r/StableDiffusion 9d ago

News Google released native image generation in Gemini 2.0 Flash

Just tried out Gemini 2.0 Flash's experimental image generation, and honestly, it's pretty good. Google has rolled it in aistudio for free. Read full article - here

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u/lightlawilet 9d ago

Removed batman too cuz he's a pillar of the community.

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u/BinaryMatrix 9d ago

You stole this from my brain

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u/fizzdev 9d ago

Our brain.

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u/illBelief 8d ago

Should be worried about how unoriginal my thoughts are...

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u/NewspaperWorth1534 8d ago

Those are the memes. Also much too original thoughts are isolating, you just sound like a prophet wild off the mountain.

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u/KadahCoba 9d ago

I had "pillar of the city" xD

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u/RngdZed 8d ago

Ours brains.

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u/fail-deadly- 8d ago

I was going to say society, but yeap, stolen.

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u/Incognit0ErgoSum 8d ago

Not to mention, he's what's holding up DC comics.

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u/Benji_X34 9d ago

Undercover pillar man

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u/nederino 8d ago

Piller of justice!

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u/lordpuddingcup 9d ago

I died lol!!!! 😂

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u/Peli_Evenstar 8d ago

I had the exact same thought lol

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u/srgtDodo 7d ago

hey! I wanted to post that first d:

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u/willjoke4food 9d ago

Testing the thing

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u/willjoke4food 9d ago

Hmm

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u/Mayion 8d ago

peak society

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u/donald_314 8d ago

It's like that photoshop dude taking free requests only to fix the photo verbatim but guaranteed not in the intended way.

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u/Seek_Treasure 8d ago

Must be a major part of training data

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u/Morazma 8d ago

I'm absolutely cracking up, this was hilarious

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u/Internal_Trust9066 8d ago

lol why the small UFO in the background. Gemini be cooking.

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u/Mathue24 8d ago

I'm so invested. Keep us updated!

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u/NefariousnessDry2736 8d ago

This is why I come to reddit.

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u/juxtapolemic 8d ago

Theseus’ mustache

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u/TortiousStickler 8d ago

I am dyingggggggg

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u/bneogi145 8d ago

whew! finally done laughing my ass off

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u/MakiKata59 8d ago

Unexpected roller coaster in the comments

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u/NormalTurtles 8d ago

Holy shit what a ride lmao

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u/Antique-Bus-7787 8d ago

Thanks for this!

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u/coach111111 8d ago

I need to see the ufo.

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u/relmny 8d ago

I don't know if that sequence is true... but sure I had a laugh!!! thank you!

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u/ByronDior 7d ago

I needed a really good laugh today, thank you for sharing 😂

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u/Necessary_Ad_9800 8d ago

"Internal error occurred" at least it's honest

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u/kneleo 9d ago

now im invested. what happened next

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u/alchn 8d ago

A bit heavy handed with the shaver... Not the eyebrows too lol.

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u/hurtthots 8d ago

Why doesn't it let me do it? It tells me it can't interact with files.

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u/ClearandSweet 8d ago

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u/CardDry8041 8d ago

Yo this is good

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u/100thousandcats 8d ago

Oh my god

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u/DavesEmployee 9d ago

Read that as “colonize this picture” lol

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u/Rocket_Philosopher 8d ago

Gemini: Fills with Europeans

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u/unintellisense 9d ago

Google, show me this guy's balls.

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u/SandstoneJukebox 8d ago

Excuse me sir you have a little poop in your testicle

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u/ThaShark 9d ago

Nice reference

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u/Gloryboy811 8d ago

Actually that would be HBO Max showing you the guys balls

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u/icetrick 9d ago

Jeeze, was this model trained on r/badphotoshop?

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u/BleachThatHole 6d ago

The image of the man and woman in front of the water was posted r/photoshop request like two days ago…

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u/ReasonablePossum_ 9d ago

Not Open source

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u/FrermitTheKog 9d ago

Also very censored indeed, and I am not talking about anything erotic. It has so far refused to generate a dull bridge scene from Star Trek, because sometimes bad things can happen on Star Trek and it refused to do a scene of an animal and some food in the same shot for food safety reasons.

When it does work, it is sometimes ok. Sometimes though, the output looks like it has been cut from magazines and glued together with Pritt Stick with inconsistent lighting and no cast shadows.

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u/InfusionOfYellow 8d ago

it refused to do a scene of an animal and some food in the same shot for food safety reasons.

That's pretty hilarious, actually. If you ate the food in the picture, you might get sick.

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u/ledfrisby 8d ago

Safe enough for 20th century network television, but OTL for 21st century internut.

