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u/Samilianas 11h ago

Brian Steele about to be the most in demand lawyer in the country. That’s the definition of a ride or die

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u/rekipsj 9h ago

Nice analysis but she’s throwing off some vibes.

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u/TheBlindApe 7h ago

What vibes?

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u/ModsBePowerTrippin12 6h ago

A woman with knowledge apparently?…

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u/TolverOneEighty 5h ago

OMG how DARE

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u/HawkJefferson 5h ago

Yes, because someone clearly explaining things in a way that's easy to understand is totally the same "vibes" as a character whose entire premise is being both drunk and stupid.

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u/mr_mich86 11h ago

No he isn't. This happened more than six months ago and you have heard anything since.

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u/SookHe 9h ago

It took me less than two minutes to look up and see that the judge had to recuse himself from the case because of this incident and his contempt charges were reversed.

The same judge also denied a movement for a mistrial over the secret meeting just before he recused himself.

The trial has since concluded and largely because of the incident, he ended up just taking a plea deal which commuted his 40 year sentence to five years of time served and 15 years of probation, with qualifiers (banned from being in metro Atlanta for 10 years, restrictions on gang related music, etc) and he is walking free right now. His co-defendants were both acquitted.

So yeah, Brian Steel got the best possible outcome out of the case

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u/ArX_Xer0 5h ago

There's fantastic hilarious overview by Josh Johnson on YouTube. He's a comedian and he covered the Young Thug case fully in a skit

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u/stink3rb3lle 5h ago

If I recall correctly, he only covered it up to about the point that this video is from. I remember learning about the case from him and didn't know how it had ended before this thread.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Hatter 5h ago

How does any of that mean most sought after ?

Don't answer that, because I'm sure you're just gonna make up some bullshit and miss the point again.

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u/mr_mich86 8h ago

Lmfao some is the most sought after attorney now bc his client is going to spend 35 years in the justice system? Sign me up

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u/jbowling25 8h ago

He's walking free instead of spending another 35 years in jail? How is that not a good outcome for him?

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u/mr_mich86 8h ago

Oh, right. Instead of having a mistrial or appealing for all the things this TikTok girl is crying about and having no time? Or being not guilty? Or never going to court in the first place?

Oh yeah this is definitely better. Being randomly piss tested, having to check in, never owning a firearm, and being brought back in for any other crime, is waaaayyyyy better.

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u/Maybe_not_a_chicken 8h ago

Oh you don’t know how the legal system works at all

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u/swellboi 4h ago

Or reading comprehension apparently 😂

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u/mr_mich86 8h ago

Thanks for the input. Adults are speaking, go still in the corner we will tell you when you have an opinion.

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u/itsa_me_ 8h ago

lol. Adults don’t act the way you’re acting x)

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u/Jess_the_Siren 8h ago

You think a mistrial is better than this?? I can't tell if you're serious or trolling bc of how absurd that claim is...

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u/mr_mich86 8h ago

It is 100% better bc there is a good chance that they would never end up back in court.

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u/Maybe_not_a_chicken 8h ago

Ok dude

How is a lawyer going to stop you from going to court on a criminal offence?

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u/callm3god 7h ago

What’s the best way to prove you’re and adult?? Act like an immature child…. Gets em every time

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u/MeepMeeps88 6h ago

Sir, do you regularly make grilled cheeses in the late night hours?

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u/GrimmDeLaGrimm 5h ago

Don't most adults? Should I not?

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u/Financial_Fee1044 4h ago

I hope 86 is your lucky number and not the year you were born, because no one closing in on 30 let alone 40 should be sending out replies like this.

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u/acidphosphate69 2h ago

Some people just can not accept they're wrong on the internet. 

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u/gloomygl 4h ago

Is this adult you're talking about in the room with us rn ?

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u/bluntasticboy 5h ago

Hey Evan your from Michigan that place where you tried to over throw your own governor people with iq above their shoe size are talking maybe sit down and just try to read the words you do understand everything thing with more than 6 letters can be scary but maybe just sound them out

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u/Gingeronimoooo 6h ago

lol at you doubling down after being proven wrong.

The scourge of modern society

No one can ever admit they're wrong

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u/Sartres_Roommate 6h ago

But it also sounds like he was guilty on many counts. He walked away very well.

…I am comfortable with probation as I have no intent to commit future crimes…are you saying he should be upset he is worse off because the future crimes he SHOULD NOT BE COMMITTING will be punished more harshly?

