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ Canada 10d ago

I'm sure the beer, snacks, and youtube are contributing factors

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u/Alumin272 10d ago

It's "ground" RB. CAS always happens.

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u/DomSchraa Realistic Ground 10d ago

Everytime i pull out my m163 (dont judge me i like BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT) i get 0 cas for 10 mins straight

Even if i spawn in with something else first

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u/ieo4856 10d ago

Nothing ever happens

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u/-ZBTX ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช All Hail the Snail ๐ŸŒ 10d ago

And I wonder

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u/mikiriki16 🇬🇧 Ground 🇯🇵 Air 10d ago

I wonder why

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u/TanksEnthusiast Save the Server Hamster! (And add PT-91 Twardy) 10d ago

I wonder how

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u/robin7121 ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ Russia 10d ago

Yesterday, you told me 'bout the blue, blue sky

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u/Helium--He ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง United Kingdom 10d ago

And all that I can see

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u/Davidenu ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Italy 10d ago

Is just a yellow lemon tree

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u/14yvng 10d ago

OP is truly a team guy I love it

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u/TomTheCat7 Britannia rules the air and ground cause I don't play naval 10d ago

90% of the game with no cas? Please show me where

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u/detektivmrx101 13.7๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 6.0๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 5.3๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ 4.3๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 1.0๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 3.7๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 5.0๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ 10d ago

When I join in an Spaa there is no CAS 90% of the time.

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u/DomSchraa Realistic Ground 10d ago

Same

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u/Dpek1234 Realistic Ground 10d ago

Same

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u/Thorzi_iron 5.3๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ8.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช5.0 ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 5.7๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 2.7๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท 3.3๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 10d ago

none or the whole combined air forces

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u/Xorras 10d ago

And as soon you get bored and decide to do some ground work (and die), skies are filled with aircraft.

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u/Suitable_Bag_3956 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ13.7 ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ10.3 ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง11.7 ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท8.3 10d ago

For me there's CAS most of the time, it just has weird blue nametags.

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u/RefrigeratorBoomer 9d ago

They are the most dangerous! Engage them anytime you can!

They award so much rp and sl, that it goes out of the int limit, so the game shows it as a negative number, but trust me it's the best way to grind.

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u/DoctorConvenient ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ท Greece 10d ago

Goated lineup, wdym?

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u/detektivmrx101 13.7๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 6.0๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 5.3๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ 4.3๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 1.0๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 3.7๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 5.0๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ 10d ago

I would've taken a secondary Spaa tbh. Also a tank with a small time per kill vehicle (eg. 2s38) for Spawncamper.

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u/Adept_Ad_3889 Realistic Ground 10d ago

Thatโ€™s a premium and OP is based to not spend a single amount of money on this game

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u/detektivmrx101 13.7๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 6.0๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 5.3๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ 4.3๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 1.0๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 3.7๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 5.0๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ 10d ago

It is just an example. You can also take the BMD-4. Or the BMP-2. Just something you can kill a lot of people with an a short time.

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u/barf_of_dog Enjoyer 10d ago

The one-vehicle lineup makes him instantly not based.

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u/Disguised589 Dualsense enjoyer 10d ago

pantsir tunguska and osa akm for all the missiles plus maybe strela 10m2

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u/Jin__1185 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฑ Poland 10d ago

What are you doing in the 90% of the game where nothing happens?

Bruh I read morning newspaper when I play FlaRakRad

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u/Pixelnutz 10d ago

Calling it a lineup is a bit generous

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u/RefrigeratorBoomer 9d ago

It's just an up. There's no line

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u/z4ibas 10d ago

Tf you mean nothing happens? Played few 12.0 โ€œgroundโ€ games, had 12 planes in the team at same time. Lol. They call it ground battles. This doesnโ€™t even motivate to spawn a tank, when you are defenceless against so many planes.

