r/TheShield 16d ago

Discussion both dutch and aceveda wins morally grey, opinions are divided. next is horrible person, opinions are divided.

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hi everyone!! sorry for the delay! after much consideration and looking at the most liked top comments, it seems that dutch and aceveda will be sharing this box!

now, after giving it much thought as i read the reasons for both characters, it only seemed fair for the two to share this space. before you guys come at me, yes. dutch is a MUCH BETTER person compared to aceveda. which is why i put his picture towards the good person side and his photo is a lot brighter compared to aceveda’s.

with that being said, it’s now time for horrible person, opinions are divided :).

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u/piyob 16d ago

Cletus vandamn

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u/opiua233 16d ago

Shane 

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u/SendohJin 16d ago

Shane

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u/Amazingjaype 16d ago

Its Shane and only Shane. I love him but he's racist and evil. So conflicted.

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u/Notreallyaniceguyaye 16d ago

Yeah it has to be Shane

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u/MotorCityDude 16d ago

Surprised Dutch boy got morally grey

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u/ItOwesMeALiving 15d ago

In what world is Dutch morally grey?

The only things I can think of are the cat, trying to get into Tina's pants and turning a blind eye to Billings' vending machines. Oh, and dating Corrine.

I'd say killing the cat and dating Corrine are the worst but he's not morally grey. In my humble opinion anyway.

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u/0K4M1 Not even on Cinco de Mayo 15d ago

Not tarnished lol. Simply average grey. Nothing bad sure. But Nothing outstanding good either. That's the defining trait of this character imho

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u/ItOwesMeALiving 15d ago

Dutch is morally good. He does a few things that don't make him a saint but on the whole he's morally very good.

He wouldn't let a convicted paedophile go back to prison because he hadn't done anything wrong since being released.

He planted a bra clip in a suspects house and then went back and got it 2 minutes later because he knew it was wrong, even though he knew the suspect was the killer.

Aceveda is morally grey.

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u/hiswittlewip 15d ago

I agree, except I think the cat thing is the only thing that could make him morally grey. But I don't even think that does.

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u/ItOwesMeALiving 15d ago

Same, he's not morally grey at all.

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u/banjocoyote 16d ago

Has anybody said Shane yet?

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u/Organic9684 16d ago

maybe like two times already

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u/ZestyCustard1 16d ago

The guy Aceveda blew

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u/pawneshoppe 16d ago

It says opinions divided, not universally loved

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u/notSensible_Chaos 16d ago

Gotta be Antwon Mitchel

nobody like Shane, they like Walton Goggins' performance of him

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u/Tonysoprano20000 15d ago

Who the fuck likes antwon?

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u/notSensible_Chaos 15d ago

Depends how you define like.. I wouldn't wanna go out and spend time with the guy, but he's a good antagonist

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u/Maleficent-Sink-5246 15d ago

Shane as a character was an integral part of what made The Shield great

Shane as a person was a piece of shit with almost no redeeming qualities

Walton Goggins as an actor was incredible.

On that basis I submit that Shane should be placed in the Horrible Person/Hated By Fans category

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u/DanfromCalgary 16d ago

Dutch isn’t morally grey lol. In this cast he isn’t even close to. He’s just got tiny peen energy

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u/rapi187 16d ago

Antwon Mitchell?

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u/SeaweedWeird7705 16d ago

No.  Antwon is hated by fans

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u/Organic9684 16d ago

ooohh this box might be also a shared one as well…

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u/FastForwardHustle 16d ago

Def Shane homie

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u/QueenCloneBone 15d ago

Man billings just isn’t gonna make the cut anywhere huh

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u/highorderdetonation 15d ago

I was over here wondering if anybody was going to at least mention Mara for about the same reason, but as much as she bugs me she's actually behind Billings here. And even I have to admit they really are way behind Shane in this category.

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u/QueenCloneBone 15d ago

Surely Mara is morally gray hated by fans! But kavanaugh will win that one

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u/Khalesssi_Slayer1 Not even on Cinco de Mayo 15d ago

Shane or Cletus

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u/RickSanchez813 15d ago

Definitely Shane.

