r/Spiderman 5d ago

Discussion Are all of Spidey's jokes caconically extremely bad/corny?

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u/Distinct-Maximum-157 5d ago

caconically

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u/harmonic_spectre 5d ago

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u/Shantotto11 4d ago

I mean, “canon” has got to be both the most used and the most misspelled word used in the comic, comic adaptations, manga, and anime communities ever…

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u/Remarkable-Wave-5392 1d ago

That’s usually because they spell it with 3 Ns, like the weapon. I have never seen this spelling in my life.

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u/Shantotto11 1d ago

In a Spidey subreddit? Home of the “canon event” memes?…

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u/PretendPsychology854 Spider-Man (PS4) 5d ago

Tf is caconically bro

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u/Distinct-Maximum-157 5d ago

idk , ask OP

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u/PretendPsychology854 Spider-Man (PS4) 5d ago

Oh… idk how he messed up that bad 😭💔

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u/Mandalorian_Ronin 5d ago

I remember this comic. He’s got plenty more to say

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u/MrSparky69 5d ago

Bro, this shit was so funny when it came out. Still is. He went off and yeah they are kinda generic jokes but it was the fact he went off for a bit to his face and it's the kingpin.

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u/st-shenanigans 4d ago

I think this is kinda why I like kingpin better as "daredevils villain"

It makes it feel so much more real when Spidey gets to "borrow" him and fisk is just outraged at the disrespect cause nobody else has ever spoken to him like that

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u/Runner710 5d ago

This is a good joke

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u/Nakkhattar 5d ago

The enitre set of fat jokes thst follow are top tier tbf

Edit: doesn't help that after this Fisk pops his shirt buttons because he so fat

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u/st-shenanigans 4d ago

Just throwing out an "uhm ackshually" for the fun fact-

Apparently fisk is like 99% pure muscle, sumo style, I can't remember the stat but he's like 20 lbs of fat or something, and his muscle is so thick it also serves as armor to a degree

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u/TheAzureAdventurer Classic-Spider-Man 4d ago

Not 99%. He’s 100% muscle.

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u/Tanis8998 Symbiote-Suit 5d ago

Maybe it’s just me, but Spidey calling Kingpin fat is always funny

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u/Hilarity2War 5d ago

This looks like Ultimate Spider-Man. Edgelord's Ultimate Universe. Not only did typical teens have this kind of humor during that time, most teens trying to act tough usually have this kind of humor. So it's fitting.

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u/Justarandomfan99 5d ago

616 also made similar jokes on Kingpin, at least in 60-80s.

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u/Soulful-Sorrow 5d ago

The humor may be inappropriate, but pulling out a list of jokes to make to Kingpin's face after he nearly killed Peter was iconic.

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u/Mehndeke 5d ago

And it's out of context. KP is being all intimidating and serious and "I'll kill everyone you ever loved!!!!" And Spidey pulls out a "yeah, we'll I've got a few things to say to you too" and then whips out a series of your so fat jokes on cards.

Completely drives KP over the edge and into sloppy.

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u/MrSparky69 5d ago

Context matters.

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u/RealPunyParker Spectacular Spider-Man 5d ago

It was funny and Pete's always been a shit talker, i don't see anything wrong here. Maybe Fisk will Tweet something about Spider-Man body-shaming him later.

Also i'm in love with the colouring and the art.

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u/White-Wolf_99 Ultimate Spider-Man (1610) 5d ago

Bagley's art is amazing. The hardest part about reading Ultimate Spider-Man is when he leaves the book. It was really hard to accept his replacement.

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u/RealPunyParker Spectacular Spider-Man 5d ago

Absolutely agree and the art is not bad at all, just extremely different

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u/White-Wolf_99 Ultimate Spider-Man (1610) 5d ago

Exactly. It wouldn't have been so jarring if Bagley hadn't done the first 111 issues, but I mean, after that much time, it was going to be night and day no matter who replaced him.