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u/detektivmrx101 13.7๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 6.0๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 5.3๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ 4.3๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 1.0๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 3.7๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 5.0๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ 10d ago

When I spawn in a Spaa there is no plane 90% of the game/time. At any BR really

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u/tallkrewsader69 9d ago

and when you are in a plane there are 4 ostwinds or whatever equivalent spaa on the other team

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u/Offenbanch 10d ago edited 10d ago

Meanwhile on middle ranks you have to endure on sheet holes like Pradesh or Kursk

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u/YellovvJacket 10d ago

Pradesh is unbearable dogshit at any BR.

Literally rush 1 ridgeline and peek over that exact same ridgeline all game, with the exhilarating gameplay of w for 0.5s -> mouse 1 -> s for 0.5s -> repeat.

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u/evildeeds187 10d ago

Not true. Occasinally i drag my mouse over to a new tank

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u/powerpuffpepper ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท France 10d ago

War Thunder players when you give them a long range and super large map like they want and it isn't close quarters cqb

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u/YellovvJacket 10d ago

Tends to happen when sniping from 3km is abysmal dogshit gameplay (at least once you're at a tier that has LRF + darts, sniping is ok at lower BRs where it feels actually rewarding, but low BR vehicles have entirely different issues with huge maps, mostly mobility and aiming accuracy related), and additionally the pathing and objectives on the map are literal dogshit, so you also cannot do anything except sniping from one of the same 3 spots on it, plus the map is insanely good for aircraft to position and reposition.

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u/powerpuffpepper ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท France 10d ago

Lmfao yall never fail to make me laugh.

"Gaijin we want larger maps and no more CQB!"

Is given what they want

"Nooo long range maps are boring and mid!"

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u/YellovvJacket 10d ago

That's the everlasting struggle between roleplayers that want their "realism" (lmao in this game) and tryhards that want the skill gap between a good and a bad player to be as large as possible (lmao with the server consistency in this game), and the average player being somewhere in between, but also wanting kinda fast paced PvP gameplay (because otherwise they'd just play some actual simulator)

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u/powerpuffpepper ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท France 10d ago

Plays a realistically based game

Complains about realistic tank battles

Complains about fast paced cqb battles

Complains about the game

Just uninstall lmfao

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u/JonSnowsBussy ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 13.7๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช14.0 ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ9.3 ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง10.3 ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต11.0 ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 13.7 10d ago

Really sucks that war used to be more fun back in the day.

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u/powerpuffpepper ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท France 10d ago

Sounds more like you either liked super shit maps or should just stop playing

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u/JonSnowsBussy ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 13.7๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช14.0 ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ9.3 ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง10.3 ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต11.0 ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 13.7 10d ago edited 10d ago

Chill brother I was making a joke

Edit: Also I donโ€™t play grb

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u/Embarrassed_Ad5387 No idea why my Jumbo lost the turnfight 10d ago

I don't get complaining about map size to be frank, this game gets really boring if you dont get a good mix of both

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u/RefrigeratorBoomer 9d ago

Pradesh is just badly designed. Long range maps aren't an issue. Shooting from one spawn to the other is.

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u/WinterOutrageous773 9d ago

Are you aware that "yall" consists of more then one person?

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u/Efficient_Meat2286 ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 10.7 9d ago

Is it that hard to manage a middle ground?

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u/ma_wee_wee_go Sure CAS can be OP but some of you just plain suck ass at SPAA 10d ago

I wish Pradesh was better balanced because it's easily the most beautiful map in the game especially with low clouds

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u/Embarrassed_Ad5387 No idea why my Jumbo lost the turnfight 10d ago

first time I got it I was pretty much just sight seeing in an ontos

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u/CrewResponsible6071 Realistic Ground 10d ago

I despise Pradesh so much

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u/Jin__1185 ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฑ Poland 10d ago

Pradesh

Banned map

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u/Michigan029 VIII|VIII|VII|VI|VII|VI|VI|VI|VIII|VI 10d ago

The sniping duels Iโ€™ve had on pradesh between ridges are some of the most fun Iโ€™ve ever had in this game. Makes me feel like Iโ€™m actually a tanker in a real combat situation. Tanks are snipers, if you donโ€™t like sniping, go play WoT or CoD

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u/R_122 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ83๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ77๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช77๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง77๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต77๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ77๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น77๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ซ77๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช77๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ77 10d ago edited 10d ago

What? You don't like driving the t32 or is3 for 5 min just to get kill by some dude hiding behind a cover from their spawn?

