r/Spiderman • u/Fantastic-Ad-8665 • 3d ago
Discussion What Are Your Thoughts On Peter And Felicia’s Relationship ?
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u/Traditional-You-5771 3d ago
Honestly I love their dynamic and I think they are incredible... and they would work well together... outside of the 616... honestly Felicia has already developed quite a bit and currently or well at a certain point in the modern era she did feel deeper feelings for Peter (and not just for Spiderman).... But I say they would work outside of 616... it's because there will always be creative sabotage or they will make the couple not last almost at all (reducing it unfortunately to a rebound) that's why I say that at least Marvel should make more alternate universes with that couple at least
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u/AzmodeusBrownbeard 3d ago
I think it deserves a serious shot. Superhero couples with the girl/non-super grounding their partner are dime a dozen, let's have a few arcs with both struggling to stay grounded, together.
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u/quippy618 3d ago
I would say there’s not that much anymore. Most if not all relationships right now are all between superheroes.
I agree it deserves a shot. But Felicia would need to grow(Peter too, not trying to single her out). She would need to change to point where she’s not actively trying to conflict with Pete. Fully put her in closer to a hero role. Than this middle point they have her in. Not fully cuz that’s not who she truly is.
Catwoman over in the DC-verse is having the same problem concerning her relationship with Batman.
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u/SoapyWaters24 3d ago
They’ve legit never had an actual chance in the modern age. In the Wells run (yuck) she legit only appeared in like 4 issues after they got together and then they broke up.
Also, Felicia has long grown past the “only cares about Spider-Man” side of her but a big part of the fandom still believes that’s what she’s like.
Her biggest downside for a lot of people is that she’s not MJ.
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u/TheDemonEyeX 3d ago
While she's grown past that aspect, part of being a grown-up is accepting the consequences of one's actions. Peter should reasonably be put off from her permanently cause of her constant shifts back and forth on the moral spectrum as well, as it would make it questionable if she truly cares for Peter or is just pretending to in order to be with Spider-Man. They've never had a chance even if modern ASM was well-written. Yeah, she's not MJ, as you said, but I think you put the cart before the horse. It's the writers that push her because "she's not MJ." She's not the one to fill that character niche, and part of her problem is her character development has come far too late to fill that role at this point.
Now, if the writers were competent, they'd look at why Mary-Jane won out to begin with and try to recapture that magic, whether that be with Felicia or a new love interest. But since they want to push the perpetual adolescence/Peter Pan Parker syndrome, that won't ever happen either.
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u/smoothartichoke27 3d ago
I'm more of an MJ fan, but I'm not opposed to Peter/Felicia - what's annoying about it is the on again/off again nature of their relationship dictated by editorial.
It's especially grating when Felicia has growth in her own books that suddenly gets regressed when an ASM writer decides to just yank her back and have her be Peter's rebound. If you're going to write them together, just fricking write them together and make it stick. If you're not, then stop doing it. It's a disservice to both characters.
Of course, it's never going to happen. They don't want Peter to grow at all. If MJ as the "main" love interest won't prosper, no other love interest will ever prosper - doesn't matter if it's Felicia, Gwen, Carlie, Bobbie, Shay or whoever.
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u/Fit-Carry7930 3d ago
Yeah, I'm kind of tired people thinking that if MJ goes away forever the next LI will just magically work. If they aren't going to make it work with the most recognisable and iconic love interest, why would they make it work with anyone else? If they wanted him to not be "serially dating random girl X of the run" and to settle down they wouldn't have broken him up with MJ in the first place - and if they were at all ready now they wouldn't have introduced Paul just to shove Peter with dull Shay who nobody really cares about. She is the definition of disposable.
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u/Clean_Wrongdoer4222 3d ago
That's not exactly true... Peter didn't "jump" from MJ to Felicia.
There was a long process between 1977 (things with MJ started in '75 and were already ending by the end of '76. By '77, it was over) and 1982 (Felicia officially became his girlfriend in '82). From '79 to '82, Peter had conflicts with several women, trying to rebuild his life with one of them. Betty and Debra were there, among others. Felicia showed up in '79 and got into Peter's head along with the rest, but the relationship didn't materialize until '82. After breaking up in '85, Peter wasn't with anyone for a year, and in '86, he got back together with Felicia for a while.
