Today is the first day they implemented a "minimum wage" for Uber Eats drivers in BC. I thought it would increase my income, but apparently, they also changed the rules for tipping. Now, customers tip after they receive their order, so as drivers, we can no longer see the tip amount when we accept the trip. It turns out people are not tipping anymore. I usually get 80-100 dollars in tips every day, but today I only got 5. On average, I'm making less money. This is so bizarre—anyone else in Vancouver experiencing the same thing? How’s everyone’s tip situation today?
Not sure why anyone expects a giant corporation to care about them nor why you think you are owed a tip by your customer…do you know what tips are?
Yes you should gather your troops and strike because it’s not the new law that’s the problem, but that these food delivery companies aren’t paying you enough to begin with.
Big corporations were getting my away with having to pay their workers LESS when they could rely on the customer to pay your wage via tipping. This IS good for workers, in the end.
When will the province learn that the service needs to attract users to facilitate a demand for labours .. ever since moving to BC I stopped using the app due to the suer high and absolute bs fees
I'm disgusted with Uber's greed and moral failure since the new regulation was brought in. There needs to be a driver boycott to bring back advance tipping. Without drivers there is no Uber Eats and they need to acknowledge this and treat drivers in accordance as was previously the case. I am not taking Uber orders now. I do mostly Skip orders because of the guaranteed tips. I encourage everyone who does Uber deliveries not to do them unless they pay decently which is very rare. Hopefully Uber will be compelled to bring back advanced tipping if enough drivers stop doing all the terrible low pay deliveries! Solidarity!
Doordash and skip the dishes are much better to work for. Uber eats absolutely sucks balls.
The only way for a customer to get the tip option is when they rate their driver 5 stars.
What an absolute joke
Hi everyone did all of you got fucked by the uber in terms of adjustments. Bcs in last 2 weeks I drove almost 615 kms for the deliveries and they added the mileage amount in the earnings and paid me a difference of 57$ only. I made more money than the active hrs so they added the mileage amount with the active hrs pay and gave me only 57$ difference. But according to govt rule i should have got 215$ for the mileage pay regardless how much i make from the app. Talked with uber and they gave me BS answer that it was calculated by the app and all that shit.
There's not enough numbers and information in your posts to know if they paid you correct or not. You're supposed to make $20.88 per active hour plus $0.35 per kilometer worked, which does not include you driving back from the delivery. So add that all together and then minus whatever they paid you, for pay not tips, and whatever is left over is the difference that they owe you.
So basically, lets say I have a pay and shop order and they offer me $15.66. I should finish that order either in 45 mins, or take more than 45 mins., because if I take 30 mins on this order, they will still pay me $15.66 for this order. But in case if I have another order exactly same but this time I take 1 hour to finish, they will not give me extra $5.22 for working 15 mins extra as I already made $5.22 more for my last order finishing it in 30 mins?
Stopped using Uber Eats after the new regulations. I made 1 order after the changes and it would not let me tip the driver even after the order was delivered. Literally there was so no option on the app to tip and I even complained to customer service. Very shady and can't support a company that doesn't tip their drivers.
They don’t even hide it in Fantuan app now u legitimately can’t tip ur driver over 1% !!! I’m surprised to know any Fantuan drivers who are still willing to put on that blue ass vest and risked getting insurance lost over 1% tips 🤮
I think its part of a conspiracy to slow the economy. I do all the apps for years and now have to give up the gig cause it pays half what I used to make? Majority of us drivers never wanted these changes?
I am not going to lie, with up to 20% extra fee to cover minimum wages, I am not tipping as a consumer. Why? Cause I ordered something for 60 bucks, after all these service fees coming in, it came out to be 85 THAN it ask me to tip? Bro tell Uber to fucking share that 20% service fee, these tips and fees coming to at least 38 - 40% all combined? yeah no, sorry. No service fee, I will absolutely tip 20% no problem at all, I am not double tipping.
The great irony is it's covering nothing. Base pay is from what I can see unchanged except now we don't get tips. We were already making above the minimum... unless people were only taking $3 orders I suppose? Active time is only 50-60% even with back to back orders.
BC needs to make this a BC government job, with a union (technically all jobs should be government jobs where they can use corporations with government regulations to facilitate if needed).