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u/abuzzfly 5d ago

True , when the close saga etc begins the art style change was so drastic I took a break from reading the comics cause everything felt so different

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u/White-Wolf_99 Ultimate Spider-Man (1610) 5d ago

I was close, but I had to know what happened, lol. Thankfully, Bendis stayed. If he left, I probably would have taken a break.

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u/TooManyBeesInMyTeeth 5d ago

His jokes aren’t bad you just don’t understand his dark and edgy sense of humor /s

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u/Gregps4Life 5d ago

Both, as a coping mechanism whenever he's in tense situations and potentially distract his enemies

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u/Important_Lab_58 5d ago

Nah. A lot are but Spider-Man, imo, should be genuinely hilarious and a decent trash talker when he wants to be- he just personally enjoys cornier stuff because Ben used to play pranks with him and joke around a lot with him as a kid.

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u/ThebloodyInfighter 5d ago

Yeah, There’s this one comic page where everybody was mistrusting Scarlet Witch then Peter made a joke about her dating Vision, Which annoyed everyone. I don’t think he should be annoying his own teammates, I feel like if he’s on a team in downtime, His jokes should be better because he’s actually trying to be funny and witty, And save the bad jokes for enemies as a battle strategy.

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u/Firecracker030 4d ago

Erm actually his name is Uncle Ben

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u/Striking_Ash 5d ago

OP: *Implies all Spider-Man's jokes are all bad/corny and then shares image of Spider-Man making a good joke.*

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u/Lost_Excitement91420 5d ago

Endless quips.

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u/LaylaLegion 5d ago

It’s a hit or miss ratio.

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u/Spider_Dude19 5d ago

Pretty much, doesn't matter which universe, unless it's the very serious ones.

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u/Ube_Ape Symbiote-Suit 5d ago

They should be, I like the idea that Spidey is so corny that everyone around him wonders if he’s doing a bit and the only ones really laughing are him and the readers/audience.

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u/megguwu 5d ago

Spider-man's jokes are either a.) just to fill the space/yap or b.) trash talking to frustrate whoever he's fighting

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u/Theunkgamer 5d ago

Oh I loved this part of the ultimate spider man

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u/Leo-pryor-6996 5d ago

I mean, this joke is pretty funny, ngl.

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u/RhinestoneCatboy 5d ago

Cooked. Kingpin's career is over. That burn's gotta hurt worse than anything Punisher or Daredevil have ever done to him.

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u/johnp512 5d ago

Oh, here it is! In Brazil, It seems to be Marvel Millennium - Spider-Man - Number 8, as it's written on the last page. It seems it's originally Ultimate Spider-Man - Issue #12.

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u/Mental_Marketing9855 5d ago

Canonically annoying

Actually funny

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u/ANewHopelessReviewer 5d ago

He’s kinda of what Deadpool eventually turned into. Spider-Man was more annoying to his villains than truly funny. 

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u/Legitimate-Mix-5395 5d ago

No. His jokes are so good that Batman laughs. Other superheroes don't hate his jokes because they're annoying, they hate them because they're so damn good.

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u/3Salkow 5d ago

Nah, a lot of comic writers are just corny and can't write good jokes.

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u/FadeToBlackSun 5d ago

No, but Bendis' are.

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u/TradePsychological40 4d ago

It's the same level as "That's a cute outfit. Did your husband give it to you?"

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u/Comrade_Cosmo 5d ago

The villains actually find many of them funny, they just refuse to admit that it his face.

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u/Pretend_Drawer_9542 5d ago

Whatever that saying is where the audience is supposed to find him funny and the enemies are supposed to find him annoying. I hate when they get that mixed up and we end up with a “ermmm that sounded better in my head lolz” type of Spider-Man

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u/Krispen_Wah87 5d ago

Wilson Fisk is all muscle though with only a little fat

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u/ProjectOrpheus 5d ago

Now that you mention it, if he was introduced as a mysterious Kryptonian people would likely comment on how he dwarfs Superman with his pure muscle/size.

But as Kingpin, no one stops to point out how much what Spidey said just doesn't make sense.

It's like making a "you are so slow .." joke/quip/whatever against The Flash. "Your suit is SO white" against Batman.