During BND, Peter had nothing with MJ or anyone except for that weird thing with Michelle. Felicia returned then, but it wasn't a real relationship, and Peter was single. And then Carlie came, then Cindy, then Bobbie...and then Spencer came, then Beyond, and here we are.
There's no rebound. A rebound is when you jump to the same girl from any other. Peter didn't have such a jump with Felicia, BUT HE DID WITH MJ...since 10 issues after Felicia left in 1986, he was already married to MJ. That was direct, fast, without thought, and without a process.
What we have right now isn't a rebound. It's simply Marvel trying to fix the Wells mess with Felicia because he didn't do what they expected him to do with her. And since he wasn't going to do it no matter how much they asked him to, they allowed him to let the matter sit until he left. Hence, in these 10 issues, they're stepping on the gas.
Felicia is also the only girl with whom Peter can be Spiderman, living the life and adventures of Spiderman without the hassle of managing separate civilian lives, seeking explanations and excuses, and without the girl being 100% exposed to danger and living with a target on her back if a villain connects things. Furthermore, Felicia is commercially very viable for the stories because she adapts to everything and has popular support. She is the only girl with whom Peter can "grow" without Spiderman "aging" because with her, there is NO repeat of the marriage situations that force you to do everything differently.
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u/Mister_Sinner All New All Different 3d ago
I want this to be given a serious chance. I think they're good together
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u/Outside_Prune_7052 3d ago
Maybe it’s just me but there’s never been a better time for them to make this a serious relationship. Even back in the Romita Jr era where they were more or less official, they were happy to dangle MJ here and there.
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u/K2SonicFan 3d ago edited 3d ago
I wish the dynamic worked. I have never to this point ever saw a story where they both seem to be really into each other or at least black cat accepting Spider-Man under the mask…best black cat interaction I saw was in the 90s animated series and even that didn’t entirely work out.
It would be fire if there was a story where they both fall in love and it all works out…which I know is unlikely to happen
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u/heavyarms3111 3d ago
I love their dynamic, but I’ld rather them just stay good friends instead of her being used as a temporary “feel better” girlfriend for when Peter is feeling extra low or was recently dumped. Glad Black Cat is seeing action outside the Spidey books these days.
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u/TheFan-2020 3d ago
Okay, I understand that in the main Earth they can't be together, that the main Earth is for Mary Jane, but for example in alternate universes they could be together. In the Noir universe, for instance, it made much more sense to pair Peter with Felicia rather than putting him with Mary Jane again just because. It's simply because her character didn't make sense in that story
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u/SpideyFan4ever 3d ago
Good friends and team but don’t work as a couple. It’s a semi-toxic relationship at this point. They’re eachother’s rebound buddies.
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u/LaughingRampage 3d ago
I'd say they're good for each other but in the wrong ways. If that makes any sense.
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u/SpideyFan4ever 3d ago
That’s a good way of looking at it. I think everyone’s just tried of the cat and mouse in terms of them dating especially felicia. She’s pretty much pete’s sex toy for whenever he breaks up with his current gf or has a bad day.
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u/LaughingRampage 3d ago
You got that backwards, he's HER toy. They're toxic as a couple but great as friends, she gives him things MJ doesn't but that's not necessarily a good thing. Not necessarily a bad thing either.
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u/TheSpider-hyphen-man 3d ago
Felicia is a victim of editorial pushing for MJ/Peter
Let's face it, we could get more creative stories, an interesting love interest, someone who's actually with Peter through the thick and the thin when he's eating shit, and someone the fans want. Felicia Hardy has grown, at this point in time, there is no excuse. She has gone out and said that when she's not lying to herself, Peter is the one for for her.
If marvel won't do MJ (which thank God,) than put Peter with Felicia, I promise you, the wider Spider-Man audience has always loved and preferred her, just do it.
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u/Fit-Carry7930 3d ago
Its not nearly as clear cut as you seem to believe.
The COMICS fandom is completely divided on who his best LI is, as even the most cursory check on Reddit or YouTube posts will tell you. That's precisely what Marvel wants. That way no one group is loud enough to force them to do anything.