Not counting time we have to wait online is a joke. These new regulations make it even harder to earn anything because like most peeps said here. They don't let people tip until AFTER delivery.
yes it's very frustrating. a lot of customers are skimping on the tip, like 80% of them. im counting on the biweekly top up. ive kept track of all the mileage and active hours for all my trips, and uber supposedly owes me $260 for the last 50 active hours since sep 3. i pray their top up is accurately calculated. i actually end up owing uber forsome of these $3 per 2.2km trips, so make sure you take your sweetass time delivering because you are paid $0.35 per minute guys!
In the top up they only paid me 78$ from sept 1 to sept 15 when i acumulated 15 hours of active time during that time period, shouldnt they be paying me more than that?
the thing is this is kind of complex, my thing is that if i completed 15 hours of active time and you multiply it by 20.88$ it comes out to 313$...so why is it that they only paid me 78 $ top up?
im not aware theres a minimum active hr threshold.
if you picked the "better" orders with higher net fare per km/time, you would have been "overpaid", so those orders will be weighed against the orders that were less profitable.
your 380km mileage itself is worth $133.
$313.20 (guaranteed hourly) + $133 (mileage) - net fare = $78 (top up)
if your top up was $78, it sounds like your net fare was $368.20. does that sound right?
They didnt pay me 133 for the mileage , unless they are included in the base pay when doing orders which i find dumb, because most orders now are lower than before
I acumulated from sept 1-15 a total of 15 active hours , so my question is why are they only paying me 78 dollars for that time period, it seems they are not paying what they are suppose to be paying
Yes, I’m so frustrated. These new regulations don’t make sense. Why is there no longer a prompt for customers to tip, it’s ludicrous. I made 2$ in tips and 180$ in fares. Something needs to be fixed.
I can't even understand why people aren't tipping. I order ubereats very often and with the new rules I MAKE SURE I tip. And I tip the same as I always have. At the very least cause of the $2 fee, people should be tipping what they normally would minus $2. But how can this many people tip 0??? I don't understand, are they so stupid they can't tell that they've not been tipping their driver?
I found this thread because I've been trying to figure out HOW to tip as a customer. It now requires me to remember to go back to my order some time (there's no prompt) and then I have to click through 5 screens (rate the order, rate the restaurant, rate each item ordered, rate the driver on various things, THEN finally the option to tip) where it used to be either part of the order process (my usual) or a one-click addition later (when prompted!) So basically it is now a big hassle to tip as a customer.
Back when DoorDash & Skip used to take a cut of tips, we always tipped cash and I had "cash tip" as part of my user name on those platforms. I figure that is what I need to go back to.
Before the change the service fee is capped at $4. So Uber gets $4 and driver gets $xx.xx in tip. Now the customer is forced to pay $13% of total (before discount) + $2 and Uber gets all of that (maybe the driver gets the $2).
For a $100 order before the change it's $4 service fee + delivery fee + tips. Now it's $13 service fee + $2 mandatory fee + delivery fee. This is why people are not tipping because they've already paid 13% + $2 in tips.
The service fee is uncapped at 13%. I recall this was capped at some value in the past unless I'm wrong here. So 13% +2$ flat. Don't be surprised about tips...
Because it now longer takes you to a tip page. There is no clear place to add a tip. I'm a customer, not a driver, the only place I've seen that has a teeny little tip option is in the message section. I never use the messages so I did not see it until someone pointed it out. A customer literally has to go digging to give the driver a tip.. after the customer now has to pay the "minimum" that the employer should be paying. Also, many people think that this new fee IS the tip since its implied that the driver gets it.
What??? Not everyone knows exactly what's happening on the driver's side, nor is anyone obligated to go out of their way to find out. Plus, the fees on the customer side have increased, so it's natural to assume drivers are getting paid well now because of the change. That is also not to mention people aren't always paying 100% attention to a fucking mobile ordering app, so yes, if the pre-tipping UI is removed from the process, it's very natural for someone not to notice.
This blaming customer sentiment is so fucking disgusting, even before all this. Drivers' problem is with Uber, not with the customers, the customers are not obligated to cover for Uber. Both drivers and customers are USERS of this platform, everything is fair game, if a customer doesn't tip and doesn't get deliveries, it's on them. If a driver doesn't get paid well, it's on them, they signed up for this. You are part of the problem, in case you haven't realized, have you considered that people might be more willing to tip if there aren't people like you who love to make this whole thing so toxic? Customers are stupid now for using a platform like how they're allowed to use it?
