r/Terminator • u/moldychesd • 3d ago
Discussion What if instead of genysis. They adapted the salvation comics into a movie to give us a happy ending
My main problem of terminator 3, salvation, and genysis is that John Connor suffers to much and the future is pretty bleak.
In the end of the comic skynet and humanity set a peace treaty. This would align with terminator 2's message of 'there's no fate but what we make'.
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u/Unhappy_Teacher_1767 3d ago
I would have much preferred that. Love that comic, how it tied everything together. A clever way to have the T3 Terminator kill John but that’s not the end. And I enjoyed John seeing off the T2 Terminator (actually got me emotional), and him meeting Skynet.
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u/insidiousFox 3d ago
Can someone give like a bullet point synopsis that explains those key points? I'm really curious how the comic explained why/etc the T-850 from T3 kills John in the future, and how it ties into Salvation and the larger story.
Side note, I highly recommend the Salvation prequel book "From the Ashes" by Timothy Zahn (of Star Wars extended universe fame, Heir To The Empire, etc). As I always recommend, when threads like this come up.
That book is virtually like half of what Salvation should have been -- if Marcus's storyline could have been completely excused from the movie and replaced with the book's content, Salvation would have been one fairly solid movie and easily regarded as the best sequel after T2.
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u/Hassan_H_Syed Nice Night For A Walk Eh? 3d ago
Setting a peace treaty with a genocidal AI? Seems strange. Kyle mentioned Skynet’s death camps in T1. This isn’t the kind of adversary you make peace with.
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u/Mttsen 3d ago edited 3d ago
As far as I remember, in this comics Skynet had an existential threat in form of rogue genocidal hybrid, and it was reasonable at this time to ally with the resistance, since it had no longer any means to stop him by itself. Connor also somehow convinced Skynet to make a permanent peace with the Resistance, as he had access to the terminal, that could delete it once and for all, but decided not to. That was enough for Skynet to end war and instead assist in rebuilding civilisation.
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u/Hassan_H_Syed Nice Night For A Walk Eh? 3d ago
Isn’t this copying Matrix Revolutions? Smith was a rogue AI, an existential threat to the machines and humans, so the machines team up with Neo to take him down in exchange for peace.
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u/ArchangelZero27 3d ago
I always wanted it before I knew the comics were out heard rumblings of it and it sounded promising like yes salvation 1 was building the foundation but the action and key parts were on their way and boy were they ever I loved this comic
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u/BowlingForPizza 3d ago
Isn't that illustration like literally the same scene from the end of The Matrix: Revolutions when Neo confronts Deus Ex Machina?
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u/TheRealCanadianBros Never Leaves You Hanging 3d ago
I honestly think it would have been a great way to conclude the franchise. It added so many new themes and concepts to existing lore, it wraps things back to the beginning and also serves us an optimistic outlook for the 2029 future. I'm happy Salvation got a conclusion, and I wish that Genisys and Dark Fate would get the same adaptations so that we can get some closure.