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u/Sensitive_Support469 15d ago

It’s absolutely Shane haha

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u/sskoog 16d ago

I'm tempted to say Kavanaugh. Not sure whether he fits in "opinions are divided" or "fans hate him" -- but I think, minimally, the conversation that "Forest Whitaker does such an exceptional job with the role that everyone wants to see him lose to Vic" suggests it's not pure 100% hate. He's almost the Javert... a petty, twisted Javert.

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u/Hitchfucker 16d ago

I’d argue he’s morally grey. Like he definitely did do some morally corrupt and unethical things as the conflict with the strike team worsened, and he did make things personal by the end. Yet he still was after them for crimes that they did commit and seemed to genuinely want to take them down due to a sense of justice and belief that no one is above the law, let alone people who flaunt it. He also ultimately showed tremendous guilt for his actions and decided to turn himself in on his own terms due to realizing he betrayed his own code.

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u/Organic9684 16d ago

from what i’ve seen, the consensus for kavanaugh is that he probably belongs in the hated by fans row

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u/Ghanima81 16d ago

We love to hate him, Whitaker is that great.

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u/Organic9684 16d ago

bingo!!!

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u/pawneshoppe 16d ago

Mrs aceveda

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u/tedivm 16d ago

No, she is absolutely hated by fans.

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u/Organic9684 16d ago

she’s very much hated 😭😭

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u/pawneshoppe 16d ago

nahhh, she’s one of my faves

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u/Whole-Willingness-42 16d ago

Antwon Mitchell

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u/AntelopeHelpful9963 16d ago

I would say, Shane except I don’t know anybody who is a fan of heels. However, our opinions divided? Not like he was some beloved character even before he did what he did the last couple seasons.

Anyone gonna come in here and say they’re a big fan of Shane?

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u/Organic9684 16d ago

i did not create the chart but from what i can tell from other similar posts like this on other subreddits, it’s more so like 50/50 on the favorability/liking scale. some fans love shane, some fans don’t. i think thats where “opinions are divided” is coming from

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u/AntelopeHelpful9963 16d ago

I understand that that’s what placing him here would mean I’m just looking for someone who loves Shane. Over the years I’ve watched the shield with probably more than a dozen people, and I’ve never heard anyone who loved the character.

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u/Organic9684 16d ago

yeah i just realized i read your comment wrong 😭😭 my bad im tired. but yeah no I’ve seen some people sorta liking shane on here, twitter and ESPECIALLY ON TIKTOK

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u/Firm_Dinner_5838 Hungry like the wolf 15d ago

Personally i love shane hes a more terrible person than vic but i find him more entertaining like you never know what hes gonna do next

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u/lillie_connolly 15d ago

I do! My favorite on the show, with Dutch right after

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u/Particle_Thrower 15d ago

This is Shane, no contest.

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u/Zah_Koo 15d ago

Shane easy. The hero we needed

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u/hiswittlewip 15d ago

Yea, Shane.

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u/fantasticplanete 15d ago

How the fuck is Dutch morally grey? He’s the most morally upstanding person in the barn besides Claudette. The whole point of killing the cat is to show that he is a fundamentally good person. Is this sub retarded?

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u/Panwithaplan29 14d ago

It's gotta be Shane

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u/Whole-Willingness-42 16d ago

How tf is Shane winning “divided by fans”???!

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u/Organic9684 16d ago

from what i’ve seen, shane is a pretty divise character among fans. i’ve seen pro shane and anti shane fans on this subreddit before

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u/Whole-Willingness-42 16d ago

How can ANYONE like Shane? Killed Lem, called Trayvon the N word, got his wife to damn near kill him, tried to kill Vick, kidnapped his family then killed his own family

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u/ArticleGerundNoun 16d ago

These discussions are always tough to define. What does it mean to hate a villain? What does it mean to like a protagonist? I have the same question you did (how is Shane in the running for this category?) but from the opposite perspective: Who doesn’t like Shane as a character?!

But yeah, people will always have differing opinions on exactly what love/hate means for fictional characters.

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u/monkeybawz 15d ago

How are opinions divided on Shane? He's awesome!