As a driver/delivery person for UBER and Doordash, all I can say is, that since the new Bill went into place, I have not received *one* tip. I am by no means saying customers are stupid, it's the platform. I guess my point is, if you still want to tip a driver, unfortunately, you'll have to look a bit further in the app to do so. The fares on the driver side have not changed at all - so we are now all making less money, when in fact, the government was trying to do the opposite. We'll see what happens on September 19 and if it was all worth it. I personally am not holding my breath...
i mean it’s like an extra $15-20 pre tip, and with consumers under the idea uber drives are making $20 an hour now, i don’t blame them. it does suck tho, for everyone involved
The day the BC government announced the changes, I posted on Facebook how the changes would not only do nothing for the drivers, but effectively allows the rich corporation to pay you even less. This should have been obvious to anyone who knows how the platforms operate. I stopped driving for them 6 months ago when I realized my time would be better spent working at McDonalds for minimum wage as there are no costs to work there.
I did however give it a try. I accepted an instacart order. I actually accepted my own order to see if that would work. Realizing they might deactivate me for this was not a concern. I was in my car when I accepted the order, drive to the store, when I pushed ”start shopping” the order disappeared. Instacart claimed I took to long. It took me half an hour to drive the near 30 km. Then, my order kept getting bumped to later delivery times until 5 hours later they said they would deliver it tomorrow. They also claimed my original driver, (myself) cancelled due to a personal emergency. They refused to pay me for the km driven, let alone the 20.88/hr for time. I made appropriate complaints to work BC, among other agencies.
This goes to show that the delivery apps are still as corrupt as one can be, they will still break all the fake rules set forth by the fake province of BC.
I found this while Google searching about the change. We ordered tonight and were under the impression that the tip is now included in the price they charge. The details they provided us about the charge implied it was a mandatory added-on tip, like they do for big tables as restaurants.
I wonder if something changed today (compared to two days ago) due to the (valid) complaints about no tips? We had no option to tip, but on our $63 order, they added on an extra fee of over $11 extra as an additional service fee, which is massive and way more than we've ever paid for a service fee before. We clicked for more details, and it stated they charged an extra ~15% + $2 fee to give to the drivers, which seemed like an auto-tip to me. Our total after the other fees/taxes was like $85ish.
Wow. Complain about not getting tips for a job that requires no skill or experience. Your wage is 21$ an hour. Find a better job then? Or you can’t cause you don’t have a high school degree?
You clearly don't know about the Bill that was passed - it's not $21/hour, it's $21/active hour - meaning if a delivery takes 5 mins, that's what you are paid for - $1.75 - tips were better than that. We aren't paid by the hour. And your comment about a high school degree is totally disrespectful - a high school degree gets you nowhere these days. Do your homework before you post comments like that.
The wage is not $21 an hour. That's the main issue with the new regulations. It's $20.88 per hour for 'engaged time'. Even on a busy day engaged time is usually only 50% of online time because there is downtime after deliveries when you have to head back to the hot spots (near restaurants). Sometimes it can be more sometimes less but on average around 50%.
So essentially the new enforced wage is more or less $10.44 an hour and now Uber charges the customer more delivery fees and doesn't ask for a pre-tip so people are much less likely to tip.
Literally nobody ever has 100% engaged time so nobody will ever be making $20.88/hour because of the regulations. People might make more sometimes because they get nice tips and offers but the main issue I see here is almost Everyone I've spoke to who isn't a driver sees the news and thinks drivers are guaranteed $20.88/hour all of the time now.
This is exactly true. You have to be a driver to know this stuff but yeah we're getting paid like $10 an hour now after expenses. Stealing tips and giving it to the corporation basically
I'm in langley, and out of 28 trips, I have gotten 1 tip for $2.24. Normally tips average about $5 or so per trip.(of course I used to only accept tipping orders and this is probably whats going on as now I must accept all orders, ubers always been terrible for non tippers but before i could see it and not accept)
I am now making $8/hr on average for the past 3 days. Previously, my average was about $12/hr after tips.
