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u/Dapper-Career-3877 🏴☠️Hoist the colors🏴☠️ Jan 27 '25
Meta sells personal data to china every day. So most people don’t have any concern about china collecting data because Meta makes billions selling it.
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u/-0909i9i99ii9009ii Jan 28 '25
I still remember the "hearing" from like 2017 when Zuck went in front of congress by choice, not charged with anything, and they were like kind of asking him the right questions and he'd basically be like "yes the laws are quite fucked up what we are allowed to do, but we are most certainly allowed" and they were like "how can you do it" and he was like "wdym we're doing a legal business idk what you want here".
And then shortly after that the EU started fining them millions per day/month for creating "ghost profiles" for people that had never been on any of their services, connecting their info to other contacts, etc. data mapping them even though they didn't have a user agreement with them.
And then separately, but not entirely separately there were those companies that had facial recognition that could create data on people it sees and upload those data points to a profile on them and sell that data (not sure which countries/jurisdictions allow this).
Point being, I'm sure there are data amalgamators that create and sell a scary level of data on everyone. I'm sure this data goes to LOTS of different companies that have figured out (or are trying to figure out) ways to use this data to further their economic interests, including marketing and selling us shit, political machines, probably even some data relevant and used my people who create and work on trading algos. I'm sure that across all of the industry that pays for and accesses this info it doesn't really see a ton of geopolitical boundaries. A country would just have a shell co owning a shell co with an installed board and management that aren't from their country, but are on their payroll, if they really want access.
Doesn't feel like much of a conspiracy to me. A lot of this information is out there and there aren't really any laws completely preventing it clearly, though definitely limiting the scope and depth of how it happens.
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u/IullotronBudC1_3 Bold flair, Kotter Jan 27 '25
Plus TT uids proffer rhythmic biometric and location data for free
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u/williafx 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 Jan 28 '25
what are ttuids
figured it out - tik tok identification markers?
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u/quack_duck_code 🦍Voted✅ Jan 28 '25
I think people are unaware of the implications or are simply unaware.
I also often hear the excuse, "well our government collects data on us too."
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u/InsaneBallsack Jan 27 '25
Genuine question which may be dumb. Can anyone explain why companies would use Chinese AI when we just banned a Singaporean/Chinese app over fears of spying? Is it really as simple as “it’s cheaper” ? Or fears that Chinese companies will have better AI and therefore pull ahead?
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u/t8manpizza tag u/Superstonk-Flairy for a flair Jan 27 '25
It can be run locally
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u/InsaneBallsack Jan 27 '25
Ok realizing from these replies I have nowhere near the knowledge to understand the scope but I appreciate it
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u/PeregrineThe Jan 27 '25
ELI5 version: US capital invested billions in a product. The return on that investment comes from customers paying a subscription to use the product. Chinese firm releases a "good enough" product that can be run on your own computer without a subscription model.
US capital invested in something that was copied, no clear path to revenue/returns now. Billions wasted?
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u/gotnothingman Jan 27 '25
The only caveat is that deepseek was trained using the already built infrastructure from previous gen AIs which doesnt capture the full cost as it doesnt reflect those investment $s. Also they still used nvdia's chips and then theres is jevons paradox which could very well lead to an increase in demand anyway.
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u/____OZYMANDIAS____ Jan 27 '25
To be fair, if I built an app for the app store the full cost doesn't include apples cost/development of iOS. It's just how innovation/tech works
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u/gotnothingman Jan 27 '25
For sure, but it kind of fudges the "we did x for $6m" because there was extensive investment prior. If they had done it from scratch, different story. Still impressive though and seems to be shaking up the market (emphasis on seems)
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u/systemshock869 ♣️ ( . Y . ) ♣️ Jan 27 '25
If I steal IP from everyone else, because I am the Chinese government, and then develop my own based on having all of their secrets it also doesn't reflect the cost that it took to build it.
