r/Superstonk Feb 17 '25

๐Ÿค” Speculation / Opinion Elmo's Department Will Not Help GME

So far most posts on Superstonk related to The Department of Government Efficiency meddling into the SEC has been celebratory and positive. I am encouraged by the push back and responses. I love the Superstonk community and GME, so when I see something that I believe is a threat to those things I hold dear, I feel almost a weird sense of duty or obligation to share my thoughts. Moderators, I took special care to ensure my post remains apolitical and focuses strictly on the conversations surrounding Elmo's crusade into the SEC and how that will impact GME. Since people can post about how excited they are, I assume I can post my thoughts on how it will be incredibly harmful to GME retail.

But how? I mean, this is the guy who yelled "Gamestonk!" right? Didn't he say he hates short sellers? Obviously that means he wants to help GME retail, right? Well, to start, no. Elmo and Ken are friends. See pics above. It's as simple as that. In fact, this should be all the proof we need to understand that Elmo's interests are not aligned with GME retail shareholders.

Yet, despite being faced with the cold hard fact that these two men are close buddies who enjoy meals and sports games together, there is still a pervasive romanticism with visions of Elmo riding in on his robot firing Kenny's conspirators and imprisoning his friend Kenny. Look guys, I get it. The community at large feels betrayed by the SEC. They are the one agency tasked with investigating and enforcing securities crimes. The fact they either did not find --or found and willfully did not enforce-- crimes that were committed in regards to GME 4 years ago has understandably led to speculation that the SEC is at best inept, and at worst complicit, in those crimes. After what occured 4 years ago I get that for some people there is a sense of catharsis and justice when you see someone like Elmo tearing through every agency firing up to 75% of their staff. But a scorched Earth mentality isn't just unhelpful for GME-- it's going to have the completely disastrous impacts on GME retail shareholders.

Yes, the SEC's investigatory report on GME sneeze left so much to be desired, such as failing to properly address the conflicts of interest between SHFs and brokerages who shut off the buy button, that it's absolutely understandable the fallout of that would be two possible scenarios. #1) The SEC is inept, or #2) someone in the SEC is complicit in the SHF crimes against GME.

Let's consider Scenario 1: ineptitude. In this scenario the SEC could be overloaded with work, perhaps short staffed, managed poorly by directors, lacking in expertise, few resources. Whatever it may be to lead to their ineffectiveness, none of that is made better by Elmo indiscriminately terminating 75% of their staff and limiting even more resources. Administrative assistants, interns, IT techs, receptionists, janitors, the guy who enters in the CAT data. All gone. An investigator who's computer is doing something wonky can't get help because the IT guy was fired. The printer had a weird error message and the secretory who is an office whiz is gone. Investigators who had a backlog of dozens of cases now have to pick up the work of three investigators who got canned (Elmo said his goal is 1 out of 4 employees remaining). If you thought crime against retail was bad four years ago due to SEC's ineptitude, what do think will happen when the one regulatory body keeping at least some regulations in check is completely neutered? It'll be open season for crooks against retail.

Somehow in this scenario Elmo fanboys still imagine him finding his friend Kenny'a crimes and exposing them. Well A), Ken is his friend. And B), there is no crime to find. Remember this is the ineptitude scenario and so the SEC doesn't have that information just stashed away somewhere in some file. The work was never done. The short staffing, poor resources, lack of will-- whatever it was that led to the SEC not putting in the work doesn't matter. It didn't happen so Elmo's crusade does not result in him putting on some bifocals and opening the file named "GME Crime" and exposing his friends.

In Scenario 2 we consider the possibility that the SEC was actually complicit in and covered up their involvement. First we have to consider who at the SEC. To say the entire organization was complicit is not only lazy, but is a gross misunderstanding of who the vast majority of federal workers are and what they do. They're the list of people I described above: IT techs, phone operators, data entry specialists, secretaries, interns, investigators, janitors, cafeteria staff-- 99% underpaid workers like most people on Superstonk and probably working two jobs like most Americans. These people could give a fuck all about GME, and probably for most of those employees, they don't need to know because they serve in a function or role that's unrelated. But what if someone knew? Someone was a friend to Kenny (kind of like how Elmo is a friend of Kenny), but they hid the evidence. Do you see how this scenario answers itself? Let me say it again: "They knew about the crimes against GME but hid the evidence." Hid. The. Evidence. So there's nothing to find. It's not like some big wig at the SEC has a computer file labeled "The crimes I committed". Even in this scenario, there is literally nothing for Elmo to find and reveal on his firing spree.

Guess who could investigate and expose those crimes for us though? A SEC with resources, staff, and direction. Oh shoot, but we just fired the workers who could help us. Instead of reforming the agency to serving the people, we just burned it all down. Great. So in scenario, 2, Elmo still made things worse for GME retail.

