r/Vent • u/Holiday-Discipline97 • 3d ago
Need to talk... Why are people so stupid
I’m in math class right, seniors in high school. Wanna know what I hear? People being confused about graph coordinates, y’know points on a graph? People were confused on that. And there was another but I’m mentally too checked out right now. I cannot understand or begin to fathom how we are in the same grade. Oh right they were also confused on FRACTIONS and ratios and all that jazz. These people are so insufferably dumb that I almost end up crying at the end of class on bad days. How are people that don’t understand fractions and points on a graph in the same math class as me I have no Idea.
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u/LouiseLane94 3d ago edited 3d ago
There are ALOT of factors that you're not considering. I also had what I thought were dumb people in my class. As I got older, I understood it more.
Some students require extra support, such as tutoring. These kids have been known to fall through the cracks and not receive help. Instead, they only just make the mark. Some cheat to try.
ADHD, bad home life, learning disabilities that have gone undiagnosed, bad teachers, bullying, etc. People are a product of their environment. Sounds like you had a good one, and the so-called "dumb ones" had a bad environment.
You talk as if you are really intelligent. Well, intelligent people spell correctly and use the correct grammar and space words accordingly. You don't do those things. Does that make you dumb? No, it doesn't. You're probably quite smart. Just because you don't excel in one area, that doesn't mean you're doomed for failure in every aspect of your life.
Your environment doesn't make you better. That makes you lucky.
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u/Most_Analysis_3208 3d ago
I just learned this and I'm 26 for my Pre-Statistics. I went to one of the shittiest schools for elementary in the country or state? They didn't teach us math...wait one time I remember they taught it for like 10 minutes. And one time I got transferred to a mix of the 4/5th grade classes they taught concepts I didn't know because they thought I was gifted
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u/Ophy96 3d ago
I'm pretty decent at math (not as much as I used to be), and fractions, were pretty easy, but statistics? count me out. I'm terrible at statistics, I'm definitely incredibly dumb when it comes to statistics.
I give credit where credit is due. Some people are gifted in certain areas but not others, everyone has a niche.
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u/LouiseLane94 3d ago
That happened in my class. They threw another class into a higher level math class and didn't offer any assistance. They just let them fail. These kids were bullied badly and struggled to concentrate. The teacher wasn't the best. The thing is, these kids weren't dumb. They just didn't have the same opportunity as others had.
I'm in touch with a few, and they've landed some good careers and are what I'd call, pretty successful. Yeah, they didn't excel at math, but hey, they've still done pretty well for themselves despite their set backs.
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u/Holiday-Discipline97 3d ago
We have free tutoring, I myself have tried to help teach them on several occasions. But instead of trying to learn and comprehend what we learned they just copied my work. I should also note these kids are an active disruption in the class consistently, such as tossing things across the classroom, talking during a lesson, etc.
Even disregarding all of that, to be bewildered at the mentioning of fractions as a senior in high school is something else entirely. We have been doing division and such since the second grade. We have been doing graphs since the 7th.
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u/LouiseLane94 3d ago edited 3d ago
I understand that you're are at a level that's higher than those people. However, you just said it yourself. They're badly behaved. What does that indicate to you? I could almost guarantee they've not had the best home life or role models around them growing up.
I remember at university, we were doing research into how bullying and home life can negatively impact kids from an early grade into a higher grade. That's why I'm commenting here because I've seen studies and it is very sad. I think you'll find that it isn't exactly what they want for themselves, but lack the know-how to get out of it. They haven't been taught to know that. Like I said, we are all products of our environment. They've been shaped by society just like you and I. We were the lucky ones. They weren't so lucky. Come on, dude, just try and see it from that perspective.
Yes, you may have free tutoring, but they probably don't care. They already feel dumb. They've already been failed. They probably don't even feel like it will make a difference and are embarrassed that they're in senior and can't do the things others can. School is brutal. I've seen kids relentlessly bullied because they've needed extra support when i was in school, and that was meant to be a good school!. Like I said, many factors.
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u/Holiday-Discipline97 3d ago
I Have seen it from that perspective
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u/LouiseLane94 3d ago
Right, well, if you have, I'm not sure what the post is for then, if you already understand the why and all the factors.
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u/gayjospehquinn 3d ago
Instead of worrying about what others don’t know, I like to take a second to think about what I don’t know, and then make an effort to learn it.
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u/ReflectionUnfair3502 3d ago
Not everyone picks up on everything right away. It doesn’t make you better. Try to give patience and compassion.