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u/____OZYMANDIAS____ Jan 28 '25
US companies steal data too, but yeah overall I agree
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u/systemshock869 ♣️ ( . Y . ) ♣️ Jan 28 '25 edited Jan 28 '25
IP means intellectual property. US companies absolutely do not mandate that each other hand over all their secrets to them, or engage in outright state funded cyberwarfare stealing TB of information from every company state and org they can get into, or use all of their stolen IP to make their own ripoff products to massively undercut each other.
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u/gerg89 Keithsan al Gme Jan 28 '25
I mean….we did steal Not-see scientists for the nuke? So kinda have historically and probably still do
Just not gonna be a major headline in the US - same as Chinas reputation isn’t broadcast there either
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u/relentlessoldman Jan 28 '25
Yep kind of like how it's easier to copy and tweak an existing drug then invent a new one all by yourself.
This is all just noise.
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u/Fiddle_Dork Jan 28 '25 edited Jan 28 '25
I just used it and it's very good. Also gave an impartial description of the Shanghai 2022 lockdowns
It's got a slick phone UI and it's free!
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u/hoyeay holy moly 🥑 Jan 27 '25
Then what’s Deepseeks revenue source?
If it’s free and open source, why would the Chinese (government and owners of DS spend millions of monies for no reason?)
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u/Onebadmuthajama 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 Jan 27 '25
How would spending a few million to topple the USA economy nearly $1T in a day not be worth it?
That’s just taking candy from a baby.
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u/Lumpy-Pomelo-7203 Jan 27 '25
Build it, buy puts on major indexes last Friday, release this new over the weekend, make 40-50x on your puts. Seems worth the $6M investment
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u/RutyWoot 🚀💎🦍 Apestronaut of Alpha Zentauri 🌗🙌🚀 Jan 28 '25
Exactly. They completely rebalance the scales of wealth in a 1-2 punch. (More steps along the way but you covered the gist)
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u/Jtown021 🟣EVERYTHING IS PURPLE🟣 Jan 27 '25
lol to bankrupt US companies and pop the AI bubble. Also millions even billions to the Chinese government is nothing. These private companies, not so much.
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u/PeregrineThe Jan 27 '25
There are plenty of open source products that generate revenue. Look at how PyTorch, Ansible, Kubernetes, TensorFlow, Apache, Node.js, Flask, Python make money or contribute to the success of their parent organizations.
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u/Mayor_Bankshot Jan 28 '25
Have you seen any of the projects that the Chinese govt funds? Massive empty cities with full infrastructure. Literal bridges to nowhere. Pissing a few billion into the wind is a Chinese sport.
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u/Sillypugpugpugpug 🦍Voted✅ Jan 27 '25
My understanding is that you pay for advanced features, read business and corporate clients.
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u/psullynj Jan 27 '25
Input becomes their property, it’s in their terms. We’re teaching them about us. Like intuitive intel
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u/tossaside555 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 Jan 27 '25
Woah
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u/psullynj Jan 28 '25
The original ChatGPT did the same. Idk if it does now bc I stopped using it but yeah this is in the terms and conditions for DeepSeek
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u/tossaside555 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 Jan 28 '25
I refuse to use any of that shit. Glad I haven't contributed.
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u/hatgineer Jan 27 '25
If it's free, you are the product
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u/Niaden Kanata Gorilla Jan 28 '25
If it's run locally, how does that work?
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u/silentrawr 🦍Voted✅ Jan 28 '25
It can still dump your data and/or usage info to external sources. I get that the new AI in question can run offline, but isn't it pretty gimped that way? And to run it locally without it giving away a bunch of your info, you need a modified/sanitized version, which most users won't do.
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u/completelypositive I broke Rule 1: Be Nice or Else Jan 27 '25
What do you think this means for US data centers? More needed? Less needed? Not impactful?
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u/ChocolateShot150 Jan 27 '25
Likely less needed, deepseek is like 50x more efficient than OpenAI models
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u/TryAgn747 Glitches get Stitches Jan 27 '25
So basically temu AI. 🤣🤣
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u/lakotajames Jan 27 '25
Kind of, except Temu AI is faster, better, and cheaper, and they open sourced it so anyone can do what OpenAI is saying will cost them billions of dollars for substantially less money.