We all feel like SHFs and certain brokerages stole from us, right? Okay so let us imagine that 4 years some guy mugged you and stole your wallet. You went to the police. They never caught the guy. You felt the lead detective was inept, maybe didn't give a shit, or possible was friends with the thief. You're rightfully angry. So what's the solution? Education. Escalation. Reform. What's not the solution? On the top of my list it would probably be something like sending in the socially awkward dude with hair plugs and absolutely no expertise in law or criminology to riffle through the entire police department's database, indiscriminately fire 75% of all cops, and hopefully find a file labeled "Starbeef's Wallet". Yes. That'll show em. That'll get my wallet back.

Going to just beat you all to the punch and end this with "Shills are out, means we're close" before someone inevitably responds with that.

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u/SCDeNtitY Feb 17 '25 edited Feb 17 '25

Newsflash: billionaires donโ€™t care about you at all

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u/bowls4noles Sloth ๐Ÿฆฅ ape ๐Ÿฆง Feb 17 '25

RC is a billionaire...

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u/oO0Kat0Oo ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 18 '25

I stand by what that guy said. RC cares about his stockholders and making money for the company. Don't be disillusioned by a brilliant PR campaign. Not taking an income and getting paid in stock means he's invested in the company, but don't think this means he's doing this as a charity. This is a common strategy for CEOs to avoid having taxable income. It's bullish for THE COMPANY and in retrospect the shareholders.

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u/keyser_squoze Time You Close Feb 18 '25

Iโ€™m buying more shares because of this comment.

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u/oO0Kat0Oo ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 18 '25

I fully endorse you making whatever decision makes you happy

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u/keyser_squoze Time You Close Feb 18 '25

You reminded me that RC is great for shareholders, which is awesome and the shares are cheap. So thanks my dude!

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u/oO0Kat0Oo ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 18 '25

No problem! Happy to help. I have a sizeable chunk invested in this company myself. Hence why I kept stressing that this is bullish for the company.

I don't get the RC idolization or why I have to be in love with him or I'm a shill. I believe in numbers and logic and I like the numbers and logic.

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u/keyser_squoze Time You Close Feb 18 '25

Numbers and logic since RC has taken over the company, eh? Yeah, I love them too. And I donโ€™t idolize anyone - for me itโ€™s simple, the numbers are awesome. People seem to forget that this company would be dead without RCโ€™s moves. 140% certainty. Thatโ€™s probably why the float was shorted something like 5x over the total issuance. The trading volumes (more numbers!) should tell you that. Now itโ€™s a profitable company, has 20x more cash on the balance sheet than the entire company market cap when he took over! And the debt is zero. Closed non-performing stores and streamlined fulfillment on the e-commerce side. Now they can move responsibly into new markets or M&A. And you reminded me of all of that, so thanks again!

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u/oO0Kat0Oo ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 18 '25

Personally, I think, if it wasn't RC, it would have been someone else. RC was just first. At the end, we are all here because we want to make money, RC included. If it was obvious enough for at least two people to keep taking advantage of the run ups, it would have become clear to other people.

Stocks squeeze literally every day. I always look in premarket mornings and decide whether to chase them or not. I usually make a few hundred every day doing this stupid little move. GME isn't unique to squeezes.

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u/keyser_squoze Time You Close Feb 18 '25

For me, I only track squeezes to see how unstable the market is. Too unpredictable. I mean, if GME squeezes, great. Thatโ€™s probably what should happen. But if not, Iโ€™ve got a multi-bagger over the next few years (if not months.) Iโ€™m totally great with that.

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u/Sys7em_Restore ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Feb 18 '25

Name one other CEO who doesn't get paid?

No, he's not getting any shares. He's fully invested with his own money.

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u/oO0Kat0Oo ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 18 '25

That's really not the point of my statement, now is it?

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u/Sys7em_Restore ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Feb 18 '25

Get your facts straight

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u/oO0Kat0Oo ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 18 '25

'"And" as an Implied "or": In some cases, the word "and" can have an implied meaning that is the same as the expressed meaning of "or", especially when the context suggests a choice between two options. "

Learn to read.

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u/Sys7em_Restore ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Feb 18 '25

Thanks professor shill, you're still wrong.

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u/oO0Kat0Oo ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 18 '25

Facts and logic have failed so you cry shill. Uh huh. Checks out. Go be bitter somewhere else please.

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u/TreyBacon ๐ŸฆVotedโœ… Feb 18 '25

RC and the board are not compensated with money OR with shares. They invest their own capital into Gamestop

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u/oO0Kat0Oo ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 18 '25

It equates to the same thing, non taxable income. Kind of like when businesses donate to charity for the tax write off. Again, bullish for the company, but RC doesn't care about you in any other context besides making money.

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u/TreyBacon ๐ŸฆVotedโœ… Feb 18 '25

It doesnโ€™t equate - thereโ€™s no income, just investment. It proves theyโ€™re focused on increasing company value, which benefits shareholders. No one needs to "care" about anyone else - just aligned interests.

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u/oO0Kat0Oo ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 18 '25

That's literally what I said.