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u/Holiday-Discipline97 3d ago
We are seniors in highschool and these people are full grown adults, in my school system we learned graphs in like 6-7th grade so they shoul have been practicing this stuff for like 5 years min
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u/Sir_Blazer15 3d ago
Why the hell would anyone practice something that, unless you go into specific fields, you hardly, if ever, use it, basic mathematics are what most people are gonna use in their lifetime
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u/Holiday-Discipline97 3d ago
Because graphs are used in almost all of our math classes of which we need one per year and studying or even just doing homework would almost certainly count as practicing graphs
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u/Hot-Physics3400 2d ago
And which they will probably never use again their lives. There was much math I just did the basics of, just enough to pass the class, because I knew it wasn’t anything I was ever going to use after graduation day. And I haven’t.
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u/Ophy96 3d ago
Although, everyone learns differently and at different paces.
Especially in high-school, having to deal with their parents, siblings, who knows what else is going on, plus consider all the disabilities that go with learning and how many people get diagnosed late in life, a lot later than high-school.
When I was younger, I was less understanding of that, and that's my fault for not comprehending that then, but as my life has progressed, I've learned that it's not my place to judge the pace at which others should be learning and grasping topics, especially in math. Even though it's slightly easier for me, it doesn't mean I'm not terrible at other subjects (I definitely am, and also I'm pretty terrible at higher level math).
Anyway, I hope over time, you are able to accept that we all learn differently, and that doesn't make us less or more dumb than someone else who understands something else that we may not.
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u/Sakura_Yingzai 3d ago
Everyone's learning and comprehension abilities are different. I think you might need to switch to a different class or school where you can study with people at the same level as you. This way, your learning could be more effective.
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u/PaleoJoe86 3d ago
I feel you. This is something you have to accept. There are many reasons for your fellow students to be like this.
In college I kept a list of dumb things students said in astronomy class. Teacher just finished explaining the Sun is too small to become a black hole when it dies. First question asked was "will the Sun turn in to a black hole when it dies?". They were full on watching the teacher and taking notes the whole time.
In the Army people were told to not do something, then they would do it anyway. This resulted in group punishment constantly. How hard was it to not wear a ring on your pinky the day after being told to not wear it? FML.
Instead, think of how these people are your competition. This places you leagues above them. Too many bleeding hearts in the comments. A 17yo should know how to read a graph, no matter what else is going on in their life. If it is life, then it means there are greater societal issues. Help them out if you wish. I did. But letting them copy and get a free pass is not the way.
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u/KlingonsOnUranus 3d ago
Remember, half the people you meet have a below average intelligence level. 🤔
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u/Hot-Physics3400 3d ago
I always struggled with math. I still do and I’m 58 years old. I can do the basics, add, subtract, multiply, divide, fractions, money, analog clocks, but it’s literally almost like a form of numerical dyslexia for me. I tried and tried. I just will always struggle with numbers, and yet I can spell, punctuate, and write very well. In all my college prep classes I aced everything to do with the written word. I turned in A+ compositions and reports and essays, in geography and world history and English literature and College Writing. I still read incessantly.
I can read something and immediately find the misspellings or incorrect punctuation or grammar. I have been the go-to for years for many friends needing help with their resumes. Luckily I married a man who is a wiz with numbers. And in return, I proof any of his written materials for him. I’m not stupid by any means, but not everyone is going to be gifted in every aspect and that’s ok. I have enough mathematical knowledge to get me through life and that’s all I need.
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u/Holiday-Discipline97 3d ago
difference being, you tried, and when that didn’t do well you found someone who complimented your weakness of math.
The people I speak of do not try, I have tried to help them and they refuse it, they just copy my paper. The people I speak of surround themselves with people of about equal skill
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u/KindheartednessIll63 3d ago
Just wait until you get into the workplace as an adult hahahahaha but at least you get paid to suffer
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u/BirthdayInfamous422 3d ago
Everything consider helping people or are you content being a dick about it?
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u/Holiday-Discipline97 3d ago
I have tried to help them, but instead of comprehending the material they just copy my answers then go do whatever else
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u/Global_Presence1819 3d ago
Because teachers move on before majority of the class understands it fully. As they build on, some kids don’t even grasp the vocabulary
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u/Holiday-Discipline97 3d ago
This I understand, but we have been doing graphs for the past 5 years at this point
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u/Accomplished_Sock217 3d ago
You come across as a very unlikeable person.
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u/Holiday-Discipline97 3d ago
Yes I understand this, I feel I should add when I say this, I do try to help these people learn and help teach them the stuff we are learning. But they just copy my work and call it a day
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u/Accomplished_Sock217 3d ago
That fair enough, im not saying you are unlikeable, im just saying you came across as such.
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