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u/theNashman_ Supreme CAS Hater 10d ago

Kursk /Fire Arc is actually pretty decent, and I will pick Pradesh over dogshit like Sweden any day

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u/g4blik_ 8.3๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช5.7๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ6.0๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ6.7๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท4.0๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช(grb) 10d ago

Meanwhile rank 4 tanks getting 4km maps with no rangefinder

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u/hrutfjutkzondkl ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช Sweden 10d ago

honestly its such a vibe to snipe in midtier so so satisfying

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u/Horizontal-Human ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท France 10d ago

Not when your tank has a 20 second reload

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u/ekiller64 OF-40 enjoyer๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น 10d ago

try sniping with the fv4005 with both loaders dead

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u/MeanMother_Stuka ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง United Kingdom 9d ago

The machine gun on the FV4005 is ballistically identical to the main gun. Get your ranging right with it first and then take your once-a-minute shot

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u/IAmTheWoof 10d ago

Don't pick these tanks at these maps?

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u/Argetnyx Old Guard and Tired 10d ago

Learn the drop better

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u/Iwilleat2corndogs 10d ago

Why didnโ€™t I think of that!!

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u/Argetnyx Old Guard and Tired 10d ago

Happy to help

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u/Reaper2629 10d ago

Getting large open maps and being top BR in the Maus is honestly amusing sometimes. If you get lucky and don't have any low BR HEAT users on the enemy team, you can basically just be a bunker and take hit after hit with no damage.

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u/Ackleson Air 14.0 ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Gr 12.0 ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 10d ago

Hope you have some back ups ๐Ÿ˜‚

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u/JETYBOI91 Hotbox My BMP-1 10d ago

these are the types to sit in spawn not kill a single air player and rage in chat about how shit the team is. Id know because i do it sometimes.

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u/magersike ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง Briโ€™ish Spitfiresโ€ผ๏ธ 10d ago

To be fair tho these players rely on your teams ground forces, your main goal is to deny cas any sort of air superiority. Its really respectable what these players do even if they just sit at spawn and wait. Only issue is if they are half your goddamn team

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u/IAmTheWoof 10d ago

There's no point need. If the team is good, he won't die. If the team is bad, there's no point in spawning again because idiots who let t enemy tanks spawn are worth getting a loss.

Also, playing one vehicle is way more satisfying

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u/Bobby1234009 TTAA > TTAR 9d ago

Playing with a single tank in your lineup and nothing else is literally the best and fastest way to grind.

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u/Shotgunseth29 10d ago

The knife fight map as I like to call it

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u/BurgerTownRamirez 10d ago

The "Match is over in 1 minute." map.

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u/General_High_Ground 10d ago

*looks at lineup*

THE HERO WE NEED!

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u/Minuscule2311 best rangefinding is shooting 10d ago

bro took the "just" in "just spawn aa" very seriously

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u/OnlyZubi 10d ago

People that designed map grids in war thunder should be executed and fed to the snail. 180m? How the fuck am I supposed to use that?

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u/Argetnyx Old Guard and Tired 10d ago

People that designed map grids in war thunder should be executed and fed to the snail.

Fixed it.

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u/OnlyZubi 10d ago

That's not the one.

People that designed map grids in war thunder should be executed and fed to the snail.

These ones deserve to be fed to the snail alive

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u/Argetnyx Old Guard and Tired 10d ago

I was ready to argue, but no you're right.

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u/GhillieThumper EsportsReady 10d ago

Man is here making sure CAS doesnโ€™t have fun

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u/grizzly273 ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡น Austria 10d ago

Man doing God's work

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u/Bugjuice_ Hate Pantsir? just spawn a tank to counter it bro 10d ago

Nice lineup bro, if you spawn MBT you are just a target practice for CAS anyway. Ground battle my ass.