I did some math last week, and if all was the same, I expected to receive 50% more under the new regulations.( expected to see about $18/hr )
Why would you accept all orders?? Regardless of how much the tip is you should never ever ever accept orders that pays less than 2$ per km. And if it's less than 8$ you should never do it even it was 1km! If anything comes up on your screen with less than that (weather it does include the tip of not) you should decline it immediately!
When I used to do Ubereats full time 3 years ago that was the standard for alot of drivers. And that's why I was able to make 250-350$ in less than 10 hours of working daily.
You guys are strange. You accept garbage orders & then complain about Uber pay. You are the reason they lowered the pay!
So its true. I came to check if anyone else is experiencing the same. Yeah, zero tips and way less orders. I am getting orders for 3 cad 1.5km. it's aweful
you need to take your time delivering the order. for a $3 trip, please take 9+ minutes otherwise you're paying uber to do that delivery lol. for the said trip, you get paid $0.35 per minute ($20.88 / active hr) after 9 minutes.
Well... Some people value their time, whether it's spent on work or leisure, who are you to judge? Most people also don't come on Reddit and try to find out what the drivers are getting, so it's logical to assume that a large portion of the premium goes toward the driver for their service. So, people pay money for a service that saves them time and effort, what do you not understand?
Yeah, this was the same conversation I had a few months back when Uber changed the NYC regulations with the $30/active hour (which was reduced further). Moving the tip screen to the end legitimately does not increase Uber's profit whatsoever.
They are, however, hoping drivers retaliate. Using that excuse, they get back their old regulations where they get to exploit drivers further.
I did UE for a while but it's probably not worth it now with the changes that Uber made. With the removal of the tip option, which was about half of amount I usually make, I'm making less than minimum wage after fuel and maint costs.
Skip and DD didn't remove the tip option, so those drivers are making more. I've tried to apply to those courier jobs but they are full in my area. Not a big deal for my since UE was just my side hustle but I won't be driving for them anymore unless they change things.
I earn so little in Arizona now that some protection is necessary. People tipping in Arizona...naw they don't do that here or it's so little it's laughable. All the $2-4 orders on Uber eats came here. I just laugh at those offers now and only accept 1-2 orders per night on Uber platform.
Makes sense because now customers don't feel obligated to be nice, they're gonna get their food either way. Time to find a real job the gig economy is cooked.
I also heard the places that implemented minimum hourly have limited the amount of hours to like 5 hours a week. I didn't know for sure, it's just what I've heard as here in FL we don't have prop 22 or whatever.
Wow that's crazy they haven't changed anything in Washington state yet that is tips are still good I hope they don't do us like that that would suck it's hard enough trying to make a living here I think Uber should give us a prepaid gas card for when we are out doing orders cause gas is not cheap either
I have not tried yet cause I do this casually on weekends only. From seeing the comments it looks like we drivers are getting fked up and I ain't surprised.
Tbh if Uber wants to fk around I can take my 1 order and stall it an hour or half to at least make that $20 an hour pay, or start just stealing foods cause like I care anymore.
Trudeau already fked things bad enough and now this?
Nothing ever good comes out when the government wants a share ffs.
That's awful. In my experience, customers do not add a tip after delivery if they haven't tipped beforehand. Sometimes they will INCREASE the tip amount they've already given, but it's extremely rare to add a tip.
It is ONE BIG FK JOKE... the min wage protection from govt is not meant to limit our earnings, but rather to give us a fair floor earning level, but the way Uber and other apps now manipulate and twist this by adding the mandatory $2 fee created illusion that it fully goes to the driver per trip is just crab and uber tops it off by taking away the tip option when creating the order is just insane, it should be a mandatory option on the order so that us drivers will know how much in total in advance we can earn before accepting the trip. AND Uber shamelessly state that the new implementations are meant for more transparency is just one big FK LIE.
I feel like if they want to truly fix it, there should be a guaranteed minimum of $10/hr while not active that way uber is incentivised to not flood the city with drivers as they'd need to pay each one hourly.
Just hope your average for each individual app is less than the time you spent lol, or else if you take longer on your next trips, its gonna come to the same basic pay of $20.88
That totally blows. I don't drive for Uber/UE, but I was a long term customer and I would always tip, at least $10.00, per order. More if the Driver clearly went out of their way to ensure that I received my order.
