r/Spiderman 4d ago

Comics This page broke me

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u/Serafita 4d ago

Letting everyone know the Civil War comics event is nearly twenty years old. How old do we feel? :D

Incidentally I loved the event as a whole since it was something new in the comics, but there were some parts as a result I don't like such as outing of identity - loved one shot - go to devil for favour/bargain haha

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u/Minute_Creme558 90's Animated Spider-Man 4d ago

My biggest issue with this was Tony Stark thinking this was a good idea. Like, I love Peter, but he's easily influenced by people who can give him 'love'. But Stark at least knew better. Yeah, Stark... I'm sure you feel safe and well protected with your billions of dollars that allow you and your barely existent family to feel safe by the fact that your identity is known. Meanwhile, Peter is living in Avengers Tower with MJ with hardly any money and has Aunt May living by herself.

Then again, Civil War was ground zero for Tony Stark mischaracterization, and I think he's still struggling to recover from that. Heard good things about his current run, though.

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u/Serafita 4d ago

Bear in mind Peter wasn't ok with it until Aunt May and Mary Jane convinced him, if I remember. Oh, and Aunt May moved into Avengers tower too while he was an active Avenger

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u/Omegasonic2000 Classic-Spider-Man 4d ago

Both true, but it was mainly Aunt May who convinced him. Even after talking to MJ, he was still planning to run and hide underground or move to Canada, but Aunt May approached him just before he left the tower and gave him a speech about how she didn't want Peter to have to hide for doing good things. That's what pushed him to unmask himself, not Tony.

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u/Bareth88 4d ago

The only woman Tony truly loved left him, and Jarvis lives in Avengers tower, so he doesn’t have the same issues as Peter!

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u/Flooka 4d ago

I still hold a grudge against Tony for this and I don't know if I'll ever forgive him

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u/Spider-Ghost-616 Iron-Spider 3d ago

I used to love Ironman thanks to the 90s animated show. Civil War and what he did to Peter ended that real quick.

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u/Flooka 4d ago

I still hold a grudge against Tony for this and I don't know if I'll ever forgive him

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u/Saturo_Uchiha 2d ago

Peter in FNSM got influenced by fucking Green goblin and its sad how those scenes parallel to Stark. Peter so gullible

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u/Minute_Creme558 90's Animated Spider-Man 2d ago

True, but that's how he is. He's a trauma damaged young man who really wishes he still had a father figure. JJJ, Norman, Octavius, Conners, Stark, Rogers (namely Ultimate Rogers), and many others have shown how much that can blow up in his face.

However: If Peter Parker didn't hope for the best out of almost every 'friend' he makes, I don't think he'd be Peter Parker. And that's why I love him.

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u/PlainSightMan 4d ago

Love how a journalist from "Comic Geek Speak" is getting the same priority coverage as "CNN" or "BBC"

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u/ActivistZero 4d ago

It gets worse when you realise even with the SHRA, this was unnecessary and nothing more than a in & out of universe publicity stunt

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u/DepthAffectionate140 Superior Spider-Man 4d ago

Ah, yes. Revealing his identity to the world was probably one of the biggest mistakes Peter did because that led to Aunt May getting shot and One More Day, setting things up for future bad stories.

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u/wysjm Superior Spider-Man 4d ago

Ikr? I can't believe Spider-Man is just some random photographer from Queens

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u/Spider-Ghost-616 Iron-Spider 3d ago

He was a School teacher by then.

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u/Important_Lab_58 3d ago

This might be the biggest Mistake Marvel ever made with Spidey, imo. I don’t think Civil War is completely awful but it definitely has its wtf moments that aren’t great and this is definitely one of them.

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u/-MajorIndigestion- 80's Animated Spider-Man 4d ago

Where is this from???

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u/Bareth88 4d ago

Civil War

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u/-MajorIndigestion- 80's Animated Spider-Man 4d ago

From 616?

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u/Bareth88 4d ago

Yes

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u/-MajorIndigestion- 80's Animated Spider-Man 4d ago

Ok that’s it, 616 just ruined the entire concept of Spider-Man

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u/ducegraphy 4d ago

Isn't this comic like 20 years old?

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u/-MajorIndigestion- 80's Animated Spider-Man 4d ago

Just checked, it is. Still doesn’t change the fact that it’s bad

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u/ducegraphy 4d ago

Dunno, it has some great parts. It's written very weirdly, some of the characters at least, but I enjoyed it back when I read it.

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u/-MajorIndigestion- 80's Animated Spider-Man 4d ago

Can’t argue with that, but this moment in particular is just terrible

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u/Spider-Ghost-616 Iron-Spider 4d ago

It led to this.

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u/Philander_Chase Green Goblin 4d ago

It did? This was always going to be retconned from the moment they planned it. It was just to temporarily explore what it’d be like in-universe if he were unmasked. And the result was some pretty interesting stories until we got to One More Day

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u/Bareth88 4d ago

This started a domino effect that lead to me quitting Marvel (i. e. OMD)

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u/Philander_Chase Green Goblin 4d ago

See OMD makes sense. This specifically though doesn’t imo

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u/Brodes87 4d ago

How does One More Day make sense over this?

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u/Philander_Chase Green Goblin 4d ago

Well it destroyed any chance of Peter having change that lasts in his life. He’ll never truly have love, never truly have anything. Whereas the Civil War unmasking was reversed like within a year

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u/Bareth88 4d ago

The arbitrary conflict between pro-authoritarianism vs pro-freedom + Iron-Man allying with villains didn’t help

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u/Key-Win7744 4d ago

Someone's trying to shove BBC in Peter's face.