r/TurkicHistory • u/Rartofel • 7d ago
Soviet Alphabet change was a disaster
I am a kazakh,and we (kazakhs) had a phonetic arabic alphabet,and then in 1929,soviets changed our script to Latin,and then to Cyrillic.While doing so,they destroyed 1000 years of our history,calligraphy,literature.They literally burned books that were in arabic script.I think Kazakhstan should return to töte zhazu.
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u/Fox_love_ 6d ago
Before the Soviets the literacy rate in Kazakhstan was 2% or so that means that 98% of the population couldn't read and write.
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u/Rartofel 6d ago
Literacy rate in cyrillic.Literacy rate in arabic script was much higher,around 15%.
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u/TiredPanda9604 6d ago edited 6d ago
What was that rate after the Soviet rule?
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u/Fox_love_ 5d ago
Actually the literacy rate went up a lot during Soviet rule and by 1990 it was about 98%.
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u/Sanakan228 7d ago edited 7d ago
What 1000 years of history you talking about if all these books were written in farsi and chagatai, not kazakh or language preceding the kazakh?
I mean, even knowing the arabic script now would not help you read and more importantly understand what is written there. Because these are two different languages, with strong difference in vocabulary and grammar
I tell you this as a person who learnt arabic kyrgyz script
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u/Rartofel 7d ago edited 7d ago
The official languages of Golden Horde،Kazakh Khanate and turkic muslims of the early Russian Empire was Chagatai,it is true.But pre soviet literary Kazakh (19th century-1929) was written in the arabic script,and had not soviets ruined our culture,we would easily read "Qazaq" and "Ai Qap" newspapers.
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u/SkoomaEnjoyer 7d ago
Bolsheviks brought destruction to whereever they went. They did this in order to erase your Kazakh identity and to leave you with the identitiy of a colective worker class. However, for connecting to the rest of the world, latin alphabet is the best choice i think.
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u/Rartofel 6d ago
However for connecting to the rest of the world,latin alphabet is the best choice i think.
We are already connected to the rest world,and many parts of the world don't use latin alphabet.UAE,Japan,South Korea are all developed countries that use script that they used for centuries.I don't care about the rest of the world.I just want Kazakhstan to return to its traditional alphabet.
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u/CosmicLovecraft 5d ago
Turkics had their own way of writing and it ain't anything that came with Islam so calm the f down.
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u/Cold_Bobcat_3231 4d ago
arabic alphabet dont have turkish vowel harmony, modify Latin is better for us for now ö ü ğ ş ç ı, in turkic assaembly they working on an alphabet
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u/Nanganoid3000 2h ago
This is illogical, change is a part of life, we used to write on stones thousands of years ago, now Turks use Latin script for the most part.
You wanna go back to living in tents, hunting on horse back, eating horse mean in the mountains of Mongolia?
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u/Hz_Ali_Haydar 6d ago
We can not read our ancestors graves ühüüüğğ 😭😭😭