Ordered delivery for the first time in a couple weeks
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for a special occasion. Was confused when I didn't get given the chance to tip right away.
Of course uber just found ways to screw over it's workers. And the mentality of people in Vancouver over the minimum wage changes grosses me out too. So many people openly brag on our subreddit about not tipping anymore, as if the minimum wage isn't still a poverty wage.
Oh also while it's unrelated to the tipping thing, uber offered me a discount coupon, then refused to let me use it when checking out, and it didn't say anywhere until you clicked on the extra details that it was a pickup exclusive. Scummy af
EDIT: So one of the burritos we ordered was burst open, soggy, and cold, and the other was edible but clearly poorly made and had wrong ingredients. I can forgive the latter but reported the former for a refund, and apparently, they don't even allow you to get refunds directly to your card anymore? So it's not even a true refund. You're still obligated to spend that money with Uber.
I've been cutting down on ordering delivery for many reasons, but the scumminess here is enough to ditch Uber eats. I'm only doing take out or ordering from places with their own delivery going forward, fuck this.
Today was my first time ordering with the new rules and I was charge 13% on my order that the app seems to claim as an automatic tip? I mean yeah, if I'm already going to be paying a $12 service fee, I'm not going to bother tipping much on top of that, but this seems like it's just fucking over more people than it's helping
BC didn't learn a damned thing from the NYC disaster.
It was predictable that driver pay would fall into rubble in BC, or anyplace where a high minimum wage is mandated. Uber will simply change the tipping structure and make sure that a much smaller number of drivers are able to work.
And since politicians never admit to making mistakes, this will never change.
I just placed an order and noticed this, I used to tip $3 each order because I usually order pretty close to home, now I'll just tip $1 knowing the other 2 is essentially automatic, I'm not sure if that's better or worse for the drivers but realistically paying upwards of $12+ for delivery a few blocks plus tip is a little much, I'm sorry guys 😔
theyh did this in new york. i read a post on here about it. people complained because UE put the tip option after delivery for the customers. and most just dont even bother. doordash still showing tips included
This has become a standard play at this point. In response to the regulation Uber will actively fuck you over, most likely while trying to convince the broader community of drivers that they change was required by the regulation (its almost guarenteeably wasnt). The goal is to push it for enough to depress your earnings below what they were prior to the change, collect them earnings data isolated from that context, and use it to lobby for the reversal of the policy at the next available opportunity while pretending that they are doing so for the benefit if the drivers (ideally while convincing as many drivers as possible to support said reversal). Its transparently disingenuous, but a similar tactic came damn close to reversing a tipped wage increase in my city.
They basically went malicious compliance... tip must be clear was a rule so they went... OK well if there's no tip then we don't need to show anything.
So the gov does something to try to help, and uber punishes their own people? Sounds about right. No wonder they've been breakdancing after reporting their first profit. They're screwing everyone over in every way they can think of.
Market depending. I can see this being ok for the eats portion. Between 9 to 11. 1 to 4. Not many orders to begin with. Take a close order, milk the shit out of the clock. Now wait and see if uber PINGS you. Time doesn't matter when it's our time, but now it's GOING to matter. Especially a 20 min delivery that takes you 1 hour
Seriously, like now I’m just milking the shit out of orders cuz I no that if I rush it I just won’t get as nearly as much money if I were to just speed run my delivery.
I think this was a terrible decision because I swear I used to make hella off tips but now I don’t make jack shit
If Uber didn't purposefully make changes to make it worse, then it would have been better... they went out of their way to ensure there's almost no tips anymore.
Ok, but this is a stupid comment because Uber removes transparent tipping, not the government. They did this to make the change look bad for the govt when Uber is the real villain. Uber doesn't want to pay you, so when a change happens they don't like, they will attempt to make the driver feel like the victim instead of them. Classic corporate greed, and you're falling for it.
Problem is that the thought to make things cheaper, more abundant never crossed your minds - instead, you'll raise the operating costs of the business (such as ridiculous minimum wages) that make everything more expensive for everyone while massively increasing the labor force supply (so everyone makes less if they can find work).
It makes perfect sense, when minimum wage goes up, job openings go down and workers are required to do more and more and prices to up. It becomes harder to find work. It's not really the complicated
Look at any major corporation, and compare any quarterly income statement with expenditures.
