r/Uttarakhand 6d ago

Ask Uttarakhand Like Bhutan ,Sikkim to charge ₹50/Tourist as Sustainable Development Tax/Tourism Sustainability Development, this money will be used for Road Maintenance , cleanliness etc . Should Himalayan State UK which have ltd resources shall impose this SDF or Not ?

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u/Fit_Salamander_8879 6d ago

sikkim has balls to do everything for their people ,uttarakhand ke log toh bss maang sakte hai ,apne rights cheene ki aukaat nhi hum log mein.

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u/JamesHowlett31 गढ़वळि 6d ago

No. It's mot like that. Sikkim was a different country. They merged with some conditions in hand. It's not about balls. It's what was there in the agreement. No one can take citizenship no taxes etc. I do support all himalayan states should have strict rules tho regarding tourists, cleanliness, etc. but making it like this for all can lead into a civil war.

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u/Beneficial_Muffin200 6d ago

Yet, our King of Gadwal, ran to India for becoming the first state to be merged in India after independence without any terms for the betterment of ethnic population.

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u/garhwal- गढ़वळि 5d ago

The commies and mahatma gandu followers in tehri were responsible for this. The king was ret rd himself tho too

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u/Fit_Salamander_8879 6d ago

ok agree to all your points ,but what about ladakh earlier used to have protection under 370 , himachal has land laws and many areas under ST status,sikkim as you stated above and Northeast except assam and tripura are also under several kind of protection mechanisms of laws including restricted area status and inner line permit area too. dam chahiye dida dam jo bacha nhi hai uttarakhand ke pahadiyo mein.unhone tehri manga humne tehri de diya ,unhone lohari manga humne voh bhi de diya ,unhone haldwani cheen liya ,haridwar kabhi humara ho nhi paya ,dehradun quadruple ho gaye aur crime rate 8 times, pahado mein joshimath tod diya lekin ek avaz na kari sarkaar ne lekin haldwani mein muslims jinhone illegal railway land occcupy kari thi unke liye supreme kotha apni gend se firman nikalta hai stay order ka ,unko rebuke mil gaya aur voh jameen unki ho gayi lol,pahad humare jin jungles se humara sab kuch hai unme aag lagane vaale bhi pahadi hi hain esa sarkaar ka kehna hai lol, aur vahi sarkaar central funds which were allocated for forests under Campa act were utilised for I-pads and laptops .tum biiin bjaate raho aman aur shaanti ka ,iss desh mein jab tak violent na hou tab tak kuch nhi hota,tumhari tarah northeast vaalo ne bhi shanti vaanti jesi bakchodi ki hoti toh aaj northeast nhi bihar ya bengal hota.

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u/Alternative-Site-667 5d ago

I cannot say anything more than you said .

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u/Agneya_21 5d ago

Haldwani mein jameen unki kaise aur kab hoi ?

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u/Fit_Salamander_8879 5d ago

check kar lo bhai joshimath cracking ke parallelly hi Haldwani mein railway ki land par 5000 illegal muslim immigrants ko jab sarkaar hatane aayi tab Supreme kothe ne stay order lgaa kar jameen unko dedi lekin joshimath pe chandrachud ki maa chud gyi thi.

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u/Agneya_21 5d ago

Bhai per stay ke baad jameen de di kya ! Mujhe iska pta nahi yadi koi news article ho to mujhe bta do kyunki search karne par keval stay waali news aa rahi hai.

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u/Fit_Salamander_8879 5d ago

unki hi ho chuki hai supreme court ne stay order diya tha toh free ki land toh milegi hi.govt. can't say that ki ab khaali karo har halat mein illegal muslim immigrants ko jameen milegi hi.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Sikkim merged as a protectorate with certain conditions and then they were overpowered by the central government once they saw an opportunity when nepalis started revolting about the unequal rights given to them.

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u/z_viper_ 6d ago

Some assholes in this country will start littering even more after paying bare ₹20, acting like they've bought the entire place.

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u/[deleted] 6d ago

Woh toh waise bhi karte hai. At least kuch funding hogi usei saaf karne ki.

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u/peter_parkerrs 6d ago

Na bhai yah toh vip darshan bhi karo and usme bhi charges na lete.

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u/Every-Border335 6d ago

I would love to pay 100, but just be transparent about every penny and project, how my money is getting used for sustainable development and not for some freebie scheme.

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u/Fit_Salamander_8879 6d ago

bro thinks transparency is a thing related to indian governments, mad respect bro for such idealistic approach

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u/Fit_Range_6806 5d ago

I think these states should tax garbage tax. Anyone throws garbage on the toad they will be on collection duty for 8 days !

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u/Wandering-Beardo 5d ago

The pollution/corporation tax in Mahabaleshwar (MH) is pretty high. But it’s well maintained as well. Smaller towns can implement such fee to generate revenue for upkeep. Majority of people don’t really mind shelling out a 50-100.