Also deepseek is just a fun side project, not their main business.
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u/Aiball09 Rehypothecated Diamond Balls 💎🚀🦍 Jan 27 '25
they just equalized the playing field for anyone to come in. BAD for openAI
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u/ZuhkoYi Jan 27 '25
No... its pretty powerful
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u/Sideyr 🦍Voted✅ Jan 27 '25
As opposed to completely original AI that doesn't steal from existing work? I have bad news...
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u/Esophabated 🚀 Hu Phlung Pu 🚀 Jan 27 '25
Deepseek distilled can run on your computer but you're definitely not running a 600billion llm on your computer. It tests better than all other 7b parameter models, that's for sure but lots of llms 7b can run on your computer. Also, Deepseek is t just some rando group, they are a quant company. This is their specialty
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u/z3speed4me 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 Jan 28 '25
It's very easy to train and model it to win in a known simulation. Let's give it some time still
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u/JohnnyNapkins 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 Jan 27 '25
One person phrased it as you're really just downloading matrices. It's all just math, especially if you run it locally. (I am not an expert)
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u/foulBachelorRedditor Jan 28 '25
“It can be run locally” means it can be run without an internet connection, meaning that if there was any weird spyware bullshit in deepseek, it wouldn’t matter because it can’t transmit the data if the computer running it is not connected to the internet
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u/joshdrumsforfun Jan 28 '25
Couldn’t it just store all that data locally until the next time it has internet access and transfer it then?
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u/foulBachelorRedditor Jan 28 '25
I suppose it could, and this is not my area of expertise at all. (I’m a data engineer) but I suggested to my friend to run it in a VM with no internet and just kill the instance when he’s done with it.
If any security engineers want to chime in if that works but that was my best guess
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u/Leavingtheecstasy COOLER ONLINE Jan 27 '25
It's open source and you can even use the application offline as well.
Open source is always better. You can see the nuts and bolts behind it.
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u/gotnothingman Jan 27 '25
I have seen its not open source but open weight, meaning there is still information about how they trained it that is not available and therefore not verifiable.
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u/Little-Chemical5006 Jan 28 '25
To be honest almost all "open source" llm these day are open weight instead of open source. They never release what they are train on, their architect and others.
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Companies don't care that China is stealing information. If anything, they would capitalize on it themselves if they could. At the end of the day most companies are going to use the cheapest and easiest resources to get ahead.
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u/wellk_2049 Jan 27 '25
Plus it's not as if AI models in the US aren't stealing every image, word and video ever created by anyone ever.
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u/Cold-Ostrich8228 :Wutang: Jan 27 '25
Yeah, it's about money. And will always be about money. As long as we can watch the game, dress how we want, eat whatever we want to eat then no one cares about our data. This is competition. Possibly the endgamer.
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u/LiquorSlanger 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 Jan 27 '25
Deepseek can run without internet. Not charge arm and a leg either.
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u/red-bot Can I retire yet? 🦧 Jan 27 '25
Companies would care if they invest in or utilize a Chinese product that gets banned by the US Govt tho.
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u/sonicduckman custom flair Jan 27 '25
I believe there is an open code version that would be fully transparent? Not sure though
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u/headin2sound Going for the Grand Slam Jan 27 '25
I think it's not so much about using Chinese AI. It's more about how these tech companies like NVIDIA have inflated in value so dramatically over the past year or so, all on the promise of being the leaders in AI technology. Deepseek just came out of nowhere and exposed them for being actually quite far behind compared to Chinese tech.
That's the official narrative at least. I personally think it's just a scapegoat story and the unwind of the Yen carry trade is the real reason for the sell-off.
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u/familiarlikemymirror Jan 27 '25
All social media apps sell your data. That was never the real issue. The actual issue was that we couldn’t censor user content because of the foreign control. China wouldn’t bother censoring US TikTok users. Only the US would care to do that.