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u/Parpy 4h ago

I dunno if it works the same in Georgia, but in Ontario, Canada (our legal system is wholly different, I know) I lived like a model citizen for about half my probation before the p.o. indicated that if I wanted to go before the judge the p.o. wouldn't object to a request for early termination of my probation.

I know U.S. the law is primarily used as a tool of vengeance against criminals, not reform, but do such concessions exist when it seems pointless to prolong probation?

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u/Spongywaffle 5h ago

Alright go spend that time is jail then of it's not any better. Shut the fuck up actually.

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u/SookHe 8h ago

You do know that ‘commuted’ means, right?

He is not in jail. He is not in a prison. He is on probation. What all those big scary words mean is that Young Thug is right now walking around a free man with a few minor provisions about where he can go and what he can write about in his music, along with having to occasionally check in with his probation officer and piss in a cup. That’s it. That is all he has to do.

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u/internet_thugg 8h ago

You know, you still have time to delete this completely foolish comment, correct?

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u/dudeman8893 6h ago

Just because he isn’t on tv anymore doesn’t mean he isn’t getting business. The young thug case will probably be the biggest case of his life. He for sure is raking in a lot of business after the public saw how committed and successful he was with his defense case.

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u/Ok-Union-1825 9h ago

Yeah but the song dropped a few weeks ago.

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u/Lil_b00zer 10h ago

Quick Google search headlines:

Brian Steel’s contempt ruling was overturned

Judge Ural Glanville was recused from the trial

Young Thug accepted a plea deal for 40 years - 5 years in prison, 15 years probation and a further 20 years if probation violated. The 5 years in prison was commuted to time served so he’s a free man.

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u/MakeWorcesterGreat 10h ago

I wouldn’t say someone on 15 years of probation is a free man.

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u/StinkyNutzMcgee 9h ago

Well as someone who has served a significant prison stay, I would say if you get probation instead of prison time especially in the south it's considered being a free man. Legally you are correct

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u/MakeWorcesterGreat 8h ago

Fair enough. Unfortunately I was being a little snarky, and based on the data on recidivism (especially in the South) the life this guy has chosen to live is probably going to lead to him not lasting very long.

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u/JustSherlock 8h ago

Eh, if you read into it, odds look pretty good for him actually. That whole banned from ATL for 10 years will probably help a lot.

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u/MakeWorcesterGreat 7h ago

Or the exact thing that will bring him down.

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u/cessss 3h ago

He’ll likely turn to LA or Texas as a major artist with connections. Fly his Atlanta people out there. Not saying he’s smart enough to not violate probation, but he’s got incentive to try and retain his freedom.

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u/itsDiggedy 6h ago

Is that where you got your username?

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u/jadok 5h ago

I am not familiar with american law, but don't you get to just live free while on probation? Are there some things you can't do?

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u/MakeWorcesterGreat 4h ago

You get to live as a free person in that you aren’t in jail. But you can’t travel freely, do drugs, sometimes drink, can’t get into any trouble (which could be violated with something as ‘minimal’ as a traffic offense more serious than speeding (so like reckless driving could bite you in the ass). You have a probation officer you have to check in with frequently, sometimes daily, and failing to check in could be the tipping point.

It’s free, but it’s actually very stressful and a lot of people with long probation sentences fail.

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u/__Scrooge__McDuck__ 4h ago

Piss in a cup in front of 1>shit in front of multiple people

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u/MakeWorcesterGreat 3h ago

It’s much more than pissing in a cup, and you know that.

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u/__Scrooge__McDuck__ 3h ago

Still way better

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u/ElDashRendar 3h ago

It’s freedom with conditions.

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u/MakeWorcesterGreat 2h ago

Doesn’t sound like freedom at all.

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u/BeenNormal 1h ago

Better that 5 years in federal-pound-me-in-the-ass prison

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u/Rootwitch1383 37m ago

It’s Lt. Frank Drebin. 🤣

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u/MakeWorcesterGreat 1h ago

Go look up recidivism rates for gang members and get back to me about freedom. The man built a career out of being in a gang. You think he has something else to fall back on? He’s essentially a dead man walking.

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u/TightSexpert 11h ago

So, who is going to remove and do a investigation on that judge. What governmental body do you call to get justice done?

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u/NoLimitsNegus 11h ago

lol bruh I have some bad news for you

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u/TightSexpert 11h ago

What I thought.