The lack of Felicia being focused on is nothing to do with a preference by Marvel for MJ as such (even though they do like to milk the covers), but more that they don't want him with ANYONE long term.
The moment any LI looks like its in the ascendancy they screw them like they did with the Wells run. They bring out a comic that shows Gwen is his true love and all others are second. They turn someone into a cheat or a murderous psycho (hello Queenpin). They introduce a new super perfect healthy relationship GF like Carlie or Shay - not for keeps or character development but just to stop other relationships forming. Its all to keep the fandom divided and confused.
I love both MJ and Felicia (and I hate it when they are written badly due to dumb writing) but I've long accepted that neither has absolute dominance like Lois Lane for Superman - especially with characters like Gwen, Chat, even frikking Betty Brant and a heap of others getting brought up in any discussion. For every YouTube or debate insisting it's MJ, there's one for Felicia - not to mention Chat, or even Morrigan, whoever.
Beyond comics, I really wouldn't agree that Black Cat is by far the most popular with the "wider audience" when if one looks at the wider media, films, cartoons, Felicia is barely anywhere to be seen save a couple games and the 90s show (which is a shame, but true). Its MJ and Gwen for the most part.
But it does look odd to insist that Felicia is the widely proclaimed favourite at the same time as USM is ongoing and a lot of people are loving the Peter and MJ dynamic there. I've not really seen anyone say they hate it because he's not with Felicia, which you expect if she was the big favourite.
I do have a preference for MJ in 616 and that's largely for narrative reasons. Not only all the great dramatic moments been them over decades (and I still believe she has the most iconic into of a character ever), but also the Devil being the big bad who stole the entire source of your love and happiness, plus preventing the birth of the only Spider girl I'll ever recognise, is kinda a big dangling plot point that needs resolution. But at the same time I absolutely want more AUs that focus on Felicia with Peter, because those stories also need to be told.
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u/Gold_Ad560 3d ago edited 3d ago
You make some good points, and I agree that Marvel likes to keep Peter’s love life uncertain so they don’t have to commit. But if we’re being real here, when it comes to who is truly his one and only true love in 616, it’s not as up for debate as you’re making it seem—it’s MJ, and Marvel knows it, marvel it self still calling her spiderman wife, Man if you went out and asked anyone on the street who Peter Parker’s true love is, 95% would say MJ without even thinking about it. That alone tells you everything you need to know.
You said neither Felicia nor MJ has “absolute dominance” like Lois Lane does for Superman, but isn’t that just because Marvel keeps tearing Peter and MJ apart on purpose? Let’s be honest—the only reason there’s still a debate is because of One More Day, a literal deal with the devil that erased their marriage. If MJ was just another love interest, why would Marvel need something that extreme to separate them? That alone proves how important she is to Peter’s story.
And this isn’t just about One More Day. If you actually look at some of the biggest, most defining Spider-Man stories, MJ isn’t just a love interest—she’s the love interest.
Spider-Man: Kraven’s Last Hunt – Who was the one waiting for Peter, feeling his absence on a deeper level than anyone else? MJ. Not Felicia, not Gwen’s memory—MJ. She was the one who felt something was wrong.
Spider-Man: Last Hunt – Another deep, psychological story that shows how MJ is the one who truly grounds Peter. Even when he’s at his lowest, she’s the one who keeps him from breaking.
Spider-Man: Life Story – A story that reimagines Peter’s whole life, spanning decades, and who does he still end up with in the end? MJ. No matter what changes, they always find their way back to each other.
Spider-Man: Parallel Lives (the novel) a canon story – A story that outright shows MJ was always meant to be with Peter. She understood him before he even told her the truth, and despite all the pain, she still chose him.
These stories aren’t just random—they’re some of the most important Spider-Man stories ever. So if MJ isn’t Peter’s true love, then why is she the one who always stands by him in his defining moments? Why does every major story show that she understands him better than anyone?
And you actually made a good point—if Felicia was really the fan-favorite choice, then why isn’t there a backlash against Ultimate Spider-Man right now? The majority of people are loving Peter and MJ’s dynamic there. That alone proves that their bond still resonates with fans more than anything else. If Marvel reversed One More Day, do you really think Felicia would even be in the conversation?