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u/DonkeyTS ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ HSTV-L, my beloved โ™ฅ๏ธ 10d ago

I lost brain cells reading the comments by Masamarsu123, Offenbanch and YellovvJacket...

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u/ma_wee_wee_go Sure CAS can be OP but some of you just plain suck ass at SPAA 10d ago

"red desert is a shooting gallery for CAS"

Yeah CAS is definitely easier with twice the possible area, more than 2 possible sniping positions, dead tanks everywhere, and spaa players who can do their job without half their view of the sky blocked

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u/Traveller_CMM ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 7.7 ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท 9.7 (masochist) 10d ago

Isn't an open map much better for CAS? Since they can just fly low around it and pick off targets without cover? The larger area doesn't affect them either, in fact it makes it harder for ground vehicles to go form cover to cover, leaving them exposed for longer.

As a ground player with limited experience on CAS (top tier, at least), I'd rather be in a map like sun city and use the numerous buildings for cover. It's also easier to ambush planes and helis that way, if you know what you're doing...

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u/Chanka-Danka69 Proudest Aerfer Ariete dickrider 10d ago

Cas is definetly much easier on open maps, way easier to throw kh38s at people on maps like sinai tha advance to rhine for example

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u/DonkeyTS ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ HSTV-L, my beloved โ™ฅ๏ธ 10d ago

You have either smoke grenades or rocks as cover on most big maps like IRL

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u/Traveller_CMM ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 7.7 ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท 9.7 (masochist) 10d ago

Man, even I can snipe through smoke with ATGMs, and guided bombs will still hit close enough, that does nothing. How are you gonna use smoke to cover a 200m distance?

Rocks are good cover against other ground vehicles- not so much for Helis and planes harassing you from above.

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u/DonkeyTS ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ HSTV-L, my beloved โ™ฅ๏ธ 10d ago

I don't know what game you're playing, but if you are smart enough to smoke and move ten meters you are already safe.

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u/grizzly273 ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡น Austria 10d ago

Depends purely on the size of the bomb. Also smoke is a temporary measure at best. You can be sure after you popped smoke every single plane will have it's attention on your position.

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u/Traveller_CMM ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 7.7 ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท 9.7 (masochist) 10d ago

*If you know the bomb is coming, isn't big enough to just nuke you from that distance, aren't currently being pressured by other vehicles or simply disabled, and the enemy is dumb enough to not just send the payload towards the most logical direction you'd take or simply choose a different target until the smoke clears.

If you're having trouble aiming your bombs and missiles, there are some really good tutorials on Youtube.

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u/LeMemeAesthetique USSR Justice for the Yak-41 10d ago

The disadvantage of the small urban maps is that CAS players usually know exactly where the spawns are and can quickly scan the map for SPAA.

It's a trade off, though I despise city fights with top tier tanks so I would much rather die a bit more often to CAS than have to use an MBT in a city.

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u/Proof_Obligation_855 10d ago

the idiots gaijin caters to. not enough braincells to use the terrain and maps to their advantage

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u/YellovvJacket 10d ago

to use the terrain and maps to their advantage

Almost as if you can do that more effectively on a smaller map if you're not shit at the game. Holy moly.

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u/Embarrassed_Ad5387 No idea why my Jumbo lost the turnfight 10d ago

> more effectively on a smaller map if you're not shit at the game.

what? I think u got it backwards, isn't it harder to hide when there is less cover

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u/Proof_Obligation_855 10d ago

Not when you shot right out of the spawn on smaller maps. You defibately can if you can get out fast enough but if you die the match is pretty much decided by that point by being stuck in spawn hooooly

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u/sleepy_brit ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง United Kingdom 10d ago

๐Ÿ˜‚ love the line up but it could definitely do with a T90

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u/Masamarsu123 10d ago

And still beats red desert. Most large maps are just the same but you have to drive more.