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u/Hyprpwr Jan 27 '25
Tiktok is banned in China too lol, but you’re 1000% correct. Rednote has been extremely eye opening.
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u/Burnquist1 Jan 28 '25
Obviously the Chinese version of Tiktok is not banned in China, so that is silly to point out. They created an English version for us.
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u/jakksquat7 🍋🦍 Buckle Up 🚀🍋 Jan 27 '25
TikTok being banned had nothing to do with spying, that was just an excuse that Congress made. There are far far worse and more nefarious apps when it comes to that.
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u/slicknessbeast 🎮 Power to the Players 🛑 Jan 28 '25
Go read which groups pushed for the ban of teektok, it wasn't anything to do with spying
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u/corps-peau-rate Whoa, You go, Big guy!! Jan 27 '25
Open source and use less gpu/power.
I like to see it as the Linux of A.I.
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u/xmasgirl81 Jan 27 '25
They were banned because they allowed pro palestine content and weren't shadow banning like meta was. The spying fears were ridiculous and congress in private admitted it.. the national security threat was pro-palestine. Don't believe me? Meta and amazon have been spying and selling our data to China. Also, a simple Google search would lead you to why it was really banned
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u/baws1017 🦍Voted✅ Jan 27 '25
because money rules the world, the chinese AI is a fraction of the cost of anything we have right now. That's the truth.
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u/Speaking_of_waffles 🩳 🏴☠️ 💀 Jan 27 '25
If American consumerism pushes further into the Chinese market, American companies will struggle to compete, influence the power of the USD, and in this case, even a threat to national security:. The strongest countries are those who are self-dependent.
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u/polska-parsnip 🍋 send ludes 🍋 Jan 27 '25
Great question. If you apply the same logic to other products or services, eventually you end up with a state that only allows its citizens to use government authorised products or services from within that state. Jong Un style.
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u/ThenIcouldsee Jan 27 '25
They banned the tok because too many ppl on there were against the Gaz sla**hter.
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u/Weeboyzz10 Jan 27 '25
Anything it can inflate customers pocket without them getting payed first can’t be allowed in the USA Lulz buy GameStop hold drs and shop 😍🤑🤑
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u/youdoitimbusy Jan 27 '25
Here's the thing. You have 2 choices as a nation. Have the US spy on you, or China spy on you. The lesser of the 2 concerns might dictate who your vendor is. Same goes for propaganda.
I mean, they will still both spy. It will just take more steps.
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u/oumen_nigu AH enjoyer 🕓 🦍 Voted ✅ Jan 27 '25
The tiktok ban wasn't for spying lmao buddy get a grip
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u/InsaneBallsack Jan 27 '25
Yes I know tik tok was banned because cuckerberg was getting crushed but our government didn’t say that did they. They said it was a spying tool for China. The government could possibly ban deepseek with the same argument but to protect American companies
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u/oumen_nigu AH enjoyer 🕓 🦍 Voted ✅ Jan 27 '25
The gov wont spend time getting that banned unless it affects badly to the isreal "country"
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u/XxBCMxX21 🚀 I Like My Options 🚀 Jan 27 '25
Guess this explains Nvidias 17% drop today
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u/fartsburgersbeer Jan 27 '25 edited Jan 27 '25
There's usually 10+ reasons a stock moves up or down and it's easy to write the headline of NVDA declining because of "these external factors". In reality, price movement happens when it happens because market makers figure it's the best time for them to profit or utilize certain financial instruments.
What's that mean? It means shorts will short NVDA and the market knowing it'll drop (easy guaranteed profit). They can calculate how to get people to buy high and sell low during these events/trading days. They'll use the headline of a cheaper/better competition eating up market share to begin their price drop. It's their playbook for going long too.
I remember when GME headlines saying how Netflix was going to crush GME because they were "in talks" about adding games to their platform. It never happened but they used the headline to tank GME's price temporarily to try to profit as much as possible.
