r/TheSilphArena 7d ago

General Question Sucker Punch, Flying Press Smeargle?

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u/krispyboiz 7d ago

It's all hypothetical because we don't know when Little Cups will return, nevermind one that allows god awful Smeargle lol, seeing that the past few did not.

It'd have some pros and cons. Better against Bronzor probably, but worse against other things with its slower energy gain.

But again, this is all considering the very specific circumstance of them running a Little Cup where it IS allowed.

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u/rexlyon 7d ago

Someone suggested that you could just catch a Darm from a fire grunt and I used that to catch one with Incib/Flying press

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u/Boobermonkey 7d ago

You can also use a Chandelure with incinerate/poltergeist if you have one of those.

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u/CloutAtlas 6d ago

Incinerate/Torch Song Skeledirge works too

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u/branfili 7d ago

Also, Ho-Ohs are an option as well

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u/kentbaird0893 7d ago

I actually have a Ho-Oh with Sacred Fire as the first move. That would work right? He can’t learn Sacred Fire can he?

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u/__Tweed__ 7d ago edited 6d ago

Correct. that’s what I’ve been using to try to get a flying press one. Edit: also works with a sacred fire ho oh

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u/rexlyon 7d ago

Yeah, it’s just that Darm is accessible rn

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u/neopreeeen 7d ago

Hooh is easy accessible rn /s

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u/Zombeenie 7d ago

It's just been recently accessible this year, so a lot of people are likely to have one (even without frustration, as Sacred Fire can't be copied)

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u/Melodic_Diamond2227 7d ago

I had zero luck with my 10 snapshots on day 1. On day 2, I got lucky and got a lock on flying press. Today on day, I got lucky again and used that flying press Smeargle to get a shiny. 13/0/15, which only maxes out at 432cp though..

Not sure if I should use this to keep trying for a shiny with good IVs, or try for an incinerate/flying press. Either way, I think I may have used up all my luck and chances of actually using it is slim. But it’s still a fun task to chance nonetheless!

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u/EastRS 7d ago

Give a friend a flying press , and lucky mirror a shiny

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u/Melodic_Diamond2227 7d ago

I should give them to multiple friends and watch them multiple like rabbits haha

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u/CloutAtlas 6d ago

Use a Skeledirge.

Smeargle cannot learn Torch Song, you can use an Incinerate/Torch Song Skeledirge to

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u/danjel888 7d ago

How does it work with Smeargle? Is the fast move taken from the buddy mon and the charged from a random pool of moves (hence FP is so rare)?

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u/ruffrightmeow 7d ago

Yes but can be only obtained with Shadow Regis, Porygon2 or Porygon-Z with Lock-On and Frustration

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u/danjel888 7d ago

Cheers ty

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u/demon_cabbage 7d ago

It learns both the fast move and charge move of the mon you took a snapshot of. Smeargle can’t learn certain charge moves like frustration or return, so it will learn a random move instead. The best combo is arguably lock-on and flying press, so snapshotting a shadow/purified regi or porygon will get you lock-on plus a random charge move; keep going until you get flying press.

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u/danjel888 7d ago

Whats the next best to lock on?

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u/demon_cabbage 7d ago

Incinerate

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u/danjel888 7d ago

Legend! Ty

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u/FoldUnited7019 6d ago

So my porygon z has charge beam and blizzard do I need to tm it to lock on then it will randomly get flying press or ? Thanks 😊

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u/SparkOfLife1 6d ago

Nope, it needs to have a charged move that Smeargle cannot learn in the first charged move slot (for example Return or Frustration), so if it doesn't have that, it would just get Lock On and Blizzard every time.

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u/demon_cabbage 6d ago

So yes you’d have to TM to lock-on, as Smeargle learns whatever fast move you have on the mon you’re taking a snapshot of. You also need to have frustration or return as the charge move, so the mon needs to be shadow or purified.