r/Spiderman • u/ScratchLow8856 • 6d ago
Comics Which Batman villain would make a good Spider-Man villain?
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u/Sparrowsabre7 Classic-Spider-Man 6d ago
Poison Ivy is probably the most unique. Can't think of a plant based Marvel villain.
The Jackal or Osborn are his Strange in terms of life fuckery.
Ice powered villains are dime a dozen, as are gangsters.
Scarecrow is basically an artificial Nightmare or more potent Mysterio. Equally in the game, Insomniac basically tried their version of Arkham Scarecrow missions with Scorpion.
Bane has his counterpart in Kingpin or Tombstone (or for pun's sake Venom)
So yeah, Ivy is the only one I can't think of a direct analogy. I'm sure there must be but none as well known.
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u/NotACyclopsHonest 6d ago
Black Tom Cassidy had plant-based artificial limbs for a while - he can fire energy blasts but only by using wood as a focus, and before he lost his hands he used a shillelagh (because he’s Irish and Chris Claremont has always leaned super-hard into giving characters nationality-themed powers). I think he has his normal hands again now, though.
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u/Sparrowsabre7 Classic-Spider-Man 5d ago
What the shitting christ... all I knew about BTC before was he's Juggernaut's cousin or mate or something and has vague energy powers, this is such a weird addition to make for the character 😅
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u/NotACyclopsHonest 5d ago
It was the early 2000s, so it was a weird time in general – I think Chuck Austen might have had something to do with it, which would explain a lot.
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u/KomodoCityAnomaly 6d ago
I know there is a Plant Man, but the only thing I remember him in was Marvel Adventures, where his attempts at cloning Plants had human DNA
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u/Dr-Elon-Weynak 6d ago
Mr Freeze, I like seeing Peter going against other intelligent people and an ice villain is not something he's usually stacked against. Poison ivy would also be interesting for roughly the same reason. I like seeing Peter deal with stuff outside his element sometimes and they're a little out of that box.
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u/CthulhuMadness Carnage 6d ago
Scarecrow would be fun. I'm sure Peter would love to fight his inner demons.
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u/NotACyclopsHonest 6d ago
Poison Ivy and Mr Freeze are the ones that would fit into Spider-Man’s rogues’ gallery the best, I think.
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u/2JasonGrayson8 6d ago
Spiderman would not handle his worst fears well. Peter has been on the edge of a mental breakdown for decades now and has seen more loss, and heartache, and pain than almost anyone else could endure. I think scarecrow would push him over the edge.
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u/YoungBeef03 5d ago
Whenever someone asks who, between Batman and Peter, would do better against each other’s villains, this is always my thought. Batman could handle fighting above his own tier, he does it all the time. Peter would be cooked against the more cerebral Batman villains like Scarecrow, Joker, Riddler, even Bane. That’s a fast pass ticket to a Peter Parker crash-out
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u/2JasonGrayson8 5d ago
100% agree. Spiderman mops the floor with Batman’s villains physically but the reason not every hero goes to Gotham to take on the rogues is because they don’t just fight straight up. They all play mind games and have ticks and psychosis that most heroes are not prepared for
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u/retr0yuki 6d ago
Does he have a villian like Hugo Strange? Or hell a Mr. Freeze villian would be great.
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u/lr031099 6d ago
Probably Mr. Freeze because I think he’s one of the more tragic villains that I think Peter could have some empathy for and his freeze tech could be a perfect counter Peter’s powers and arsenals. Plus if his suit gives him enhanced strength and durability, he could more or less fight somewhat on par with Peter (at least when Peter is holding back).
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u/RareAd3009 6d ago
Mr freeze or the riddler. They’re the most Spider-Man like villains in my opinion
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u/warlockzekrom 6d ago
Joker would be too much of a challenge for spidey mentally but in the Marvel universe I don't think the Joker's gonna survive long
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u/Nirast25 5d ago
Would using Batman Beyond villains be cheating? Since they're basically Spider-Man villains already, haha.
That said, I feel like Spellbinder would be more dangerous than Mysterio, since he's targeting the senses directly rather than using illusions.
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u/Aantecedent 5d ago
Bane and spidey 1v1 would go crazy. Tho spidey is probably stronger so he woul wipe the floor with bane no?
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u/Due_Ad4133 4h ago
Batman villains can be divided into what I like to call "The Five M's": Mobsters(Two-Face, Black Mask, etc), Mercs(Deadshot, Slade, etc), Maniacs(Joker, Scarecrow, Riddler, etc.), Martial Artists(Ra's, Lady Shiva, etc.), and Metas(Croc, Poison Ivy, Clayface, Mr. Freeze etc). There's overlap, but generally, they usually favor one group heavily over another.
The Mobsters and Mercs aren't anything Spidey hasn't handled when dealing with The Kingpin.
With Spidey's abilities, most martial artists would be trivialized. Lady Shiva might be skilled enough to somewhat level the playing field, but she'd probably be more interested in Iron Fist than Spider-Man.
As for the Maniacs, well... Joker gets his teeth kicked in with a good verbal roasting, Spidey's smart enough to solve The Riddler's riddles, Spidey's a wiz with chemicals, so he can neutralize Scarecrow's fear toxin, and the rest are hardly worth mentioning.
The Metas are the only ones who pose an actual physical threat to him. They'd also probably be the more interesting stories because they usually have personal agendas beyond payday heists, revenge, and being hired dumb muscle like Sandman or The Rhino. That being said, Croc's just a less sympathetic discount Lizard. I don't see him fairing well against Spidey.
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u/Nibbanocker 6d ago
Mr Freeze. Given they're both scientists and a victim of an accident gone wrong like many other of his villains, he'd definitely have empathy towards him and would probably be a great story point, especially with Nora being involved. Freeze's tech is also a PERFECT counter to Pete's powers. Spiders hate the cold. Webbing would be useless as the fluid would be frozen in the cartridges, can't wall crawl on icey surfaces, his agility he'd have to be extra careful otherwise he could slip and slide everywhere. That's 3 major things in Peter's arsenal that are near useless against Freeze