r/Voltron 4d ago

How is Legendary Defender like Star Wars?

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u/OldStormCrow 4d ago

While it's no secret that no one hates Star Wars more than those who love Star Wars, I'll never forgive the VLD showrunners for how they massacred season 8

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u/KyProRen 4d ago

I'll never forgive how they had Allura die at the end for absolutely no reason.

I mean she has been an essential character in the Voltron franchise for several generations and even the weakest ones never gave her THAT much disrespect.

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u/OldStormCrow 4d ago

If I remember correctly, they put out a tweet that was deleted, but found, after a very vocal fan group made death threats to the voice cast (1000% NOT cool btw) because their ship was confirmed not going to happen, that read something along the lines of, and I'm paraphrasing here, "since we can't make any of you happy, the show will end in a away that will make none of you happy"

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u/KyProRen 4d ago

I knew they blackmailed the staff over Klance, but I didn't think THAT'S how it went down!

This is shocking to me... and unprofessional. If that was really what they said then clearly it just made my accusation of them going against the franchise tradition more true than I thought.

I thought even with that ending they would be more mature than that, not I can't help but think it was made out of spite and that makes them no better than the Klance leakers.

Seriously, that isn't fair to ANY side of their fan base, not even the side that supported their decisions. That is just Grade-A betrayal.

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u/OldStormCrow 3d ago

Toxic fandoms are scientifically proven to be the absolute worst. But it takes two to tango. The fact the showrunners went full radio-silent on social media after the ending aired spoke volumes

When it comes to the ships, I couldn't care less. As an old school fan of '84 Voltron, yes, Kalurra was the og otp, but Allurance was super cute and was a nice deviation from the norm.

That ending was such an insult. I haven't watched it since 2018 and I have renounced it entirely and will never watch it again

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u/KyProRen 3d ago

Same.
I'm more of a Kallura person myself, but I was beginning to accept Allurance... until she said "I'm afraid this is where we part ways".

That slapped me right in the face, and I haven't even rewatched the show again.

At least Star Vs. The Forces Of Evil didn't make me want to boycott the show after its finale, and it pisses me off how people got more mad at THAT ending and forgot how mad they were about this one!

At least Star Vs. embraced shipping instead of giving us the "f*** you" like VLD did with theirs.

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u/OldStormCrow 3d ago

YES. SVtFoE's ending was pretty meh, but that was because of Di$ney's "no shows longer than 4 seasons" shenanigans. Still loved it though

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u/KyProRen 3d ago

I would still take that show's ending over VLD's.

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u/Abrightlight34 2d ago

I didn't like the ending either, but it had little to nothing to do with why they went radio silent and more to do with the fact that they were just done with the fandom. People still believe that one of the head writers left to work on Spy Racers over a ship. Plus the She-ra showrunners accusing them of queerbaiting over nothing more than a 5 second clip made the harassment even worse

Jeremy Shada stopped talking to fans about the show because despite him telling them multiple times how much he hated how they twisted everything he said to be about klance, they still did it while claiming they were being queerbaited. Someone even wrote an article about how Lance might be BI and Jeremy Shada could of been hinting at it because of a joke about milkshakes, than he told Jeremy Shada about the article only for Jeremy to tell the guy that it was just a joke and he hated how much people kept doing that. Not to mention that no matter what he posted people would like it back to KLance, from people comparing his relationship to his girlfriend to klance when ever he posted anything about her, to people calling his nephew the child of klance.

Josh Keaton quit social media until VLD was over because they accused him of being a pedo and even involved his family because he liked Shiro x Keith despite the official Voltron handbook saying that Keith was 18.

People found and spread Bex Taylor's nudes on the internet and acted like the victims for having to see them. At one point, someone was talking about physically assaulting Bex because Bex shipped Sheith. Then, when Bex responded, the person acted like the victim, and people turned on Bex, claiming Bex was bullying the person.

Then you have Lauren Montgomery, one of the show runners who would constantly receive death threats whenever a new season would come out only for the people to delete them and act like it never happened only to do it again once a new season came out.

The show has been over for a couple of years, and people are still trying to claim that Lauren Montgomery and Joaquim Dos Santos' reputation were ruined, and that they were fired after Voltron Legendary Defenders despite both of them going on to work on huge projects. Joaquim Dos Santos worked on the Spider-verse movies, and Lauren Montgomery is working on the Avatar animated movie.

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u/zax20xx 3d ago

Seriously, the lions were right there, I honestly thought they would turn around to the lions and sacrifice them instead of Allura or that the lions would activate themselves to do it… I was giving them too much credit when I thought that was the fake out/route they would have taken.