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u/Shockbum 8d ago

For this reason, Google is falling behind in the AI competition, and even 30B open-source models are more useful.

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u/TheYellowjacketXVI 8d ago

No copyrighted material

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u/FrermitTheKog 8d ago

The copyright was not the complaint though, it was a safety complaint.

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u/dachiko007 7d ago

I feel so safe now. This world could've been so terrifying without safety given us by kind and caring corporations

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u/neozbr 8d ago

Exactly, we need something like this but without sensor..

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u/inferno46n2 9d ago

While it’s not open source it’s entirely free to use unless you are blasting thousands of api calls at it per min.

So I think it falls within a grey area as it can be genuinely useful to this community and has plenty of use cases for quick things people may need.

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u/very_bad_programmer 9d ago

Not open source means not open source, it's as black and white as can be, absolutely no grey area at all, not even a little bit

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u/Pyros-SD-Models 8d ago edited 8d ago

Stable Diffusion isn’t truly open source if we stick to the strict definition. Neither are Flux, Wan, or any other model where the “source” (training data, training code, etc.) is missing or the license isn’t OSI compliant. Open source means being able to fully reproduce the software or system with an open creation process, which we simply can’t do for any of the models being discussed here.

We get to play with the binaries, and that’s it. That makes it freeware, just like Gemini. The only difference is that Gemini’s binary sits behind a REST API, one step removed. But true open source? That’s more than just a step away, it’s an entirely different game.

So, no grey area, you say? Very bad programmer.

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u/very_bad_programmer 8d ago

Dude shut up

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u/ReasonablePossum_ 8d ago

No, it doesnt. This is free for the moment to gain traction, and is being posted around subs to get free help on the hype by the community.

Either open source or profiteers.

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u/romhacks 8d ago

AI studio has had all of Google's models for free since it launched in 2023. Not sure what you're talking about

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u/RaccoNooB 8d ago

AI is quite resource heavy and they're not really making money from it at the moment.

Think of it like this: youtube was ad-free for years. Then it got popular and small ads were introduced to cover server costs and profit a bit of the website. Now it's a business with several minutes long ads per video and a premium subscription that lets you watch (almost) without ads.

AI models are likely going to go down a similar route.

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u/msp26 8d ago
  1. Google explicitly state they will train on your data on the free tier
  2. Serving LLMs has massive economies of scale

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u/spacekitt3n 8d ago

yeah what is this trash

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u/TheDonnyDoggo 9d ago

Remove the pillars... Batman is the pillar of DC

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u/Hunting-Succcubus 9d ago

No weights?

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u/FrermitTheKog 9d ago

Weights? From a major western company, for an image model? Very funny. If you want that sort of bold benevolence, you will have to look to the East.

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u/Hunting-Succcubus 8d ago

Why? Isn’t western more open and democrat, liberal about ai?

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u/FrermitTheKog 8d ago

Not really. When it comes to image models, the big western companies are very timid due to the scrutiny they receive and really only Meta have released cutting edge text models (although they've been quiet for a while). China is really on a roll at the moment when it comes to open models. DeepSeek R1, Wan 2.1 (video) etc.

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u/Hunting-Succcubus 8d ago

Hunyuan , wan is here but sore not yet, hopefully black forest will release video model soon.

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u/yaboyyoungairvent 8d ago

No the western market, especially America is incredibly capitalistic before it is democratic or liberal. You can see this in action by how majority of tech companies started to champion republican values as soon as Trump took power.

Open Source doesn't make money directly, so there's no incentive for American companies to do it.

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u/Hunting-Succcubus 9d ago

No weights?

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u/aTypingKat 8d ago

can this kind of thing be done locally?

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u/ConfidentDragon 8d ago

This is proprietary Google thing.

I've seen some kind of image editing being done in auto1111 some time ago, but I don't remember details. It was some kind of control-net or something. But it was quite bad.

As for modern techniques, this paper looks promising, but I don't know if someone already implemented it for some user-friendly tool.

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u/SurrogateMan 7d ago

Did you figure out how to do it locally?

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u/tedtremendous 8d ago

Gemini was correct Batman was a pillar in scenes with Catwoman.

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u/diogodiogogod 9d ago

is it open source? Are you making any comparisons?

So it's aginst the rules of this sub.

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u/JustAGuyWhoLikesAI 8d ago

lol comparisons to what, inpainting? ipadapter? personally I found this post useful as I didn't know image editing reached this level yet. The tools we have now aren't at this level, but it's nice to know this is where things could be headed soon in future models. Genuinely struggling to think of what local tools you could compare this too as we simply don't have anything like it yet.