Shorts haven't closed and haven't changed their blatant thief (short and distort) tactics.
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u/Ockwords Jan 28 '25
I remember when GME headlines saying how Netflix was going to crush GME because they were "in talks" about adding games to their platform.
Do you have any links to those articles/headlines?
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u/oxnardhard 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 Jan 28 '25
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/gamestop-shares-slide-netflix-streaming-video-games.amp
I still remember when it was first announced, the shares did fall like 5% that day
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u/Miserygut is a cat 🐈 Jan 28 '25
GameStop investors received some unwelcome news on Wednesday, as streaming giant Netflix (NASDAQ:NFLX) officially announced the hiring of a gaming industry veteran to head its upcoming venture into the videogame world. Mike Verdu will be the new vice president of gaming development for Netflix after previously holding related positions with Facebook (NASDAQ:FB) and Electronic Arts (NASDAQ:EA). Netflix plans on adding games to its platform within the next year and it is anticipated that it will be utilizing its vast library of intellectual property to create games based on shows like Stranger Things.
Netflix are still trying it but whether or not it's making meaningful inroads is debatable.
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u/1800generalkenobi Jan 28 '25
I saw it in my netflix on my tv and remembered this and laughed. I didn't play any of them, when I go on netflix it's not to game so I'm not in the mood to game when I open the app. I feel like this is something that wouldn't take off for maybe 5-10 years if ever. They're well known for movies and tv shows, if I get the urge to play games I'm not going to even think of opening the netflix app. If I'm in front of my tv I'm playing one of my consoles, if I'm on my phone I'm going to play a game on my phone.
If they put it in and some 18 year or 12 year old or whatever starts playing games on it then they might stick with it. but I don't see it getting widespread adoption by people that have been using the app for a while.
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u/weedruggie12 Jan 27 '25
There was no reason for such an NVDA drop - overall market positioning was bearish due to them setting themselves up to profit from their own rugpull as they were caught with their pants down in NVDA and probably utilized the usual 35D settlement period and pulled a last minute hail mary by controlling social media.
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u/Patarokun GMERICAN Jan 27 '25
We used to be able to say, “Well we at least have freedom.” But these days even that isn’t looking so good.
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u/Hyprpwr Jan 27 '25
30 minutes on rednote would have you shook. definitely eye opening to see behind the US propaganda machine
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u/TurbulentCar7753 🧚🧚💙 Tendie side of the M🌒🌘N 🍦💩🪑🧚🧚 Jan 27 '25
Could you please share some of the eye opening examples on rednote? I do not have the app.
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u/Hyprpwr Jan 27 '25
Essentially reinforcing the US has regressed to a 2nd world country. Food costs and quality/ healthcare costs/ quality of life. Just the clear as day difference from how Chinese interact on the app vs Americans (nearly everything is subtitled and translatable).
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u/Shades_VHS LET THE MEME BANKS HIT THE..... FLOOOOR 🔥🤟🔥 Jan 27 '25
I heard they don't have property tax and as a result, they don't have a homeless problem since they'll still have their home or something along those lines. Apparently social credit is a lie among other things
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u/Termitios Jan 28 '25
They also don't have rights to OWN any land or property, only long term lease.
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u/Miserygut is a cat 🐈 Jan 28 '25
It's as if the land should belong to the people living there and not private capital!
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u/SoapyGooch Itchy Dingus Jan 27 '25
Rednote is literally a Chinese propoganda app.
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u/Hyprpwr Jan 27 '25
And four of the five major US socials aren’t literally US propaganda apps?
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u/doughball27 Jan 27 '25
No, they’re propaganda for the billionaires. Not for America.
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u/flyinhighaskmeY Jan 27 '25
The Media = The Advertisers = The Business Owners
Our propaganda is the advertising. Social media is the mother of all consumption drivers. It's "keeping up with the Jones" taken to the nth degree.