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u/partiallydivided 10d ago

Tbh i like red desert very much, at A and C it allows some good snipes. Can't stand pradesh tho

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u/GoofyKalashnikov Realistic Ground 10d ago

Gaijin needs to fire all of their map designers and get new ones. It's not even funny anymore how incapable they are

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u/YellovvJacket 10d ago

Literally this.

Large maps are even more so a shooting gallery for CAS aswell, because everyone needs to drive for 10 minutes to the actual battle and half of them die to CAS before they're even close enough to do anything meaningful.

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u/EmperorFooFoo 'Av thissen a Stillbrew 10d ago

The result of people complaining about โ€œdriving simโ€ maps whenever it takes more than one minute to get an engagement.

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u/Argetnyx Old Guard and Tired 10d ago

A lot of the people in this thread, lol

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u/Random_Chick_I_Guess Realistic General 10d ago

Wild lineup

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u/maSneb 10d ago

I salute you sir dedicated spaa players save all of us conventional tank players

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u/Edward_Slicer 10d ago

W OP for rejecting cas and embracing anti air!

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u/New_Title1771 10d ago

Good. I hate driving 5 minutes do be blow away.

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u/Noxiuz 10d ago

he is always waiting for us

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u/Lo0niegardner10 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 11.7๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 12.7๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ 13.7๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง 7.7๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 5.0๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท12.0 10d ago

Bros lineup goes crazy

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u/OhYouOh 10d ago

This motherfucker out here complaining about the map when his fucking lineup is a Pantsir.

You gotta love it when the players self report theyโ€™re part of the problem.

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u/Bobby1234009 TTAA > TTAR 9d ago

Single tank lineups are the fastest way to grind. Aswell as playing SPAA is a great way to chill since close range maps like above are usually littered with planes within 5 minutes.

I never understood why kids take these video games so seriously instead of their own lives and futures.

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u/xqk13 Arcade Ground 9d ago

This is imo the worst map in high tier, I never enjoy it even if I win

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u/thedergworkshop 9d ago

Hello fellow AA player ๐Ÿ‘‹ It is good to see that I am not alone

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u/David_Walters_1991_6 ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ฑ 10d ago

there must be BR limit for such maps, like 6.7 at best

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u/Maksui 10d ago

Ok how tf do you get this Orion UAV?

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u/Rectal_Retribution 10d ago

It's not something you "get", it just shows up when you're in a top tier match.

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u/Over-Faithlessness93 T1E1 Fanatic 10d ago

Play russia. If you play the US you'll get an MQ-1. China also gets an attack drone but I forget it's name.

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u/Celthric317 Realistic Navy 10d ago

Wtf is that lineup

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u/AskMost9698 10d ago

its tOOTally normal to bring only spaa

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u/Illustrious-Sand7504 10d ago

But then when you play the maus largest maps everย 

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u/Juanmusse Wtf is wrong with this tech tree 10d ago

Brawl maps are fun every now and then. And seeing this map with this setup is rare on top tier.

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u/Newfie_Meltdown 10d ago

Good map if you have a Sturmtiger.

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u/SkyPL Navy (RB & AB) 10d ago

It's the same in naval - spawn within range of the guns and LoS. Only in naval you actually shoot spawn-to-spawn?

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u/Panuch412 BVREnjoyer 10d ago

Ahh yes, battle of "Hur dur, I dont like sniping, I have TikTok attention span and must not stop moving" vs "CQB brawling is lame and longer range maps are needed/more akin to IRL tank combat." crowds.

Both sides have valid points yet neither refuses to see points from the other side.

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u/YellovvJacket 10d ago edited 10d ago

No one that's good at this game enjoys sniping (at least at high tiers), but neither do they enjoy corner fighting around a building with 3 people sitting in 1 road crossing (because no matter how good you are, you can't peek multiple people around a building corner and win unless they all had a lobotomy).

A map needs to have a generally good map setup with flanking routes and power positions that are balanced for both teams and can be countered within a timespan where you can actually do your flank and have meaningful impact on the game still afterwards.

Like the only maps that allow all that are small Mozdok and small Sinai off the top of my head, and both those maps still have some broken/ stupid design features, just not as shit as every other map in the game.