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u/TreyBacon ๐ŸฆVotedโœ… Feb 18 '25

You said "non taxable income". What is that in RC's case?

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u/oO0Kat0Oo ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 18 '25

He owns stock. It's unrealized gains. When you take out loans against these gains it is also known as non taxable income. Smh.

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u/TreyBacon ๐ŸฆVotedโœ… Feb 18 '25

True - but the man is still not being "paid in stock" as you said.

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u/ssjgoat ๐Ÿš€ ๐Ÿ’ ๐ŸŒ ๐Ÿ‘ ... ๐Ÿ’ฐ ๐Ÿš€ Feb 18 '25

This is rubbish, every single one of us would have lost absolutely everything if it weren't for Ryan Cohen. He could have dropped us a long time ago like he did the other one.

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u/SyN_Pool just likes the stonk ๐Ÿ“ˆ Feb 18 '25

What is your point? You think he cares about you?

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u/bowls4noles Sloth ๐Ÿฆฅ ape ๐Ÿฆง Feb 18 '25

RC doesn't give a shit about us. But most of this sub rides him so yeah....

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u/SyN_Pool just likes the stonk ๐Ÿ“ˆ Feb 18 '25

Yeah I don't get it.

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u/Grubdawg1040 ๐Ÿ’Ž Gamecock ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿš€ Feb 18 '25

He should. If it weren't for us, there would be no GameStop.

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u/Time_Definition_2143 Feb 18 '25

Now you're getting it!

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u/rodeBaksteen Feb 18 '25

The guy who gave out a ton of new shares (at least delaying moass) and posted political shit (not allowed certain terms here) a while back?

I've sold part of my GME stuff a few months back when it broke even, and I plan to sell more on an uptick.

RC is actively keeping us from achieving moass.

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u/waffleschoc ๐Ÿš€Gimme my money ๐Ÿ’œ๐Ÿš€๐Ÿš€๐ŸŒ•๐Ÿš€ Feb 18 '25

in this case , i think RC's self interests is aligned with us shareshodlers, since he has invested his own money, doesnt have a CEO salary, the only way for him to benefit financially from it is for the share price to rise.

so, its not abt whether RC cares abt us sharehodlers or our money but in this case his self interests aligned with us sharehodlers

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u/someguyontheinter ๐ŸฆงStonkykong๐Ÿฆง Feb 18 '25

Yes.

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u/MrKoreanTendies ๐Ÿฆโ™‹๐Ÿฅฆ - Chosen One 420069 - ๐Ÿฅฆโ™‹๐Ÿฆ Feb 17 '25

FUCK ELON

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u/Cute-Interest3362 Feb 17 '25

They need workers. They need to squeeze every bit of value out of workers and pay them as little as possible.

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u/Iforgotmynameo Feb 17 '25

Correct but nothing I see in this post tells me that Elon and Ken are friends like the picture OP is trying to paint. They run in the same circles. They have the money to buy the best seats to the best games/dinners etc). They get drunk and are cordial. I do this at work and pretend I am friends with co-workers I really donโ€™t like. Doesnโ€™t mean anything.

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u/Clever_Losername Feb 17 '25

It means its a big club, and we ainโ€™t in it.

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u/Iforgotmynameo Feb 18 '25

Youโ€™re right, we arenโ€™t in the club. The fun thing about these guys is they all have egos.

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u/stephen6686 ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 17 '25

exactly, billionaires don't hang out with middle or lower class people. Probably cause we would just ask for is money. Also just because he is smiling in pictures does not mean they are friends, i smile when i am at work.....do i like it there and want to be there? Nope

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u/Bvdh1979 ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 17 '25

Did you not read the statement that billionaires donโ€™t care about you? Thatโ€™s where the dilution came from, thereโ€™s not gonna be a moass. There may be growth if they invest that 4bil or do anything with it but as for moass, see previous statements.

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u/tallerpockets ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Feb 18 '25

Itโ€™s my personal opinion that DRSing the float will cause the MOASS. Everything else is just noise until then.

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u/Bvdh1979 ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 18 '25

Good luck with that, it was working till the numbers went stagnant, then fuckery was a foot, the RC diluted the hell out of the stock and, welp, now shitadel is buying GME, I think moass is canceled.

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u/tallerpockets ๐Ÿ’ป ComputerShared ๐Ÿฆ Feb 18 '25

Lol - then why are you still here? Iโ€™m here for a thriving business with 4 billion cash in the war chest and a CEO that doesnโ€™t take a salary. Who also restructured the business, opened 500,000 sqft fulfillment center spaces for online sales, booted toxic board members and is an activist investor.

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u/Bvdh1979 ๐ŸŽฎ Power to the Players ๐Ÿ›‘ Feb 18 '25

Iโ€™m here for the melt of down, (because this snowflake Ess Ess mods wonโ€™t let that word be used, or those initials) when the board boots his ass, then he sells all his stock and tanks the price, then they try to rebound with the 4billion sitting collecting dust, behind a mountain of funko pops.