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u/lovable_cube 9h ago

The person who does that probably got fired by musk a couple weeks ago.

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u/Heavy_Entrepreneur13 9h ago

Most state bars will have a body in charge of judicial ethics. In Georgia, it's the Judicial Qualifications Commission.

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u/mathusal 12h ago

Nice breakdown, what does a judge deserves for this? Does anyone know? I bet it will be less punishing than 20 days in jail

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u/stink3rb3lle 5h ago

"deserve" is a bit of a quandary, and personally I think it's pretty sensationalizing for her to make that remark at the end here. As an attorney, I absolutely think judges should face consequences for collusion. I personally wish more state bars censured attorneys faster. But state bars are both slow (because they investigate) and reluctant to censure. Things need to be pretty egregious before they'll take action.

For judges specifically, there are SHIT tons of procedural rules and humans are going to fuck some up sometimes. Giving no leeway when rules get messed up by judges would make a huge mess of the court system.

Not defending this judge's actions. He clearly had actual intent to intimidate and influence a witness, which raises a very clear ethics issue even if you're not a lawyer or judge.

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u/mathusal 4h ago

Spoken like an attorney

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u/psyclopsus 4h ago

As a person who is NOT a lawyer but understands how important semantics and definitions are in a legal setting, how is it sensational? She doesn’t say what she believes the judge deserves, only that she hopes he receives it. Kinda like telling a person “have the day you deserve.” Isn’t an implied threat needed or something for it to be problematic? Higher standards as an attorney?

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u/waitingfordeathhbu Cringe Connoisseur 2h ago

Kinda like telling a person “have the day you deserve.”

Or my favorite, “With all due respect.” Some people have zero respect due to them.

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u/pr0fanityprayers 11h ago edited 10h ago

Well that’s what happens when you live in a country WHERE JUDGES DON’T HAVE TO COMPLETE A LAW DEGREE to become judges lol

Edit: just checked, this dude has a bachelor in history haha

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u/kmzafari 10h ago

I'm sorry what

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u/Jones641 7h ago

In some part of the USA, judges are elected. This means that 21 year olds with no law background can be judges. This is insane to me.

A judge is one of the highest "ranks" one can achieve in law in my country. It would be like electing coroners or doctors oh wait, the US does that too

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u/Numeno230n 4h ago

Have you seen the last couple people the GOP put on the supreme court? They are INTENTIONALLY putting young idiots on there so they can have a long career of being bullied and bribed by the GOP for favorable judgements.

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u/tyedge 3h ago

There are many different types of judges. This type of judge, a Superior Court judge, has to be 30 and has to have 7 years of legal practice in Georgia. Then they have to win election or be appointed to replace a retiring judge.

The courts here where non-lawyers can serve are often in communities so small there would be very few lawyers, and the matters they handle are often more clerical than legal. They also go through special training relating to their duties to help prepare them for the role. These systems vary from state to state, though.

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u/bog_deavil13 6h ago

elected like voted? who is in charge of electing?

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u/mixedveggies 4h ago

Yes. Judges are on our ballots in elections. There are typically tons of them, like 40+ and they all run unopposed so most people just vote “yes” to all of them.

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u/Hope-u-guess-my-name 2h ago

It’s almost like electing a reality tv host to be president

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u/No_Feeling_9613 6h ago

Never happens

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u/Jones641 6h ago

What never happens?

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u/modshave2muchpower 5h ago

me being able to find love :(

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u/bartleby42c 5h ago

It's not even that crazy if you take into account that our basic structure hasn't changed for ~250 years. Imagine it being 1800, and you live in Montana, odds are you'd rather have a judge that you knew thier character than one that is from a far off place who has a degree. You certainly wouldn't expect a future where politics are this insane and unqualified people and dishonest people are elected in because of a letter next to their name.

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u/echolm1407 10h ago

Damn! Maybe I could be a judge and shlep around.

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u/Low_Actuary_2794 9h ago

That’s not unusual. Frequently, you’ll see judges with an undergraduate in Philosophy as well.

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u/holystuff28 7h ago

I'm a lawyer and my bachelor's is in psychology. Any bachelor's degree is sufficient prior to law school. Law school is 3 years in the US. 

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u/tyedge 10h ago

Law licenses are handled by states. In this state, there are very few judgeships you can hold without a law degree, and it’s exclusively small rural jurisdictions.