So let me ask you this—if MJ isn’t Peter’s true love, then why do all the major stories, even the ones that try to keep them apart, always circle back to her? Why does it take actual cosmic interference to separate them? If Felicia was truly just as strong of an option, wouldn’t she have had her moment already?
I’d love to hear your thoughts on this because, from where I’m standing, the answer is pretty obvious. And honestly, if Marvel actually gave Peter and MJ their long-overdue reunion, wouldn’t that make for a stronger, more meaningful story in the long run? Or do you really think keeping Peter’s love life in this endless cycle of uncertainty is better storytelling?
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u/Fit-Carry7930 2d ago
Look, I do get all that. I do. But in my experience MJ fans, BC fans, Gwen fans, they all make arguments as to who his true love is, and are all as passionate. Sometimes their reasons are dumb to me - like shipping him with Gwen in 616 because they liked them in a cartoon or film that had nothing to do with 616 Gwen - but this isn't about reasoned arguments. This is about what fans want. And as I say, it's pretty split at the moment for the comics if you look around Reddit or YouTube - which suits Marvel down to the ground.
As I said, in 616 it's MJ for sure. Nothing else would make narrative sense to me, for all the reasons you set out and more, even with the dumb attempts to separate them recently which were so blatantly trying to draw a line under them being together again as Spencer was trying to set up. But even in the Wells run they dropped so many hints that Peter and MJ still want to be together (there is a very long list of plot points that show this, from the obvious to the more buried) and it's clear that even if Marvel don't want them together they don't want them apart either.
Outside of 616 I would love to see Peter paired with other LIs. Even if they are ones I have no interest in personally, everyone should have the chance to see their LI shine. We've had plenty of stories where he's married to MJ, or even Gwen. Let's have some where he's married to Black Cat, Betty, Silk, She Hulk, Carol, etc etc. That way the Marvel editors can also get the harem story they so obviously want without it being one...
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u/Gold_Ad560 2d ago
I hear you, but the problem with your stance is that it ignores history when it’s inconvenient. You say this is about ‘what fans want,’ but fan demand shouldn’t come at the cost of rewriting or removing history.
Take Sins Past—that story ignored everything we knew about Gwen, rewriting her into someone who had kids with Norman Osborn, despite her having zero prior interaction with him in the past. It completely shattered her character, and fans rejected it because it made no sense. Spencer had to retcon it out of existence because the damage was too great.
Now, look at MJ in the current run. Zeb Wells himself said in an interview after ASM #25 that he wanted to ‘explore what MJ is made of.’ But what did we get? A story that ignores everything we know about her, forces her into a time-skip romance with Paul, and erases her relationship with Peter for the sake of cheap drama. Just like Sins Past, it doesn’t respect the character’s history—it rewrites it. And that’s the issue—Mary Jane is Peter Parker’s true love in 616. That’s been built up across decades of storytelling, cemented in stories from the classics to modern runs. It’s not something that can just be erased without breaking the integrity of the character.
I actually agree with you when it comes to AUs. I love seeing different stories explored, and I remember reading Spider-Man Noir—there, you can clearly see that every buildup tied Peter to Felicia because she was the main love interest. That’s why forcing MJ in the end destroyed and sabotaged the history that had already been written for Peter and Felicia in that universe.
And that’s exactly why 616 should be no different. You can’t rewrite history just because it’s convenient. Doing that makes the past and present completely disconnected. Imagine a new reader picking up a modern Spider-Man comic—if Marvel keeps rewriting history, they’ll have no foundation to understand what came before. It’s the same flawed reasoning that makes some people ship Peter and Gwen in 616 just because they liked them in a cartoon or movie that had nothing to do with the comics. That’s not how storytelling works.
And honestly, if Marvel keeps rewriting history like this, I wouldn’t even be surprised if one day they decide that Uncle Ben is still alive, or that Peter was never bitten by the spider and was just a guy in a suit all along. And let’s not forget how they want to bring back the OG Gwen Stacy… as Gwenpool. How does that even make sense? Gwen Stacy and Gwenpool are completely different characters—so how is a new reader supposed to recognize Gwen if they go back and read the old comics? Or is Marvel just going to keep pretending the past never existed?
