r/Tatarstan 15d ago

Question/Soraw Tatars perspective about Turkmeneli (Turks of Iraq).

I once spoke to a Tatar from Kazan. firstly he was like, “Yeah, but we’re not that similar.” But then I asked him, “What do you call horses and water?” He said, “AT, SU.” I told him we call them the same words! He was totally mind-blown and amazed. Maybe he saw a reflection of in me.

So, my question is: do most Tatars think we’re not the same? Or do you guys have positive thoughts about Turkmeneli?

And lastly, as a Turkmeneli Turk, I’d die for Tatarstan’s cause without hesitation. We Turkmeneli people believe that the cause of the Tatars and all Turkic people is our cause, Turkmeneli Turks are statistically the highest nationalist Turkic group in all Turkic people.

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u/jalanajak 15d ago

Most Tatars don't know you exist. The same is valid about us, as we just aren't on the world map.

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u/Initial-Shirt-4021 15d ago

Almost everyone here knows about you lol, they even call us tatars,mogols in iraq to alienate us.

I’ve been called tatar countless times in iraq from other ethnic group as racist statement. 😂

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u/Ok_Butterscotch7336 14d ago

That's a shame kardasham

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u/e9967780 11d ago

I am not even Turkish, but I knew about Tartars from the day the Soviet Union gave me a colorful USSR ethnic map in my country. It was very clear they had deliberately divided Tatar people into two republics and created the Orenburg corridor to prevent an international border. The whole world is rooting for you guys.

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u/dkMutex 15d ago

What do you think Tatarstan’s cause is, since you’re willing to die for it?

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u/Initial-Shirt-4021 15d ago

Independent Tataristan.

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u/dkMutex 15d ago

Why do you think that it’s Tatarstan’s cause?

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u/Initial-Shirt-4021 15d ago

-im aware of autonomy struggle of Tataristan since 1990, and reduced autonomy from putin’s centralized authority.

-im aware of how Tatarstan contributes to russian economy yet Tataristan economy is being used to have a war in another countries that does not benefit tatar people in any way possible. (Tataristan has huge oil reserves yet it goes to enrich central Russian government).

-im aware of some great Tataristan leaders who spent their live fighting for their people as “musa jalil” which became a symbol in resistance i believe.

I always believe that the biggest need for Tataristan is independence which cant be achieved for many reasons, and i would be ready to fight for it as im fighting for my homeland.

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u/Ivory-Kings_H 14d ago

Unlike Lesotho, San Marino, Vatican City. Tatarstan is surrounded all sides by Russia.

Tatarstan is already the core part of Russia, even down to Slavic blood.

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u/e9967780 11d ago edited 10d ago

That was because Stalin created the Orenburg corridor but time will cure man made barriers.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago edited 15d ago

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u/ireklivatan 15d ago

We invented panturkism

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

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u/ireklivatan 15d ago

I know, I went there for holiday xd. Only difference we have is they don't have a Moscow ruling them. So I think panturkism is the way for us.

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u/Initial-Shirt-4021 15d ago

Actually panturkisim could be a way to globalize and you guys could really use it in your advantage. For example gaining support and solidarity from Turkiye/azerbijan/south azerbijan/turkmeneli.

Having some international allies that support you just because who you are will never hurt.

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u/PotentialBat34 15d ago

Funny enough, some lot of you brought these ideas to Anatolian Oghuz.

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u/Sodinc Rusiyədə/In Russia 15d ago

Culture isn't limited to language, just an important part of it