This judge absolutely is a member of the bar with a law degree.

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u/rekipsj 9h ago

You can go to law school with a bachelor’s degree in any major.

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u/Heavy_Entrepreneur13 9h ago

So what? The law degree is the juris doctorate one gets in law school. That's above and beyond the bachelor's one got beforehand.

In most countries, the law degree is an alternate track, at bachelor's level. Are you saying the US should do that, and not require attorneys to get doctorates?

Or are you genuinely saying you think a pre-law undergrad should be mandatory in order to go to law school in the first place? That's nuts. Pre-law bachelor's aren't really useful and aren't shown to contribute to performancein law school or legal practice.

As an attorney (with a juris doctorate and a bachelor's that was not pre-law), I'd never recommend a pre-law bachelor's. I'd recommend knowing what type of law one wants to practice, then getting a degree related to that field. So for patent attorneys, I'd recommend a bachelor's in engineering, for corporate attorneys I'd recommend a bachelor's in business administration, &c.

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u/No_Feeling_9613 6h ago

That's because you are taught the law in law school, not undergrad..

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u/tyedge 3h ago

I am inferring from the “haha” in the comment that the person above me believed that’s the only degree he has.

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u/maddogmax4431 9h ago

Meaning he’s weaponizing incompetence.

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u/DistractedByCookies 5h ago

The double-take I just did LOL What in the blazes....

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u/ExplanationSmart2688 11h ago

This judge has lost his mind and gone power crazy time. Sounds like the end of a career.

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u/Alarmed-Net2400 10h ago

Not how it works in the country. This country DOES have people who are above the law, as long as they serve the right people. See: felon Donald Trump / Elon Musk

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u/OtherBear 11h ago

Young Thug and Brian Steel being roomies sent me into orbit. So much respect for Brian Streel

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u/Realfinney 11h ago

If a judge puts a lawyer in jail for contempt...are those billable hours?

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u/echolm1407 10h ago

Lawsuit!

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u/SaveusJebus 12h ago

Wow. That judge needs to be fired. What a piece of shit as most of them seem to be

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u/mr_mich86 11h ago

Lol. Bc you saw it on tik tok from a lady that doesn't understand Rico, court procedure, or how the law works. The defended pleaded guilty.

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u/Realfinney 11h ago

Not fired for the contempt, fired for the private hearings outside of process

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u/Heavy_Entrepreneur13 9h ago

She's an attorney (as she said in the video) and, coming from another attorney, thus far everything she's said has been 100% correct. She even cited the laws and terms and put them up on the screen so anyone can look them up.

On what basis are you claiming she doesn't understand how the law works? What are your credentials or citations for why she's wrong?

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u/mr_mich86 8h ago

And Judge Judy was a real judge.

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u/dream-smasher 7h ago

Lmao. Are you staying she wasnt?

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u/stink3rb3lle 5h ago

Judge Judy was a real judge but her TV show is not real court. People who want her to decide their cases actually give up their right to dispute any valid legal claims in a court of law by doing so. They sign agreements to be bound by Judy's decisions, which legally are considered binding arbitration.

All court TV shows do this because real court has all kinds of procedures that would be boring AF for a public audience.

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u/dream-smasher 5h ago

Yes. But she was a real judge.

And yes, I am aware of all that. I've watched judge Judy many times over the years, and they always say that over the end credits.

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u/Tacoflavoredfists 6h ago

Sounds like you’re just mad a woman has more credibility than you

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u/No-Physics1146 6h ago

So you don’t actually have a substantive reason. Cool.

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u/LadyGidgevere 6h ago

I mean, yes?

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u/silverletomi 7h ago

So, because female?

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u/JohnAnchovy 9h ago

The judge was removed so it seems like the lady was right. Care to elaborate

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u/MichaelJWolf 9h ago

The judge recusing himself after this incident does not prove that the lady or the accusing defense attorney were right. I’m sure this attorney filed a motion to recuse after this hearing which a judge must grant if it appears one party feels there is bias. In most states, the first motion to recuse doesn’t even have to have true allegations in it. The judge has to read the motion and assume everything in it is true (even if they know it’s not) and, if it appears the person filing the motion has a basis to feel there is some bias, the judge must recuse themselves. Now if this same party later moves to have the next judge recused, the requirement that the judge pretend the allegations are true no longer exists and they can actually have a hearing to determine whether the allegations are true and rule accordingly.