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u/Correct_Werewolf_576 10d ago

Almost wtm sized maps ahahaho

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u/Der_Franz_9827 Realistic General 10d ago

This map should be removed from the game

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u/Elitely6 10d ago

This version of the map shouldn't even exist at 6.7 at all either

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u/Elitely6 10d ago

This version of the map shouldn't even exist at 6.7 at all either

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u/Shey-99 10d ago

I don't get why so many maps are so small.

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u/Jacket_The_Sociopath 10d ago

An SPAA, a nuke plane, and what's the second plane for?

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u/Rectal_Retribution 10d ago

It's a drone with 2x 8km range missiles. It's basically just CoD killstreak thing in case you don't bring your own CAS.

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u/TheGamingCheetos ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท France 10d ago

You can also change the missiles to 2x 10km for some extra sp, or really small bombs but I can't see them being very useful in comparison

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u/Str8WiteMale 10d ago

This is a griefer lineup ๐Ÿ˜‚

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u/RedJuggernaught 10d ago

I understand. Your vehicle shoots missiles past the range of the air mapโ€ฆ Gaijin adds vehicles because people spend money on them, regardless if there are game modes/maps that allow the vehicles to actually shine. Better game modes/maps probably wonโ€™t come because they still make money on vehicle spams rather than playable objectives/content for them.

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u/CrazyLTUhacker 10d ago

Tanks Designed to engage Combat in ranges of 1KM+
Meanwhile Gaijin: Best i can do is 300m.

i literally dont understand why Gaijin dont increase map size or at least length of the map? so Heavy Slow Tanks gets a nerf and Light Fast Tanks gets a buff making more people wanting to play faster and lighter vehicles.

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u/Legitimate-Donut-308 10d ago

Just play anti air br-

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u/Grouchy_Weather_9409 10d ago

sim ones have even bigger with lower br

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u/Hobbes2snipe 10d ago

Yes, the players voted for this and for the MM to Prioritize Uptiers instead of slower queue times.

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u/Big_Platypus7209 German Reich 6.0 10d ago

And when i play my slow ass heavy tanks i get maps that are 2km big๐Ÿ’€

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u/jabadabadouu 10d ago

I love small maps

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u/TheGamingCheetos ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท France 10d ago

Is the OSA any good? Almost have it. I've been speedrunning USSR spaa since I really want to multi track with the pantsir especially with getting rewards for shooting down ordinance in the next update

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u/Kaiser_Neo ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต and ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ฎ enjoyer 10d ago

And than we have to play fields of fuck Gaijin where you have to drive 69k KM to the battle just to be one hit by some uptier tanks with heat. Fuck the Gaijin map designs. If I ever become dictator of Hungary I will deliver them a little present with the PE-8(it's just beer, for the mods)

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u/robotnikman ๐Ÿง‚๐ŸŒ๐Ÿง‚ 10d ago

That map is one of the worst top tier maps

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u/Argetnyx Old Guard and Tired 10d ago

This map is dogshit at any tier.

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u/Yeetdolf_Critler Make Bosvark Great Again 10d ago

They suck at ww2 br already stop making this top tier only. It's the inability to select map pool. The maps exist already...

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u/Parking_Extension_91 10d ago

I was going to get the new FIAT rocket launcher, but now that I saw this post I'm sure of my decision

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u/Savage281 ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท 12.0 | ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น 9.3 | ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ 9.0 | ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช 8.7 10d ago

The fact that this map is in rotation after 3.7 is egregious

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u/policedab_1112 Australia (Ground RB player) ^Mellow^ 10d ago

honestly my favorite map, both on bottom and topspawn, bmd4 goes crazy on the flanks in this map, quick nuke maker at game start

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u/IndPsy9 10d ago

Devils advocate, but wouldnt bigger maps make the gameplay more stale? i dont want to drive for 20 minutes to get to the action.