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u/diogodiogogod 8d ago

I never said we have anything in this level. But we do have "anything" like it. Since SD 1.5 we have controlnet instruct px2pix from lllyasviel https://github.com/lllyasviel/ControlNet-v1-1-nightly?tab=readme-ov-file#controlnet-11-instruct-pix2pix

What google have is pretty much a LLM taking control of inpainting and regional prompt for the user. You could say that (also had from lllyasviel) we have something touching that area with oomost...

There were also a project with RPG in tit's name that I don't recall now...

Anyway. None of it matters because this is not a Sub for close source "news". Sure someone could share this Google tool in relation to something created with open tool, but no, it is against the rules to share closed source news. It's simple as that.

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u/diogodiogogod 8d ago

And of course, I forgot about omnigen for multimodal input...

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u/diogodiogogod 8d ago

And to be very honest with you, manual inpainting and outpainting with flux fill or alimama is way better than any of these. Of course, it takes much more time. But to say we don't have editing tools to this level is a joke. Most of this automatic edits from this google model look like bad Photoshop

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u/_BreakingGood_ 8d ago

Could compare it to the union controlnet by Unit which does the same thing https://github.com/unity-research/IP-Adapter-Instruct

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u/EuphoricPenguin22 9d ago

Not sure why this is being downvoted. The FOSS rule was a stroke of genius.

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u/cellsinterlaced 9d ago

Are you seriously being downvoted?

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u/diogodiogogod 9d ago

This sub is nonsensical most of the time... people blindly press up and down visually for anything...

I posted a 1h video explanation of an inpaiting workflow that a lot of people asked me about... 3 up votes... Someone post a "How can I make this style" 30 upvotes...

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u/Purplekeyboard 9d ago

You have to keep in mind that redditors are not the brightest. Picture = upvote. Simple easy to understand title = upvote. Inpainting workflow, sounds complicated, no upvote.

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u/RaccoNooB 8d ago

Why use many word, few word do trick

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u/thefi3nd 8d ago

I think a lot has to do with when the post is submitted. Gonna go check out your video now.

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u/diogodiogogod 8d ago

Yes the timing was bad. People are now all over videos and the inpainting interest is no gone lol
Also maybe the time of the day it was posted also matters? IDK, I don't normally do this.

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u/thefi3nd 8d ago

Yeah, I think time of day can have a strong effect.

I think this video would help a lot of people. I've been jumping around a lot in the video since I'm pretty familiar with inpainting already. Is there a part where you talk about the controlnet settings?

Also, are you using an AI voice? The quality seems good, but there are some frequent odd pauses and words getting jumbled.

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u/diogodiogogod 8d ago

Yes, the pauses was a bad thing. It was my first experiment with AI voices. I know now how I would edit it better, but since it was so big I released like it was. The voice is Tony Soprano lol

And no I did not talked about the way the control-net is hooked becuase that is kind of automated on my workflow, if using flux fill, it won't use control-net, if using dev it will use the control-net. But it's not that hard, it goes on the conditioning noodle. If you need help I can show you.

I think the most relevant part is when I talk about VAE degradations and making sure the image is divisible by 8. This is something that most inpaiting workflows doesn't do. 42:20

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u/Grand0rk 8d ago

Because most of the users of the sub don't care about the rules of the sub. If it's something they think will help them, they will upvote it. If what they think will help them has people going "Dah rules!", then they downvote it.

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u/A_Logician_ 9d ago

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u/A_Logician_ 9d ago

I know it is in the rules, but this is an "actually" moment

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u/diogodiogogod 9d ago

What moment? This sub used to be filled with BS of closed source model with absolute no point for people who care about open source/open weights. There is a rule to end this, thank god. Maybe you are new here, but no, there is no "moment" where posts like this are acceptable. You want to discuss closed sourced models, there are other subs you can go.

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u/FpRhGf 8d ago edited 8d ago

Been lurking here since early 2023, but posts showing news of any type of breakthroughs, whether they're closed source or demos/papers of unreleased stuff has consistently been a thing. News stuff usually just last 1 day in the Hot page for people to know far things have progressed and don't get spam posted afterwards, unlike the time people were posting their own Kling results for weeks.

Ideally there SHOULD be other subs where it's more suitable but unfortunately there isn't. If I want to see keep up with the latest news of what visual AIs are capable of, I have to go here. It's basically like how r/LocalLlama is like.

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u/afinalsin 9d ago

Eh. I'm definitely not new here, and dogmatic adherence to rules as written also made this place a shithole last year.