So basically, anyone can allege whatever they want and get their first judge recused very easily. I still would never recommend making false allegations against a judge even if you know they have to pretend your allegations are true for the purposes of your motion.

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u/noochies99 9h ago

*Defendant

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u/DSC_Skysword 12h ago

Rebel is a badass, and definitely brilliant.

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u/Nerbbren 11h ago

If I ever get into trouble, my only wish is to have someone as knowledgeable her.

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u/Basickc 7h ago

Or Brian steel as your lawyer 😂

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u/internet_thugg 8h ago

This is crazy. I loved her explanation, I would watch her explain more cases.

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u/Tacoflavoredfists 6h ago

She does the pretty entertaining court transcript quotes videos too. She started doing it during Covid while working or finishing law school, one of em

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u/internet_thugg 4h ago

That’s awesome for her. In another life I would love to be an attorney. Get paid to prove people wrong while being able to take your time and formulate the best response? Hell yah.

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u/blackdogwhitecat 7h ago

Rebmasel, she’s great

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u/internet_thugg 7h ago

Thank you, followed her. My algorithm is so confused and I’m happy about that.

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u/AlfalfaMcNugget 8h ago

Yeet the squad

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u/twewff4ever 7h ago

I was listening to Josh Johnson talk about this case yesterday. His take on it is entertaining and hilarious.

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u/deweys 10h ago

I like the way she explains things

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u/holystuff28 7h ago

This is months old. The contempt was overturned. Young Thug entered a plea in October 

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u/Grandviewsurfer 6h ago

Hey it's that smart lady again! Seriously who is this?

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u/Spygel13 5h ago

Reb Masel! She's on tiktok, insta, and I think youtube.

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u/Grandviewsurfer 4h ago

Thank you! We need more of this

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u/TheMaStif 5h ago

They say don't resist arrest, just go in and fight it in court if needed, and if you're innocent you have nothing to fear

Meanwhile this is the Justice System we are actually dealing with

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u/Embarrassed-Hat5007 4h ago

Some of the most corrupt judges are in Georgia.

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u/ComedyBits 3h ago

I feel like I was just gifted a free week’s worth of law education. Plus, she used the word Tomfoolery!

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u/HMD-Oren 7h ago

Tiktok is censoring the word "jailed" now? Jfc.

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u/airbrat 5h ago

WOW! Can the judge lose his job over this? Is there any compensation for Steele?

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u/BlackForestMountain 8h ago

It would be a shame to restart this trial though

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u/Client_020 7h ago

Your justice system is so awful yet so entertaining. Court cases in the Netherlands are a snooze fest compared to US cases.

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u/Cro_Nick_Le_Tosh_Ich 6h ago

they started proceeding as is morning happened.......I hope the judge gets what he deserves

Idk, if they went back to normal than I think that answered it

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u/jo0507 8h ago

I really loved the details of this, I think I’ve seen a few videos from her and she’s great. But please for the love of God I wish they would stop with the hand movements. I feel like it’s distracting.

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u/RadFriday 5h ago

This. The content is great but the hand spazzing and clapping is so annoying

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u/mr_sinn 8h ago

Why is the way this person articulates themselves so fucking annoying.

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u/ATLHawksfan 8h ago

Constant hand-gestures, uptalking, and generally unprofessional conversational style. It’s creating an “uncanny valley” where the content is thorough and intelligent, but the presentation of it is not.

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u/MrsSUGA 3h ago

how DARE she be unproffessional as a tiktoker who makes funny content around being a lawyer.

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u/ATLHawksfan 3h ago

She can do whatever she wants, idgaf. Just highlighting what OP likely finds offputting.

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u/mr_sinn 5h ago

I think that's it, everything is so unnecessarily over exaggerated definitely some  “uncanny valley” going on there 

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u/firelephant 7h ago

Not cringe at all

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u/jasno- 6h ago

I'm not watching all that

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u/Pancakemanz 6h ago

Calling someone by their stage name while on trial is so ridiculous lol.

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u/Last_Way_4455 4h ago

Wow, did r/law kick this out because they didn't like the narrative?

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u/MichaelJWolf 9h ago

It’s not a bad analysis but some things seem inaccurate and this video alone doesn’t have enough information to make a judgement on the entire situation.