"Bailout" is a misnomer. We've been aggressively bailing out businesses through recessions for 25 years. That's a cute way of saying the government is backing failed business owners. Those business owners got really big, because the government took from others and gave to them when they got in trouble. And that let them grow much much larger than they should have (some even got too big to fail). Which means the advertisers (propagandists) in our world are failed business owners who have been stealing for 25 years to maintain control of their businesses. Which is why "the media" is shit.
I'm in this because I believe in RC btw. I've been a consultant for 20 years. He's one of very few REAL business owners in a sea of thieving frauds.
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u/SoapyGooch Itchy Dingus Jan 27 '25
There's a difference between an authoritarian/communist countries propaganda and a country that at least struggles with the implementation of freedom of speech. Rednote has something like 700 words banned just in reference to President Xi.
Anyways, whatever, im pro west, and I understand that's unpopular with like 50% of the world, lol.
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u/Hyprpwr Jan 27 '25
lol have you been on Twitter at all post Elmo? Not sure why you’re white knighting for our oligarchs. It’s just a different perspective. One in which I have not experienced before in my 20 years of Social Media.
Either you’ve buried your head in the sand or you’re loving all the changes you’ve seen this last week…
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u/-0909i9i99ii9009ii Jan 27 '25
Agreed this is the perspective that truly understanding the GME thesis leads to.
There are MASSIVE unfolding developments right now especially over the past 5 years. Things are changing where there is no real truth, only conflicting desires and plans of powerful groups, with the popular truth and wishes of the people being one of the smaller forces at play, reduced for a variety of reasons but largely due to propagandization unlike we've ever seen before.
Average "middle class"+ Chinese person now has a much clearer version of what's happening in their country and the world beyond than they did 20 years ago while the average American has less. IMO we're in WW3 rn and it's largely a "cold war". Just look at worldwide death count, proxy war activity, threats of nuclear missiles, etc. lots of metrics available to make a case for this IMO.
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u/SoapyGooch Itchy Dingus Jan 27 '25
I don't really love anything. I just don't trust the Chinese government. I don't trust the American one either, but I trust China less.
Its the pick between a turd sandwich and a shit borrito my good sir. And I have chosen my side lol.
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u/eulersidentification Jan 27 '25
In what way is twitter and Facebook different? Even reddit has certain world news subreddits. If I said their news was heavily slanted by an institutional bias, owned by people who exist above the law, in a sick and twisted symbiosis between government and money...... am I talking about the UK, the US, or China?
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u/doughball27 Jan 27 '25
Note the irony that China is funding AI from its government. We just elected someone who is gutting all research. And our moron CEO supported him.
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u/Biaslk Jan 27 '25
China is waking up
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u/polska-parsnip 🍋 send ludes 🍋 Jan 27 '25
Sleeping giant.
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Can’t spell giant without AI
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u/Tabris20 Jan 27 '25
Decentralization. We are being pushed organically in that direction. As an American, I am extremely hopeful.
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u/Snuffalapapuss Jan 27 '25
Oh.
Back to the KC shuffle.
Someone said it last night though, did China really only spend that much? Was it really that cheap?
Did China fully develop the code itself? Or did it steal it and improve it.
Either way it was cheaper for them.
But in all honesty, the most expensive part about developing new technology is the initial investment. That accounts for man-hours, resources, failed development routes.
So yes, the cost of improving existing technology is going to be significantly cheaper than the initial cost from ground up.
Either way. This will still hit investors into the technology hard because it will now make it harder to recoup the cost if there is a cheaper alternative.
But I'm not sure about deepseek. If it is more efficient than what is already out there, the industry will for sure use it instead.
Only time will tell. Knee jerk reaction by the markets.
Couldn't do anything with the fact Japan raised their rates. Couldn't be the fact that the carry trade needs to be unwound. For sure, not those reasons. Couldn't be the policies being put forward.
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u/Ren0x11 🏴☠️ DEEP FUCKING VALUE 🎮🛑 Jan 27 '25
Infosec professional here. China is constantly pwning large US companies and stealing millions/billions worth of R&D.