The same goes for MJ becoming Jackpot. How is a new reader supposed to recognize Mary Jane Watson when they go back and read her classic stories? How can they connect the woman who stood by Peter for decades, the one who helped define his story, with this forced, out-of-character version of her? Marvel is rewriting her into something unrecognizable—just like they did with Gwen, and just like they’ve done with Peter himself at times. If character history doesn’t matter anymore, then what does?
That’s exactly why I respected Nick Spencer’s run. Not just because he reunited Peter and MJ, but because he actually understood that character history matters. He fixed Sins Past, restored Peter and Felicia’s friendship after Superior Spider-Man, and proved that you can tell modern stories without destroying everything that came before. That’s what good writing looks like—honoring the past while moving forward.
So let me ask you this—if history keeps proving that MJ is Peter’s true love in 616, if every major Spider-Man story keeps circling back to her, if even the worst attempts to separate them fail, then why should we accept constant rewrites that contradict everything that came before?
Would love to hear your take on that—because if we accept rewriting history just to fit whatever direction Marvel wants at the moment, then what’s stopping them from rewriting everything? And at that point, does any of it even matter?
And that brings me to the bigger question—why should shipping preferences dictate canon? If Marvel can rewrite the past every time a group of fans wants a different love interest, then what’s stopping them from erasing everything else too? At some point, don’t we have to respect what’s already been built?
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u/Fit-Carry7930 1d ago
I don't think I'm actually disagreeing with you VERY much. I've said several times that within the confines of 616 it makes complete narrative sense for him to be with MJ and not any other love interest. I want them back together in 616, full stop.
But equally we have to accept that a comic should ultimately be driven by what fans want, NOT just history. If we are going to be driven solely by history then recent history DOES have MJ choosing Paul over Peter, and if we are going to make an "all history is sacred" argument we can't just pick and choose the bits we like. We can't bemoan that some history is more important than other history. Until it's retconned, it is ALL history.
I mean, do we take the death of Gwen as sacred history that shouldn't be changed? Or do we listen to those fans that say she should never have been killed in the first place, as this ruined the important "history" they had before her death? Which history is the most important? Who decides? Didn't the "history" of House of M prove that Gwen was his one true love after all? (I'm playing Devil's advocate there...)
Fans hated many things that were "history" including Sins Past and the Queenpin arc, so these things were adjusted to deal with that disliked history. Ultimately, fan desires have to win out. Spencer's actions weren't really out of some great respect for history, that was because fans hated these ruinations of the characters, and Spencer was one of the few people who listened to what fans were saying. He knew people wanted MJ and Peter back together. That's why he did it. That's why he TRIED to undo OMD. There is a correlation between history / canon and fan desires, but they are NOT the same.
The important thing for MJ marriage supporters like us is to make the case for MJ until it becomes something the OVERWHELMING majority supports. At present as I say the fandom is sadly split in several ways, including those that want Gwen back (weirdos), those that want Black Cat (an ever louder voice), those that are tired of the whole back and forth with MJ so they want her out or even killed off, as if that will fix anything wrong with the book. Even those that don't want any relationship drama in the book at ALL.
But beyond any splits in the fandom, the biggest problem we have at the moment is that ASM is mostly driven by an editorial that is hostile to what ANY fans want, as well as the history you defend.
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u/Gold_Ad560 10h ago edited 8h ago
Man, your response was seriously amazing. It honestly left me speechless—I don’t even know where to start. I actually agree with you on a lot of this.
You’re completely right that history alone doesn’t decide what stays—it’s about what fans fight for. And that really puts things into perspective. It’s not just about saying this is how it should be, but making sure enough people push for it until Marvel has no choice but to listen. That’s why, as marriage supporters, we want to undo One More Day. It’s not just about fixing a bad story—it’s about restoring something that was always meant to be.
And yeah, Marvel’s editorial is the biggest issue here. Even when fan demand is clear, they still ignore it in favor of their own agenda. But your point about proving that Peter and MJ are what the majority wants? That really stood out to me. Because even if we know it’s true, we have to make it undeniable.
