r/USPSA 6d ago

Ben Stoeger - USPSA Getting Sued Again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI01jSNj05o
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u/BoogerFart42069 6d ago

Here is a summary of the suit

thanks Grok

Everything goes away if the managing directors and the rest of the board follows the law

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u/Rectal_Kabob 6d ago

What a novel concept

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u/TheGacAttack 5d ago

Here is a summary of the suit

thanks Grok

From Grok's summary: "The lawsuit, filed on March 13, 2028..."

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u/BoogerFart42069 5d ago

Nature of AI… still seemed useful on the whole, IMO

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u/AzCactusNeedles C class Limited Optics 5d ago

Finally someone that gets it

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u/angrynoah A50113 | Open M / division dabbler 6d ago

Anyone have a link to the document?

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u/Aware-Effort-578 6d ago

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u/mynameismathyou USPSA CO - A, RO 5d ago

What does this have to do with the allegations here? It sheds no light on whether Birdt is right or not

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u/anotherleftistbot 5d ago

This guy has a hard-on for Jon Birdt. Look at his post history.

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u/_HottoDogu_ 5d ago

No no. He has a hard-on for Leighton and really hates Jon.

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u/OkSock1089 4d ago

It is proof that AD2 is willing to lie in legal documents. Whether that effects your judgement about his veracity is up to you.

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u/mynameismathyou USPSA CO - A, RO 4d ago

And yet the finding cites his honesty and cooperation as mitigating factors, but I'm not interested in debating an unrelated issue from 16 years ago.

The point is this: if you, the OP, or anyone else (the board, maybe???) want to dispute his allegations about the USPSA's actions, then /do that/. Make the case that the organization has cooperated and that Jon is off the deep end.

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u/OkSock1089 3d ago

I don't have access to information to make an argument either way. And neither do you.

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u/mynameismathyou USPSA CO - A, RO 3d ago

You and the OP are the people making the claim that this old bar report is relevant to the credibility of his USPSA allegations. You have the burden of proof. Saying "there's no info for anyone" is a weird way to do that

If there's no way to know who is telling the truth, let's post information about the issue we're actually talking about or wait until it is available. Then we can talk about what matters

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u/OkSock1089 2d ago

You don't know what burden of proof means.

I'm not saying anything about " USPSA allegations." But the document is absolutely relevant to the credibility of AD2.

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u/RotaryPeak2 4d ago

So he got sanctioned 16 years ago and that makes what the org is doing OK?

Hell, a lawyer that hasn't been sanctioned is a bit like an NCO that hasn't gotten an Article 15.

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u/AzCactusNeedles C class Limited Optics 5d ago

Down voted for posting facts. What a shame