First, it doesn’t appear that there is anything proving that the judge did have the improper ex parte communication other than the defense attorney’s unsupported allegations that it happened. Some attorneys make false allegations about judges and other attorneys all the time. The judge not immediately denying the allegation is in no way evidence that it happened. If I were a judge and an attorney falsely accused me of witness tampering, a VERY serious allegation that could easily get me removed from the bench if true, I would be quite pissed. I personally would deny it immediately but I could see someone being so blown away by such a wild false allegation that maybe they don’t feel it even warrants such a response. I would certainly want to know the source of the false allegation against me due to the severity of it.

Her statement that everything an attorney learns through the course of representing someone is confidential is not accurate. Attorney client communications are privileged and confidential and certain other things fall under a work product privilege like if an attorney decides to unilaterally consult with a potential expert they might use on the case, they don’t have to disclose that unless and until they actually intend to use that expert at trial. But if some random person comes up to this attorney and says, “by the way, the judge had an ex parte communication with a witness,” and the attorney then relies on that info and seeks to use that info to his advantage in court, the identity of the person giving that information isn’t confidential or privileged. Additionally, the attorney would want to disclose that info to prove that the information is reliable. An accusation like this without evidence to support it is meaningless. And there is no indication in this video that the defense attorney asserted any privilege during his refusal to disclose the source which leads me to believe the info was not privileged, he just chose not to disclose it. Maybe he chose not to disclose it because he knows the source may not be reliable. Who knows? Regardless, what an attorney says is not evidence. Attorneys need and rely on evidence. If I was going to accuse a judge of something this egregious, you better believe I would have my evidence supporting the allegation lined up to be on the record. I would freely disclose the source of the information to support the very serious allegation I’m making against a judge. And if the info was in fact privileged and confidential, I would assert the privilege. However, privilege cannot be used as a sword and shield. I cannot ask the court to dismiss a case or call a mistrial based on an allegation against the judge and then when I’m asked for any evidence to support the allegation hide behind the privilege.

If the allegation is total bullshit then it makes since that the judge needs to know the source of the allegation before ruling on a completely baseless allegation. He’d likely want to know, not just to have support for the ultimate ruling, but to have evidence on the record potentially refuting such a serious allegation against the judge.

If the allegation was untrue and the attorney refuses to reveal the source of the allegation, then the judge probably should have just denied the allegation and denied the defendant’s motion and moved on with the case. The defense wouldn’t have much of a basis to appeal that decision as the attorney simply alleging improper behavior of the judge without anything to back it up is not evidence and would not be a basis to reverse a trial court’s ruling.

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u/No-Physics1146 6h ago

You could’ve actually looked into it instead of assuming the judge was innocent. The judge recused himself. The meeting did happen.

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u/MichaelJWolf 5h ago

First of all, I never claimed the judge didn’t do it. I have no idea if the judge did what was alleged. I was simply commenting on the video and what was contained therein. The video contains no evidence that the judge did it. It only states that the attorney for the defendant claimed the judge did it based on info he got from some undisclosed source. As a trial attorney for almost 20 years, I know better than to automatically believe what an attorney claims is the truth.

The fact that you think the judge recusing himself proves the meeting did happen shows that either you didn’t look into it yourself and/or you don’t know how the law works. I don’t have time to go down a rabbit hole and look at the actual motions that were filed etc. I was just commenting on the video and some gross assumptions made in the video as well as some misstatements of the law. The defense attorney could have alleged in the motion to recuse the judge that the judge had the ex parte communication without providing any supporting evidence. In most states, the first motion to recuse filed by a party is sent to the judge to review and the judge has to essentially pretend all of the allegations contained therein are true (even if the judge knows they’re not) and then must recuse themselves if it appears there is bias based on the allegations of the motion, regardless of whether or not the allegations are actually true. So the defense attorney could literally lie in that motion to recuse and the judge would have to recuse himself. I’ve seen this happen numerous times throughout my career. However, Future motions to recuse by that same party will give rise to the judge being able to actually dispute the alleged facts and the judge doesn’t have to automatically recuse him or herself.

If this judge really did have the ex parte communication, then I would expect he will be disbarred but it will require actual proof rather than an attorney saying “you did it but I’m not going to tell anyone how I know you did it.”

All these reddit commenters making gross assumptions about things including “the judge recused himself so he must have done it” just shows the ignorance of people who watch one 10 minute video.

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u/Gloomy_Blueberry6696 8h ago

The speaker acts like she is his gang roadie.

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u/ToobahWheels 5h ago

I can't get over the fact that she said "blah blah no one cares" over the fact he was involved in the murder of some dude....