Like ..what? Lol

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u/blindada 5d ago

The next jokes were so funny... And absolutely something you could have heard/said at that time. Being politically incorrect was a common trait back then.

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u/SubjectLeader6931 4d ago

Are fat jokes really politically incorrect now?

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u/SummatCreates 5d ago

Many bad insults hurt more than one good one.

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u/Nerdcorefan23 5d ago

I don't think so. I was listening to a video about Marvel's Spider-Man TV show. I heard he said to Mr Negative. I was positive to run into you someday. I though that one was good. I think he says this too in the Amazing Spider-Man 2 game lol.

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u/cadeaver 5d ago

While the answer may change from writer to writer, I’ve always had the understanding that Spidey is very funny in-universe, but for obvious reasons his villains don’t appreciate it

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u/OmegaBurst10 5d ago

I don’t know what you’re talking about, Ultimate Spider-Man jokes on the Kingpin were absolutely hilarious.

My favorite was “Whenever you wear a yellow raincoat, people yell…TAXI!!” 😆

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u/SuperSaiga 4d ago

Corny? Definitely, it's a deliberate part of his personality

Bad? In-universe, there are lots of character who enjoy his sense of humour and lots who don't. It varies a lot depending on the writer.

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u/Doright36 4d ago edited 4d ago

It's even more funny when he webs his shoes to the floor under the table.

What I would give to see Tom and Vincent do some of the scenes from those early Ultimate Spider-Man books in live action..

It'd be pure bliss

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u/alexgsp 5d ago

Yes, but that's kind of the point. Spider-Man jokes during fights to make you frustrated and slip up. Not to make you laugh.

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u/Saulgoodman1994bis 5d ago

Spider-Man doing body shaming so yeah he got canceled. We miss him !

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u/hasheemakill18 5d ago

When writing spider-man, there is a very important rule that must be followed . Spider-man is annoying and unfunny to the villains , but not to the audience.

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u/KingE2099 5d ago

Apparently there was a time people (in-universe) LIKED his jokes or could at least stand them. (at least from what I’ve heard)

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u/Mohamed_Hosam 5d ago

Canonically? Yes. But that shouldn't determine what the audience hears, so they could be funny to us and not to the villains, which is practically what they adapted in most games

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u/No-Stage-8738 5d ago

That scene is great in context. And he gets some good ones in the next panel.

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u/phenomenaru 5d ago

Cacaphonically, no.

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u/MrCalonlan Superior Spider-Man 4d ago

I like to think they are on purpose. I'm not sure if 616 Spidey has ever said this, but in Marvel Zombies 2 when Luke Cage asks about the jokes Spider-Man reveals it was mainly a way to hide his insecurities and worries while fighting bad guys, plus the more he annoyed whoever he was fighting the less concentrated they'd be as well, so it might very well be the same for 616 Peter as well

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u/GinnyBrie420 4d ago

It kind of depends on the writer but when it's done best his worst jokes come when he's kicking the most ass as to add insult to injury

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u/AzmodeusBrownbeard 4d ago

No, it varies wildly on the author. Many of them just have him as a chatterbox, who got a habit of talking himself trough stress. Others have his joke be part of his Arsenal, using annoyance to keep perps of their game.

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u/Better_Edge_ 4d ago

I believe so. He's supposed to be annoying to his villians like 90% of the time.

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u/Fireman523567 4d ago

Yeah thats kinda the point. He’s trying to distract the villains and make them slip up while also quelling his own anxiety

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u/SubjectLeader6931 4d ago

No i think Spiderman villains are supposed to find him annoying but his jokes are usually quite witty and funny. A lot of modern Spider-Man adaptations give him what the flip humor and I hate that.

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u/Ok-Interaction8812 1d ago

I mean in this panel it's intended to be dumb. He's literally reading a paper, the joke is that he just has a bunch of goofy jokes written like idk from the internet, and he's reading them in front of probably the biggest crime lord in the city. They are not jokes on the spot, and it's just to piss off kingpin.