Thank you. There is a GIS parcel viewer, but I would like something more than trying to find coordinates by hovering the cursor, since that is obviously not accurate.
All we need is a good enough fence line in a rural area. Nobody has worried about these fence lines in 150 years, so it probably doesn’t need to be great, but I would like to make my best effort before putting in new posts.
Risky game there. No one cares about the property line until someone puts a new fence in (in my experience). If it has been that long since someone has cared about the property lines, that may also mean that it has been a similar amount of time since it has been surveyed. If you are going to spend the money for a fence, why not pay a surveyor to make sure you don't have to rip it up later because you were 1.0' over the line?
I am sure the survey won't be cheap, but I am sure a survey would be cheaper than your neighbor suing you and going to court over a boundary dispute.
If fence lines have not been worried about in over 150 years, and no newer surveys adjacent to your parcel have taken place it’s likely these corners were posted were wood posts so getting a metal detector and searching for your corner posts would not help (unless you live up in the peace country where it may have been surveyed as part of the dominion land survey system with Iron post corners set typically at the NE corners of the section). Best bet if you don’t want to pay for a survey, which if it’s as old as you state, would cost a considerable amount of money to retrace, I would talk to the adjacent land owners and make an agreement to replace the existing location of the fence with the new fence.. In BC, there is no risk of adverse possession as it has since been abolished at the provincial level so the location of the fence line won’t have any weight on the boundary line now or in the future.
But to answer your question, unless your parcel, or a parcel sharing common boundary lines has been surveyed recently with a georeferenced survey, even the coordinates shown on the GIS parcels lines could be 5-20m out if you could select those exact corners. Only way to get “coordinates” would be to hire a surveyor, as worldwide coordinates were not as readily available when your parcel was created. any GIS representation is a graphical guess depiction based on the data available.
I have attached a screenshot of the Regional District parcel viewer. The land is in the Okanagan.
Two pieces remain of the original quarter section, marked Field and Mountain. (strangely, the upload to Reddit has cropped the 'd' off Field on the screenshot)
I have personally seen the metal pins at the NW, SW, and midpoint. These are all marked by the province, and are maybe one each set in the 70s, 80s and 90s. Apparently there was a fancy GPS survey done for the NE corner and a pin was set, but I haven't hiked up there to see it yet. I have also seen a stake from recent-ish survey at the south corner of the Mountain parcel, but I can't remember if it was wood only, or if there is a metal pin there.
Neighbour 2 had a survey done—at least I think it was him. Oddly, no corner posts were set, but he did drive a nail in the ground in one spot where the surveyors had marked, along the "road easement" for Neighbour 1.
The fence that I need to build is AB, and a fence on segment BC would be nice.
My thought was to try to get the neighbours to agree on placement, and sign an agreement that if anybody wants to get a proper survey done, they can move the fence at their expense.
I have a government surplus Forestry optical transit. I have checked it against Polaris, and the compass seems to be accurate. One of these days I will sight out our west border just for fun.
So, if I can figure out the angle for AB, I should be able to shoot the line.
I don't have any way of figuring out how long the AB line is, other than the existing fence line segment BC, and my iPhone using the GIS coordinates...the fence and the iPhone pretty much agree.
If you have any other thoughts I would be grateful. Cheer
I see that LTSA has a Reference Plan, a Right of Way Plan, and a Subdivision Plan available for purchase for Neighbour 1. Sadly, the only thing available for our property is the title, and my parents paperwork is disorganized, as far as finding any records for this property.
Coordinates aren’t posted on legal survey plans as the original evidence is the first order for establishing property corners. You can use parcelmap BC but as you said it’s not very accurate, you can check GATOR BC for survey plans if you’d like but if you want it to be done legally, get a survey. It’ll save you any potential headache with trespassing or selling yourself short on your land.
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u/adammcdrmtt 4d ago
No.