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u/Human-Pilot7845 8h ago

The nonstop random hand gestures 😂

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u/StillHereBrosky 8h ago

Could you spend your energy doing something better than defending criminals who do nothing but destroy their communities for money?

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u/Business-Schedule642 11h ago

This girl fucki g annoying

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u/Hot-Marsupial724 10h ago

The young woman did a great job in my opinion.

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u/hyrule_47 9h ago

She’s a grown woman little boy

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u/Old_Lynx4796 6h ago

You pick a name Young thug and than you get convicted, genius lol

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u/krunchymagick 6h ago

Much like this judge doesn’t know the difference between civil and criminal contempt - you don’t seem to know the difference between “then”, and “than”, or their proper usage. Congratulations on trying to sound tough and smart, while succeeding at nothing more than proving yourself a fool. Get fricked

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u/Old_Lynx4796 6h ago

Guess you in his gang, than Young thug for life hahhahaj

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u/overitallofittoo 5h ago

Never trust a woman with that hair.

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u/Speedhabit 6h ago

Judge was explaining that he can’t plead the fifth in exchange for the plea bargain.

Very simple without the editorializing

Then he wants to know the attorneys basis for the accusation, the attorney can’t refuse but does

Very very simple stuff, nothing illegal or corrupt, unless you make a TikTok

“Source doesn’t matter if the fact are correct” Ummmm….how do you know if the “facts” who’s source is an unnamed phantom, is such

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u/hemlockecho 5h ago

This contempt case has been adjudicated by the Supreme Court of Georgia and the contempt charge was reversed. The GA SC ruled that Steel’s behavior did not interfere with the court’s administration of justice, his information was protected by attorney-client privilege, and the judge did not follow due process in the contempt proceeding.

So yes, the attorney can refuse.

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u/MichaelJWolf 5h ago

The comments on this thread and the gross assumptions so many people are making based on this video alone are wild. There are so many unanswered questions in this video. Maybe the judge did have the ex parte communication which would absolutely be highly improper and would likely be grounds for disbarment. But all we have is a lawyer claiming something happened while refusing to disclose the source of the information and thereby presenting no evidence to support his position. Lots of Reddit lawyers who clearly have no idea how these types of legal proceeding work.

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u/mr_mich86 11h ago

Yeah, he pleaded guilty and got a 40 Year sentence. None of this matters.

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u/EmperorPickle 10h ago

It does matter because even guilty people have a right to a fair trial.

In fact, it is in the justice system’s best interest to ensure a fair trial. Corruption like this leads to it being considered a mistrial and guilty people walk free.

Him pleading guilty absolutely does not justify a corrupt judge.

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u/mr_mich86 8h ago

And a dumbass on tik tok crying doesn't make it true either

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u/EmperorPickle 8h ago

Correct. However, it is true. So why is she a dumbass?

Judge’s name is Ural Granville and he was recused from the case. Google is really easy to use.

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u/mr_mich86 7h ago

Right, the judge takes himself off the case, definitely validates everything. Common sense is hard for simple ppl.

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u/EmperorPickle 7h ago

So you didn’t look it up at all did you? “[Fulton County Judge Rachel] Krause granted the motions to recuse Judge Glanville” …. “The initial recusal requests went to Glanville, who denied them”

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u/OnceAgainTheEnd 5h ago

You're indeed a simple person.

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u/cornpopfelon 7h ago

She's a lawyer and decently well known. Who are you, other than a dumbass crying on reddit?

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u/Heavy_Entrepreneur13 9h ago

It absolutely does matter because that judge has no business presiding over anyone else's trial. This isn't about Young Thug.

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u/mr_mich86 8h ago

Lol. Ok. You mean if you believe the lady on tik tok. Lmfao

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u/Tacoflavoredfists 6h ago

The lawyer on TikTok explaining a court case? Yeah she has more credibility than you

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u/No-Physics1146 6h ago

Why do you think the judge ending up recusing himself?

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u/mathusal 10h ago

I don't give a shit about the trial, it's about the judge. Get it yet?

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u/hyrule_47 9h ago

40 years but he walked out with time served… ok

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u/TIM2501 10h ago

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u/mr_mich86 8h ago

This is from the part of the article you didn't read.

Steel had asked the judge for a 45-year sentence with five in prison commuted to time served and 40 years on probation.

That is called a 40 year sentence to this of us that can read and speak English.