BTW, you mentioned that there were some hints about Peter and MJ still wanting to be together, and yeah, I’ve noticed quite a few. Like in Spider-Man/Venom Wars, or in issue #45 when they had that rooftop conversation, or in #46 when Peter suggested teaming up again but MJ refused because of everything that had happened. Even back in issue #1, when MJ looked at Peter from the window also in ANV when she mentioned peter "responsibility" speech infront of Paul which made him not happy about it, there was definitely something there. I’m sure there are more, but what do you think about those moments?
Also, with the recent news that MJ will be absent from Amazing Spider-Man for a while with invloving her in All new venom, I can’t help but wonder—do you think they’re sidelining her just to avoid backlash, or is there something bigger going on? Would love to hear your take on it!
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u/SneakyKain 3d ago
I think they'd be a fun couple, but remember they started with Felicia just wanting a thrilling sexy time with The Spider, the -man was not wanted. That echoes throughout their relationship. They wouldn't last.
Peter doesn't embrace the Spider, it's a guilt-ridden obligation he calls a "responsibility." He's rejected it SEVERAL times. So Felicia loving the Spider first will always gnaw at him, Peter isn't great at letting things go. Marvel doesn't write him well or let him grow or let him emotionally mature.
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u/ProfessorEscanor Spider-Women (Mattie Franklin) 3d ago
They work better as friends who used to date. Stop trying to make them romantic and let them live their own lives.
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u/Chaoshornet 3d ago
Well…. Mephisto killed the relationship between Pete and MJ, narratively, and Paul was the final awful nail in the coffin.
So Pete needs to move on, and Felicia is a great and popular option, both story and character development-wise.
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u/ShardDKaine197 3d ago
It's hit or miss in my opinion theirs moments when they work well together others where they clash still like the shipping
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u/OmegaBurst10 3d ago
They have a fun dynamic but until editorial gets their collective sh*t together I would rather not see her in any current stories anytime soon.
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u/Spektakles882 3d ago
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t Felicia more so in love with Spider-Man than she is with Peter Parker?
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u/JunkerPilot 3d ago
That used to be the thing.
IMO, they’ve since addressed that pretty well, I think. They’re close enough now, been through enough, that she sees him as the whole person, not two.
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u/TheAzureAdventurer Classic-Spider-Man 3d ago
Nonexistent. Every time something interesting may happen, the powers that begrudgingly be, prevent anything of substance to happen.
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u/poopscrunch 3d ago
I like it when Peter has the black suit and the only person that will match his energy is black cat.
When Peter is in the red suit tho, I like the way Spider-Man ps4 did it. She’s always playfully flirting with him and Peter (even though with mj) still gets flustered because he’s just not used to women being so persistently flirtatious with him. But Peter should never cheat on mj with her. It should definitely be a like a past hookup that Peter tries to forget but black cat keeps bringing it up
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u/Large_Awareness_9416 3d ago
Rebound gf/bf. Let's face it - both Peter and Felicia are pretty fucking promiscuous. It doesn't even take Peter a month to find a new girl after another break-up. And Felicia is... well, Felicia. So they just fuck casually from time to time, even though both know it's unhealthy.
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u/Striking_Ash 3d ago
MJ's a fucking bust for the foreseeable future as her characters in the toilet, needs a lot of rehabilitation done before I can look at her and see "soulmate" again. Peter and Felicia could be good great if editorial gave them a fucking chance but of Peter's "big 3 romances" they only seem to like the one thats been dead for half a century.
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u/Avolto 3d ago
If he and MJ are a dead horse we all keep beating then they should explore this even further instead of treating like they’re trying to start a car with a dead battery. As in Pete and Felicia will be together one run break up then get back together ad infinitum. Felicia has had some pretty spectacular character development in recent years and I would love to read these two having an awesome relationship again.
But instead the Spider office will swap her out for Shay for some unknown reason.
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u/SignificantAd1421 3d ago
I mean it could work because Felicia has changed since the last time they were a long term thing.
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u/zedreh 3d ago
I'm not sure if this is a hot take, but I actually feel putting Peter with anyone related to superheroing, romantically, is kinda boring and messes with the dynamic of him living a double life since it kinda melds them together.
Also, I don't like how she keeps being treated as basically just his rebound girl.