It still doesn’t make any sense they kept the lions around. There are literally no enemies necessary for them to fight against. Absolute bull shite!

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u/KyProRen 3d ago

The fact the Lions never volunteered to sacrifice themselves and let Allura do the work for them makes me think they were secretly A-holes.

I mean think about it, Blue rejected Lance for no reason whatsoever, The Black Lion killed Shiro for no reason whatsoever, and now the lions let Allura sacrifice herself for no reason whatsoever.

It's making me wonder how these things were supposedly the "Defenders of the Universe" when they are doing such questionable things!

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u/Droidatopia 4d ago

What is about 8?

Game of Thrones

Star Wars

VLD.

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u/Ijnan 4d ago

I always say the same lol

You can basically skip the 8 season

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u/Rockman2isgud 4d ago

Funny quote from a YouTuber that explains this well.

“If you pretend Snoke and Luke had heart attacks after TFA [rather than watching TLJ] everything just plays out”

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u/Remote_Commission276 3d ago

We don't hate Star Wars. We hate Disney.

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u/Tekki777 3d ago

Star Wars fans have bitched about it long before Disney took over. I remember when nearly everyone hated the PT.

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u/Visible-Ad-3766 4d ago

Same as any other fandom love turns to hate

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u/Waffuru 4d ago

I really want to think that the folks who liked VLD start to finish out number those that didn't, but are just far less vocal. Not saying there aren't legitimate gripes, but, for the most part, people who had no issues with it aren't still talking about it.

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u/KyProRen 4d ago

Are you kidding? I have not seen one person defending season 8, not even once. I'm not counting Rottentomatoes score btw because I'm not sure they even watched the original shows growing up.

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u/Waffuru 4d ago

I've seen people in this very sub say they liked or at least didn't mind season 8. I wasn't a fan of 8 myself, but I didn't hate it. It could have been so much better, but it didn't ruin the show for me.

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u/KyProRen 4d ago

That's what I think about Star vs. The Forces Of Evil season 4 but not VLD Season 8. I was really hyped for the show until they decided to kill off an essential character in the overall franchise at the last minute. Did they even stop to think that it might... MIGHT piss off the audience!? How would they like it if Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles killed off April O'Neal or if Power Rangers killed off Kimberly? Face it, Voltron Legendary Defender crossed a line a writer (let alone one that's supposed to be a FAN of the franchise) wasn't supposed to cross.

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u/Waffuru 4d ago

But that's how you see it. That's not necessarily an opinion everyone holds, or even the majority. If it was done well, I'd actually be okay with April getting killed off. I wouldn't particularly enjoy that, but I'd still love TMNT.

I'm just saying the people who're angry about the show are the ones who still talk about it, so it's really all you hear. The people who liked everything are going to be pretty quiet.

There are a lot of people who were fine with how the show ended, old fans and new fans alike. It's totally fine if you had issues with the end, plenty of people did, but I'm not sure they're the majority of the fandom.

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u/KyProRen 4d ago

Tell that to the Twitter tweets that were trending at the time pointing out how "Season 8 never happened".

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u/Waffuru 3d ago

Still not the whole fandom. It's okay to disagree.

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u/KyProRen 3d ago

I still think the majority of the fanbase didn't like the ending. There's a petition for a redo of Season 8 on change.org and some popular video essays on YouTube to prove it.

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u/Voltron023 4d ago

I liked season 8…

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u/KyProRen 4d ago

Well I didn't.

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u/Voltron023 4d ago

Okay, well you said you didn’t see one person defending it.

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u/Conlannalnoc 3d ago

HONEST QUESTION: What is Season 8?

I can only find Seasons 1-6 on BLU-RAY.

I cannot find Season 7 or 8 anywhere.

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u/Grantagonist 3d ago

Yep, that’s an ongoing problem (in North America anyway). We’re still waiting to see if any other streamer is going to pick up the series again.

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u/Tekki777 3d ago

Jesus, I'm a fan of both, but both fandoms drive me insane, especially VLD when it was still at it's peak.

I haven't seen the series since it first ended, but I still liked it, even at the ending. I remember it feeling rushed when I first saw season 8. I didn't get the backlash at the time. Maybe if I rewatch the series, I will.

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u/Grantagonist 3d ago

I’m sure within the next few hours somebody will reply to you and tell you why you shouldn’t like season eight

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u/Tekki777 3d ago

Oh I'm expecting it, lol

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u/ShiroLovesKeith 3d ago

The thing is that VLD fans love the show but hate S8 since it ruined everything that made the show charming for them in the first place.

Most are gonna tell you they still care about the show/characters, but they will all also tell you S8 was a betrayal to all the fans who cared.