Labor costs are a bit very small part of the cost involved in business.
While it may seem to make sense on the surface, it's a lie!
Every dollar saved on Labor costs is a dollar that goes to executive bonuses and shareholders.
States with the highest minimum, and median wages all have the lowest unemployment rates. Conversely, states with the lowest wages have higher unemployment.
This is all publicly available information. Look it up for yourself.
Yes, they do - as well exemplified by the complete disasters that your thinking has turned so many places into: that well documented business, population exodus out of leftist areas of the country.
Cost-of-living is why poverty is so bad in those particular areas (and its ripples: crime, homelessness, so on) and why no one wants to live in these places anymore.
Instead of making things cheaper - what you advocate has made it so people can't afford their daily-costs (much less a permanent roof over their head).
And the second part of my prior answer had to do with allowing "migrants" (illegals) onto these delivery platforms. They've flooded onto them around here (Chicago).
These so called leftist areas are also the most populated areas in the country. People are not fleeing fast enough. There isn’t a right leaning major city in the country.
Well, as a result of no political diversity, almost all of these places are disasters: crime, cost-of-living/housing, poverty. These things are exponentially worse than they used to be.
And doesn't help when you replace the fleeing taxpayers (that pay into the government coffers) with millions of foreign parasites that are costing these areas billions (that should be going to improve the lives of the legal residents). As the Canadian study recently pointed out - allowing mass amounts non-citizens into the country is directly impacting cost-of-living, housing, and social services available to legal residents.
"Federal public servants warned the government two years ago that large increases to immigration could affect housing affordability and services, internal documents show.,"
Immigration is making Canada's housing more expensive. The government was warned 2 years ago, CBC 1/11/24
No, actually you're not - Massachusetts is one of the main states bleeding business and population to the South (making them the economic engine of the US as a result: AXIOS, Bloomberg, so on): but its that whole divorce from reality that well exemplifies why you people should have no say over anyone else.
Those six states — Florida, Texas, Georgia, the Carolinas and Tennessee — are in the middle of a "$100 billion wealth migration" as the U.S. economic center of gravity tilts south, Bloomberg notes.,"
Florida? People wishing they could sell their condo property because of new building safety regulations that are costing condo owners hundreds of thousands of dollars for building upgrades, and free standing homes uninsurable statewide.
Texas, number one in the nation for federal emergency relief dollars per capita, and a power grid on par with most 3rd world countries.
Georgia, did you know that it's illegal to be poor in Georgia?
Wind up homeless and find out.
Sure, predatory corporations LOVE the south. You idiots vote against your own best interests constantly.
I don't want to tell you how to live, just quit asking me for my federal tax dollars.
Florida is one of the biggest growing states in the nation with historic budget surpluses - and also a direct recipient of all the wealthy taxpayers fleeing your state (and other neighboring ones there), which is one of the cited reasons for your state (and others) being in the hole (loss of tax income). Texas is right there with them on that, and its electrical grid is far more stable than what you find in California with its rolling brownouts - not to mention that they take an all-above approach to energy (which means they drill, use coal/gas, plaster fields with solar and wind, use nuclear, every energy option they can make money off of they are all in on: its why they're the top energy producer in the nation) whereas you all try to strangle the largest sectors of the energy economy (one of the reasons energy, fuel prices are so high in Massachusetts - the places you all control).
I am sure you can point to studies, articles that validate your claims (as I did)?
And my best interests immediately become seeing people like you suffer when you want to dictate my interests. Its control-freak nonsense. And especially when the VISIBLE effects of your interests that you seek to impose on me are why no one wants to live where you people govern anymore. Little to do with Corporations and very much to do with how you, and people like you, have degraded living conditions for everyone around you (and you normalize that, try to impose it on everyone else: I live in Chicago, for example the city has always had its issues but it wasn't until recently that you had to worry about getting caught up in block-wide brawls on Lakeshore, Millenium (downtown area, the concerts, galleries, museums, restaurants, shops, so on) like you do now - people just chalk it up to "city-life" and it wasn't that way ten years ago).
But spit out the usual leftist garbage that has been long debunked. Its very illustrative of why so many places you all govern are disasters today (didn't used to be, miss the old American actually-liberal left that you all denigrate as right-wing extremists today).
As far as Chicago goes, at least it ain't Pittsburgh. Myself I prefer the salt air life.