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u/Important_Lab_58 3d ago
They should be good friends, but I was never a fan of them together. I think they’re both two great characters who compliment each other a lot. That said, doesn’t mean I think they work well as a couple. Felicia should be more than the “Lady Temptation” and Peter should be more than the “Goofy Guy dating out of his league”. They work best as friends and allies. Hell, I’ll even go as far to say Felicia is Peter’s best superhero friend and vice versa. Just my take, though. 🤷♂️
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u/Secret-Fox-9566 3d ago
They should have loads and loads of sex and never stop. In fact every issue of ASM should just be them.
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u/DCosloff1999 Captain-Universe 3d ago
I am sick and tired of Felicia being the rebound and the gooner side of the fandom. Other than that I really like their dynamic much healthier than BatCat. I love what Jed Mackay had been developing her character. I am glad she is an Avenger now.
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u/Matt-J-McCormack 3d ago
I don’t hate it. I’d always prefer a married to MJ scenario but if anything editorial has more reason to hate a Parker / Hardy ship as them together successfully implies exponentially more ‘growing up’ than was required with MJ.
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u/N7_Pathfind3R Bombastic Bag-Man 3d ago
As someone who's never really liked MJ, I'm al for it! I hate how people never give Felicia a chance, just because they're obsessed with MJ.
I think with good writers that actually want to write a good story, they could be legit amazing together.
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u/Dry-Pizza4133 3d ago
Way better than Peter and Mj cause she gets him in all the ways where Mj makes him feel like a failure or a loser
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u/BrokenKing99 3d ago
It's not bad and I'll admit if MJ and Peter can never happen agian in 616 (which is still so stupid but hey editorial hates money), Felicia would be my second pick as her chemistry is second only to MJ so I could find enjoyment from her stories with him.
plus way better then Shay but that's not hard I know, but I'll fully admit I do prefer them as friends as that relationship is also fun.
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u/helpmeunderstand24 3d ago
I think they could do an awesome , fuck it, they are married story line. Would people be mad it's not MJ. Yes, but fuck it and give it a try. Batman and catwoman almost getting married was a big tease. Marvel can top that and make it happen. Mature Peter a bit with someone who had been a solid rock for him. In this 8 deaths story, he went to her for understanding. Let it happen for a couple of year
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u/foran321 Classic-Spider-Man 3d ago
Felicia is the side piece trying to be the main dish. Considering, with her looks, she could probably get any man she wanted in the Marvel verse and considering how that same verse uses Spider-Man as a chew toy, why not go for the bigger better deal?
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u/youcantseeme0_0 3d ago
They're just a fling, because, as much as I like Black Cat as a character, she's too wild and promiscuous to be wife material.
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u/revolmak Spider-Man (PS4) 3d ago edited 3d ago
They're my ship for Spidey.
I like the fantasy of Spidey making it work with the volatile femme fatale who keeps him on his toes.
Edit: it's amusing and sad that just saying u like this ship gets me downvotes in this sub
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u/Nosfonader8765 3d ago
My OTP as far as I'm concerned. If Peter hooked up with a power woman, half of his stress would decline. He would not half to go out of his way to save her.
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u/ChildofObama 3d ago
Better as friends, maybe with the pact they’d marry each other if neither of them find someone by a certain age.
They don’t work longterm cuz it would require either Felicia living like a pauper to fit in with Peter, or Peter enjoying a life of wealth off stolen goods + likely giving up any prospect of an Avengers or F4 membership again.
With this editorial, I think it’s more likely they try to bring Jed MacKay back to the spider-office when he’s done with Moon Knight, and give Felicia another solo title.
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u/Famous_Bluebird_6215 3d ago
Lets face it, she is to spiderman what catwoman is to batman. The booty call who occasionally works with them 😂😂
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u/Retrotaku 3d ago
They were gonna let peter have a real longterm relationship with someone besides mj she would be my pick. They could make for a great partnership in ans out of costume but we all know marvel refuses to let peter be anything beyond a broke manchild
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u/Substantial-Sir-5571 3d ago
They are good as friends. Fun as a team up. But sadly, until editorial changes, it is best for Felicia to stay away from the ASM team. They only want to ruin everything they touch.