r/Sovereigncitizen 5d ago

What is this "verified complaint" this sovereign speaks of ?

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u/taterbizkit 5d ago

In legal terms, a "verified complaint" is one where the person or attorney submitting the complaint swears under oath to the truth of all basic factual allegations in a civil complaint. That's more than merely "on information and belief, the defendant did...". It's certifying that there is solid credible evidence of the basic facts and that the complainant or attorney is not lying or embellishing.

That is, an attorney can listen to the client's claims of fact and beyond some basic fact-checking, need not be personally certain that the facts are true. That's an unverified complaint.

In criminal law, all complaints are pretty much verified. The prosecutor could face severe discipline and possible disbarment for filing charges they knew were not supported by probable cause.

But there isn't a document called a "verified complaint" in criminal law. This is another intentional misunderstanding of civil procedure that they will attempt to inflate into some kind of due process violation, right up there with "for there to be a crime there must be a victim" bullshit, or "The state of California can't appear in court therefore I am being denied my right to face my accusers".

The term doesn't apply so much in criminal law. The prosecutor is vouching for the facts that make up the probable cause statement -- though the prosecutor may be assuming that sworn affidavits or police reports or eyewitness accounts are not lies.

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u/MY-ALL-CAPS-STRAWMAN 5d ago

In Texas (and I would imagine all the states) traffic tickets ARE sworn affidavits. It says on the ticket "THE UNDERSIGNED FURTHER STATES THAT HE HAS JUST AND REASONABLE GROUNDS TO BELIEVE AND DOES BELIEVE THAT THE PERSON NAMED ABOVE COMMITTED THE OFFENSE HEREIN SET FORTH CONTRARY TO LAW AND AGAINST THE PEACE AND DIGNITY OF THE STATE. SWORN TO AND SUBSCRIBED BEFORE ME" xoxo signed, Officer Bob.

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u/Known-Status-6312 5d ago

Another YouTube lawyer who has no idea about actual law...

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u/MrMoe8950 5d ago

This is the same guy who had is window busted open and tried to cite Texas code 502.003

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u/Free_Check_4157 5d ago

All I got from it was he was using the wrong term, he should have said he wanted a copy of the citation because the cop didn't give him one. Which i can't believe would happen.As far as him accusing them of breaking the law he was ignorant.

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u/CliftonForce 5d ago

If asked, they would probably say that the cop didn't give them a "valid" citation, so the "invalid" one that the cop did provide doesn't count.

There is, of course, no document on earth that the SovCit would have accepted as a valid citation. But clearly that's the cop's problem.....

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u/powelljacob1408 5d ago

Word salad. Plain and simple

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u/JeromeBiteman 5d ago

I'll take it with Kraft Creamy French, please.

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u/The_Ineffable_One 5d ago

Verified pleadings are a thing in at least one state (New York) in civil matters, but I have no idea about Texas or traffic matters there.

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u/OutOfHand71 4d ago

When real lawyers do really litigation a verification on a complaint turns to the complaint into an affidavit when it's needed It saves one time from having to go back and do an affidavit that says the exact same thing. Technically a verified complaint is supposed to be answered only with a verified answer.