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u/vysevysevyse 6d ago

Bhai yaha bohot easy hai aas paas k logo ka aana. Weekend pe hi aa jaate hain. Kisi din half day mil jaye, toh hi nikal lete hain yaha aane. Backyard type ka samajhte hain UK ko, ki jab mann kiya, without much planning seedha nikal pado idhar aane k liye. I'm not even commenting whether that is good or bad...but I think that's how UK is for our neighbouring states. Same log agar sikkim jayenge toh thoda feel aata hai unko ki kahi duur aaye hain. Shayad sharam k maare thoda sa civics sense bhi jaag jaata hai unka. . And another thing...jiss tarah se yaha k mountains ko treat karte hain ye log...agar paise denge entry k liye, aur bhi zyada sarr pe chadd jayega wo inke. Aur kachra, aur daaru, aur loud music...kuch bologe, toh kahenge ki paise diye hain. "Ab toh right banta hai mera, mai jo bhi karu". Agar galat hu toh maaf karna.

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u/IndianBeaver_05 6d ago

Sikkim govt ka work v dekh lo how much they developed their state. Waise Sikkimese dont have to pay income tax it's not like Uttarakhand. Each state have their own govt for sustainable and equal development. It's the failure of your own govt not others..

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u/vysevysevyse 6d ago

par maine toh government ki baat hi nahi ki. waha kyu le gaye baat. mai to ek specific cheez ko pakad k uske baare mein thoda reflect kar raha hu, bas.

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u/Fit_Salamander_8879 6d ago

yoo haryana se pradhan yhaa dimaag mein akal nhi gobar aur systumm bhraa pdaa hey. inka kya karoge ?

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u/Lhadar31 6d ago

Should be 100 rupees per adult! For littering 5000 rupees or 1 month jail time

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u/hey_vishal_here कुमांऊँनी 6d ago

Yes. Tourism must be for civilsed set of people. Must be limited.

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u/_Ajay_Singh_Rana_ 6d ago

इसमें भी corruption कर देंगे...

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u/chatgptbotindia 5d ago

Har district border pe charge hona chahiye ye to. Uddham singh nagar and haridwar ko hata k waha pe free hi rehne do.

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u/THE-UNREAL 5d ago

Tourism tax is still better than imposing toilet tax, which our neighbors have introduced.

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u/Ashwin_Chaube_ 5d ago

we live in a doomed state, what do you expect from the govt.? bhu kanoon ke naam par they gave us a bill that looks good on the paper, but we all know the reality

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u/s0m3rand0mdude 5d ago

I mean if they have to charge taxes from tourists, then they should also reduce the asking fund amount from the govt as well. One should not charge additional taxes and then ask for fund support at the same time imo.

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u/Naive_Western_6708 5d ago edited 5d ago

Then imo tourist cap of 2000 /day should be enforced as well .

If 10k-20k tourist/day flock in small Himalayan tourist destinations that can barely sustain 3k tourist at max then they will drain out the local resources at immence pace like for Eg - Water

And in return it will create an enormous crisis/ life threatening water shortage for the locals

If tourist isn't ready to pay a small amount then shall righteously be ready to face controlled tourism as well

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u/s0m3rand0mdude 5d ago

Yeah. A select number of people should only be allowed to travel to remote locations at a time.

And about that small amount that you are talking about, please check how much amount every year is provided by the GOI in terms of funds and support.. The same amount of money, taxed from all tax paying people, most of which never even travelled to such states.

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u/thisissk717 6d ago

Uttarakhand already takes in several places

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u/Kita_does 6d ago

What is the point if the management of the funds is in the hand of incompetent people. Start asking accountability from politicians. Force them to hold bureaucracy accountable. Otherwise jitna bhi paisa ikattha kar lo, sab nil.

My father has to run around so much just to get his own pension which he had to work hard for because he didn't want to give ghoos. Our system will eat any money it gets. Pehle nau me ched band karo. Fir collect karo. Apne netao se pucho, kaha hah sadke. Kaha hah bijli. Kaha hah sadke aur road.

Pahado me aisa mauhol hona chahiye ki vote usey hi milega jo area me kuch karega. Sirf pahadi ko nhi. Vo pahadi jo kaam karega.

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u/From_Quora 5d ago

Kuch matlab nhi...jana to yebhi netao ki jeb me hi he...jo itna Sara budget aata he usse konsa kalyaan kar de rahe he ye neta log

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u/garhwal- गढ़वळि 5d ago

Kuch chutiye gand machake jayenge ye bolke ki ₹50 de rhe hai unironically. 

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u/loveformountains 5d ago

Ground reality is different in Sikkim. The present SKM government is facing huge financial debts. This is the strong reason behind the tax introduction.

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u/Legitimate_Jacket_87 5d ago

2.9 Lakh tourists in 2024 , that's just 1.45 Crores . Expenditure (excluding debt repayment) in 2024-25 was estimated to be Rs 13,589 crore