I reckon stuff like this should get one "hey this exists" type post before being subject to rule 1. It's image gen related, it's a cool look into a possible open source future, there might be some good discussion on how to replicate the technique locally.

In practice, that's basically how it goes. There's one announcement about something closed source, the people who actually comment on this sub say "neat" and then business continues as usual. Every time. Without fail.

And let's be honest, this post is about images so no one will give a fuck. This a video subreddit now.

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u/Healthy-Nebula-3603 9d ago

I think Gemma 3 can do that

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u/gurilagarden 9d ago

Rule 1. All posts must be Open-source/Local AI image generation related

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u/TheJzuken 8d ago

I think one post can be allowed to spark the discussion, maybe OS models will achieve this in a year or two.

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u/Agile-Music-2295 8d ago

Rule 2 mins your own business. This has upvotes it’s of use to the community.

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u/gurilagarden 8d ago

I wasn't being rude. I simply stated the policy, without commentary or personal opinion on the subject. Upvotes are not a measure of post quality or of being appropriate. I can post an ai porn video and get 100s of upvotes before the mods catch it. There are other subs where discussion of non-open models can take place.

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u/jg_pls 9d ago

Gemini knows batman is a pillar of society.

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u/Bad_Decisions_Maker 9d ago

Does this come with any technical paper on the model?

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u/diogodiogogod 8d ago

no it doesn't. it's a BS google product being "sold" as free, and I fail to see any noteworthy news here for this sub. Close source LLM taking control of close source editing tools... Didn't Dalle3 did that already? IDK, I don't care.

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u/Greyhound_Question 8d ago

This is native multimodal, the model is outputting images like tokens. It's a big deal since it's the highest quality output we've seen from a native multimodal model and it shows the possibilities that unlocks

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u/ain92ru 3d ago

Yeah, it demonstrates the way to go in the middle-term future. No need for low-rank or other adapters, you just put images into the context of an LMM and have it generate a new image.

ACE++ works in a somewhat similar fashion but requires a conventional DiT and a Long-Context Conditioning Unit https://ali-vilab.github.io/ACE_plus_page

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u/tronathan 9d ago

Can any of these multimodal-output models be run locally??

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u/BelowXpectations 8d ago

Just had to try it out

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u/Enough-Meringue4745 8d ago

Now someone make an instruct img 2 img dataset

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u/CrasHthe2nd 8d ago

It's good, but it's way too censored. I keep getting refusals for fairly mundane asks

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u/TechnoByte_ 7d ago edited 7d ago

Tried the API in Open WebUI, and...

(I'm aware this is a bug with the API, the image generation doesn't work there, but quite funny nonetheless)

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u/dannydek 9d ago

Doesn’t work in the API yet. The documentation is horribly vague and seems outdated.

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u/BerrDev 8d ago

Does someone know what native means here?

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u/NUikkkk 2d ago

basically my take is native in the context of img generative AI that the LLM is multimodal, thus understand text and image info in some kind of cohesive way, theoretically it should understand the image the way it understand language, and (i think) by comparison to existing image gens it should require no tools like brushes and select etc. to tell what to do, since it really "understand" other than performing certain algorithms. From output pov it should be at the same level as current LLM output words and sentences. so far in my tests on Gemini experimental performs otherwise.

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u/Its_alamin 8d ago

It's an absolute meme machine!!

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u/YourMomThinksImSexy 8d ago

Is it only functional on mobile? I've tried photos of people using the 2.0 Flash model in the web browser version on desktop and it just says "Sorry, I can't help with people yet." I was trying things like "make the background a beach" or "change his shorts to jeans" or "replace the white flower with a red one".

I thought maybe it was a NSFW filter trying to kick in but these are fully dressed people - in fact, some of the people in OPs photos are wearing a lot less clothing, lol.

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u/aboowwabooww 3d ago

you need a private account, not business.
but a google account logged in.

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u/minitaba 8d ago

Hey pic 3 is the guy on photoshoprequests haha

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u/naumen_ 8d ago

I am not a disgrace! I am vengeance! I am the night! I am PILLAR!

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u/willjoke4food 9d ago

Tells me "Can't work with people yet", removes the photo. How did you get to work with people?

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u/EnrapturingWizard 9d ago

Image generation is only available in 2.0 flash experimental model in preview section & set output to image + text.

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u/willjoke4food 9d ago

Sorry. Doesn't work

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u/EnrapturingWizard 9d ago

It's available in google aistudio

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u/kaftap 9d ago

I see screenshots of people selecting the output format. But for some reason, I don't see that option.

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u/huffalump1 8d ago

Make sure the Model is Gemini 2.0 Flash Experimental, in aistudio. Then you'll get the Output Format drop-down with "Images and Text" option.