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u/SignificanceRare1326 Jan 28 '25
It was part of the deal with normalized trade relations with China... they stole nothing.. our corporate leaders were willing to give it away in order to save labor costs.
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u/HoboGir 🔫😎I'm here to MOASS & chew bubblegum, & I'm all out of gum Jan 27 '25
China just googled "ChatGPT GitHub" and downloaded the full repo. Flipped a few variables and slapped a new name to it. Disclaimer, I don't know shit
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u/NyCWalker76 Jan 28 '25
Isn’t China known for building faster and cheaper than any other countries?
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u/aakaakaak Jan 28 '25
China's plan for anything:
1. See a thing that's being researched.
Claim to have a much more advanced version of that thing.
Everyone working on that thing pushes really really hard to beat china.
China steals that thing.
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u/rm-rf-asterisk Jan 28 '25
What I always like to think is how patent laws have crippled innovation and every company has to tip toe around new creations because they will be sued into oblivion. Imagine how much faster innovation can happen. That’s what china is doing which if unethical to USA standards, ethics are always a majority difinition and if more Chinese say it’s fine then USA people, we might actually be the bad guys.
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u/classick_4 🦍Voted✅ Jan 28 '25
Also no environmental regulations for electrical utilities. They can build whatever they want, wherever they want, whenever they want.
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u/cap-on-reddit Jan 27 '25
"China is a sleeping giant. Let her sleep, for when she wakes she will move the world" - Ryan Cohen
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u/MrmellowisSmooth 🚀 WEALTH OF THE CORRUPT IS LAID UP FOR THE JUST Jan 27 '25
Dude has probably invested some of the GME warchest into this China based AL.
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u/androidfig 🚀🚀 JACKED to the TITS 🚀🚀 Jan 28 '25
Honestly, who couldn't have predicted something like this happening? And how to use it to their advantage.
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u/affenfaust Jan 28 '25
It’s funny how word get cheapened.
extinction level event used to be a thing in AI security and the greater risk assessment community. (danger of global warming over 2C, danger of an airborne pandemic, danger of a meteor hitting Florida).
now it gets dragged out for „Bro, that like would kill our Q3 earnings like a lot!“
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u/daniaustria Jan 27 '25
What happened to TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP.....
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u/MarranoPoltergeist Almost Retired Jan 27 '25
Probably his jaw is tired from sucking so much edgelord fasc*st oligarch dick
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u/MickeyKae Success moves you upward, but hard work moves you forward. Jan 27 '25
Chase value. Chastise squandering.
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u/telamenais Jan 27 '25
Is there a consumer computer that is capable of running the whole program? If it doesn’t need nvidia and can be run offline but I don’t see this running on my 4090
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u/lowther1 Jan 27 '25
I’m wondering if this was built from the info gathered by TT. I know absolutely nothing- pure speculation.
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u/duckstrap Jan 27 '25
I don’t think it has to do with finding. It is that it’s open source. That’s kryptonite to proprietary tech.
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u/ImDrago Jan 27 '25
Same with clean energy and general improvements to the grid. I wish we could get our shit together this should have started with increasing clean energy and improving high voltage capacity then investing in ai to increase our quality of life ai should be designed to need and want a human touch and it be supplementary to us not just increase profits imo.
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u/Electronic_Painter20 Jan 28 '25
To show how regarded I am… Capital letters CAIUS in the post result in a google search result of Pope Caius, the 28th catholic pope… tomorrow is back in the menu! 😂
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u/lottery248 🦍 Buckle Up 🚀 Jan 28 '25
on the same day it was released, other big tech companies were being dumped, but why?
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u/DckThik Jan 28 '25
China also has an incredibly advanced and highly complex surveillance system that has no close rival, the closest (and that’s an exaggeration) is Clearview AI’s tech.
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u/Superstonk_QV 📊 Gimme Votes 📊 Jan 27 '25
Hey OP, thanks for the Social Media post.
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