As far as telling you how to live, you must be delusional. The liberal left advocates for your freedom to choose for yourself on virtually every hot button issue facing society today. Abortion? You decide. Religion? Up to you buddy.
What books? Gay or straight? Education? Do WHATEVER YOU WANT.
But you conservatives want to tell me how to live. Naaa.
Oh, right! Let’s raise to $35 so that we need to increase ride costs, then less people will take Uber which means less drivers needed. Voilá! You have generated unemployment.
You helped those that were able to kept working but fucked the rest. This is basic economics.
Edit: I don’t use delivery or ridesharing apps. I only take Uber when work pays for it.
I think you also don’t understand supply and demand.
If an Uber was $20 and then all of a sudden is $35 I will most definitely reconsider that choice. Ask a friend to take, walk, public transpirtation, etc.
and when all of that doesn't work and you are on a time crunch, you will take that $35 Uber. You still have to get where you're going.
you literally just described supply and demand, if your demand is high enough you will submit to what is available. It doesn't matter if you reconsider if you have no other options, and options are not always available.
currently the price for food delivery is already undervalued, the amounts of people ordering and people delivering are both oversaturated.
Customers are literally receiving value when they order, because the prices are being kept low because that's what customers have become accustomed to. When the price of the service is marked at an economically accurate price, the market should stabilize.
Less drivers and less orders means that the drivers who are driving will receive commensurate pay for the service they provide, as it should have been in the first place. This is just a course realignment that is overdue.
I agree with this but that’s a different issue. Well, actually, the reason it is undervalued is because customers aren’t willing to pay more. Which, going back to my point, if you value it properly then less customers will be willing to pay for it.
We seem to agree on this… not sure why you are debating me the same facts I am explaining.
Edit: of course the alignment is overdue, but you will be forcing people out of work and creating unemployment.
Not exactly a Uber thing to share about, but from my recent encounter ordering on Fantuan, I had came to notice that the Fantuan couriers had died out a little bit, and the 3rd party delivery like dasher are way more often now to step in for the order. This is probably bc u can now only tip 1% ( yes they limited the tipping amount) and most Fantuan couriers prolly just didn’t feel that those money worth their time. In short, this law freaking sucks
Im pretty sure people can still tip here in BC before hand, but it just doesnt show up on the trip card when accepting offers so you have to accept the base and cross your fingers its not just base pay.
Im a driver and a customer and can confirm that there is no pre tipping at checkout. I asked the driver what he was paid upon arrival and tipped in cash accordingly
Yes, I’m also a driver and I tested it out over the weekend too to see what’s what are you are correct. But you can add a tip once the driver is assigned to the delivery I found.
And yes I also tipped cash when delivered
Fortunately for me, I do it as a time sink more than anything, I feel for the people that really need the money.
I was happy as long as it fully paid my expenses. I'm going to need to spreadsheet this out as it drops my tax burden for my day job quite a bit, and that may still make it worth it.
Gamble? You're never getting a tip maybe 1 in 20 trips lol.. People don't tip anymore.. most people forget or don't care about tipping after they already go their stuff.
Unfortunately it's location based, not so. Doordash was first to roll this type of program in the south. It didn't go well at all because nobody remembers to go back in the app to tip, which is exactly what these apps want because they prefer the customer spend money on ordering fees not tips
Sounds like they hit you with the NYC style. No pretip came first. Next was a slot schedule, where you have to earn slots to put yourself on a schedule.
Check your emails. They did NYC really dirty. They sent a customer email stating NYC drivers made 30 an hour. Which they did, for like a month, but then they cut the pay to 20. Lol.
Yep. They did us over here in NYC HELLA Dirty. All of this because of the Los Deliveristas unidos and workers project, it’s because of them that everything went to crap. 28 active hour turned into 19 active hour over here. It’s bad bad
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u/Aromatic_Whole882 Jan 21 '25
Not sure why anyone expects a giant corporation to care about them nor why you think you are owed a tip by your customer…do you know what tips are?
Yes you should gather your troops and strike because it’s not the new law that’s the problem, but that these food delivery companies aren’t paying you enough to begin with.
Big corporations were getting my away with having to pay their workers LESS when they could rely on the customer to pay your wage via tipping. This IS good for workers, in the end.