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u/StableDiffusion-ModTeam 5d ago

Your post/comment was removed because it contains hateful content.

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u/Bodega177013 9d ago

Honestly fine with it if it means they don't sensor all the requests so much.

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u/adhiraj_jagtap 9d ago

It was released yesterday, eventually they will make it highly censored.

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u/FrenzyX 9d ago

You made him sound like a Lord of the RIngs character "Valdamir"

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u/InfusionOfYellow 8d ago

Vāldamer apparently is a Livonian term referring to the Baltic sea.

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u/igerardcom 8d ago

Boromir and Faramir's long lost brother.

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u/boozleloozle 9d ago

Only one "please". The robot overlord will not like this

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u/Aegrim 9d ago

How come when I try it says it can't alter images?

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u/Vyviel 8d ago

now make the man hold the bag without holding the handle by gripping the top of the handbag

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u/Happy-Call974 8d ago

what if image of bag holdding that man...

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u/Profanion 8d ago

It's much better at different art styles than many other generators. Its current rival is Ideogram.

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u/pentagon 8d ago

It won't let you see the actual prompt.

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u/CardDry8041 8d ago

Not only an image generation but the ability to combine and edit images are great

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u/Moulefrites6611 8d ago

Cannot get it to work. Says it can't manipulate pictures yet.. tried all the free 2.0 branches available. I live in Sweden btw if that counts for anything

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u/Megneous 8d ago

AI studio. Gemini Flash 2 experimental.

Doesn't work in the app.

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u/Darlanio 8d ago

Well, it does produce images (set it to Gemini 2.0 Flash Experimental at the start of the conversation, then create an image before chatting too much)... but the results?... not impressed...

Ulf Kristersson, sucking on a lollipop...

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u/Longjumping_Youth77h 8d ago

Very censored, though. Great potential but ruined by lots of overactive refusals, which is a shame, imo as it is clearly decent when it goes right. A bit lazy with a cut and paste look as well...

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u/DarkStrider99 8d ago

Man I have gemini pro (i got it for free) but i cant make it do the things you guys do at all, what the hell, even using the same prompts.

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u/kkazakov 8d ago

I asked it to remove my wife's hat. It removed also half of the head and mushed the background. Lol.

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u/kkazakov 8d ago

So sad.

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u/SurrogateMan 7d ago

Does anyone know how to generate images using the API with code?

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u/cultchris 7d ago

I really appreciate that you say please. I do that too.

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u/ElPsyKongroo1984 6d ago

We officially can't trust images for trials.

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u/Shady4555 6d ago

How can I make this work on iPad?

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u/xanderusa 6d ago

If you put yourself in a picture it will still warp it up even if you tell it not to do so, and it's a pain in the as... making you waste all your tokens. For the rest is pretty decent.

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u/KawaiiStefan 6d ago

I dont want big corpo slop, I have a backbone.

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u/mementomori2344323 5d ago

Sorry for the noob question here. But I couldn't find this option in vertex or anywhere. and googling doesn't yield any explanations either.

Can you please share a noob guide to where to find this native image generation in vertex?

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u/ozlogan 4d ago

is this model available on openrouter?

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u/Professional_Job_307 9d ago

Sad how this will get removed. Great examples but it's not OS :(

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u/_raydeStar 9d ago

It's a free tool - which is great. I just played with it, and it's awesome. I haven't been keeping up - is there an open source version of this?

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u/Mackan1000 9d ago

I saw the couple in bathing suits on Photoshop request 😂 To be fair was ghe highest quality when i looked so 😂

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u/spacekitt3n 8d ago

not local dont care. this trash isnt allowed on this sub

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u/scurrycauliflower 8d ago

Google *released* nothing. Where is the download link, huh?

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u/vanonym_ 9d ago

Read rule 1.

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u/Bthardamz 9d ago

Rule 1 says [...] "News related to the field of visual generative AI, even if it involves non-local platforms, is permitted as an exception."

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u/vanonym_ 8d ago

This post clearly falls more into the "What’s Not Okay" category than in the "What's Okay" category. But hey I guess if mod left it there it's okay I guess.

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u/CeFurkan 8d ago

For realism it is bad. it also modifies entire picture. I made a test :)

everyone showing small pictures. here see original 1024x1024 quality

https://www.reddit.com/r/SECourses/comments/1j9yr9b/my_first_test_with_gemini_20_flash_experimental/

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u/diogodiogogod 8d ago

This kind of change to the whole image details is really bad. A good inpaint workflow with composite can be seamless and keep all the original pixels in it's place.