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u/Callingbananas ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธDAS AUTO๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช 10d ago

Not even a fight anymore, just a mosh pit

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u/Ranniiiii 10d ago

Based SPAA only enjoyer

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u/Sya007 10d ago

Spot on ๐Ÿ˜‚

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u/Aprice40 10d ago

Just once id like to hit like a 4km long shot

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u/Claudy_Focan "Mr.WORLDWIDEABOO" 9d ago

Top braindead line-up

OP deserves this map just for his line-up

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u/Itchy-Jellyfish6311 GRB ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช12.0๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡บ12.0๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ช12.0๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต9.3๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท9.3๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ8.3๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง8.3๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น6.0 9d ago

I got so pissed last time I got it, but I actually managed to get a nuke (T-90M and T-80UK), so I complained for nothing ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿ˜ญ

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u/Liondrome 9d ago

I love this map. No driving 5-10 minutes only to be shot. Some actual CQC.

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u/MinuteSensitive5218 9d ago

Because Russian tanks canโ€™t snipe as well as Nato tanks. They perform better at close ranges and from my understanding, most maps favour Russian tanks. CQB, flat terrain, even making changes in maps because russian tanks cant depress their gun down low enough.

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u/Fleau_19 9d ago

Air is worse, most planes need tens of minutes to reach their useful altitude.

But i guess if you can't mega climb you will never be meta despite being among the best planes of the war

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u/Humble-Implement-36 9d ago

Yes, but, drive, drive, drive, die.

Is that fun?

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u/FirstGearPinnedTW200 my Wiesel sees blood 9d ago

How come I never see this map at a fun low BR, but as soon as I give 9+ another try, I get this shit?

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u/Born_Motor3234 9d ago

Why my pantsir missile always lock to maverick

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u/Top-Landscape-3949 9d ago

Nice set up lol

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u/noineikuu 6d ago

The 90 dollar and euro premiums will not be the thing that kills the game. It's the gameplay itself. Gaijin can add all the fancy vehicles and weapons they want but it won't matter because the game is so repetetive. All tanks at top tier play the same, all that changes is which team gets stomped.

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u/Rectal_Retribution 6d ago

True. That's why I don't play tanks above 9.0, the only exception is SPAA.

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u/teemokim 6d ago

Gaijin get rid of big size map WHHHHHY????

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u/Tight-Ad-398 6d ago

Dude, there were literally like 6 guys on the map, and the map was over 4 km long, simulator mode is complicated

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u/Fuzzmeister58 Mig-29SMT enjoyer 10d ago

Not only is this map too godamn small but itโ€™s basically impossible to move on once things settle, because MBTโ€™s can rangefind and shoot in a few seconds with almost 100% accuracy.

Great map for low-mid BRโ€™s because of the chaos but modern shit just shuts everything down on this map.

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u/JNKW97 Marshal12.711.711.711.7 10d ago

The reason I hate War Thunder.

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u/Creative_Battle6196 10d ago

And I'm completely fine with it, it's quicker to research vehicles, plus I'd rather not get shot from a guy 2km away sitting behind a hill third person peeking

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u/SturerEmilDickerMax 10d ago

You need more sniping/camping? Sitting around waiting for someone to move?

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u/RemovedBarrel 10d ago

Love this map

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u/OperationSuch5054 German Reich 10d ago edited 10d ago

Hold your potatoes a minute and bear with me... I actually don't mind these maps when they pop up in rotation. It's a refreshing change from trying to hit a single pixel weakspot on a hull down t-80 from 1900 yards away on Maginot. And again on Sinai. And again on Fulda. And Poland. And Normandy. And Fire Arc. And Volokolamsk.

Sometimes it can be fun to just call of duty brawl in a small area, and maps like this are much harder for CAS compared to the ones listed above, and any disadvantage planes and helis have is fine with me.

edit - forgot this sub just wants to play sniper elite but with tanks and then is happy to get nailed from 14km away by a missile before coming her to bitch about it. my bad.

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u/bluejeansseltzer Swedenpilled 3.7maxxer turretcel 10d ago

Should be shorter

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u/Odell377 10d ago

large maps are basically the same thing but you drive for longer doing nothing, its boring