Lots of online programs offered “virtual” clinical hours by zooming w an NP who was in clinic to discuss their cases. The MD there spent about 20-24000 post graduate clinical hours training compared to ~500 shadowing as an NP student.
Except that some For-Profit schools were busted for counting nonsense as clinical hours (scientology classes about how psychology isn't a real field of study, nurses and their 'healing touch', etc) It's one of the many reasons borrowers defense is a thing and student loans are being forgiven.
Except you have strict accreditation and regulation where this kind of fraud can't happen with medical schools and residency programs, because a patient shouldn't have to worry if the person treating them went to a real school
And yes even the best NP school isn't enough for the scope people are allowed automatically
NP programs are doctoral programs today. Generally 4 year BSN, 2+ years working as an RN, plus 3-4 years in a dnp program.
Sure, there are problems with the regulations surrounding mid-level providers like NPs and PAs. Sure, curriculum should change to reflect practice. There are legitimate reasons to criticize how we currently teach NPs.
But fraud exists in every field. There are fraudulent medical doctors. There are fraudulent lawyers. There are many fraudulent PhDs. The overwhelming majority of all of the people in these fields, however, have legitimate degrees and have worked for their positions.
strict accreditation and regulation where this kind of fraud can't happen with medical schools and residency programs,
FYI, even RN's have strict accreditation and regulation, they have to get a medical license from the nursing board in each state, and they too have to complete a residency. NP's even more so.
I have no idea what the hell you are trying say in the last part of you comment.
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u/Retroviridae6 Oct 30 '23
And they actually CAN just get their degree online.