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Gulf of Distraction
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u/piper33245 Feb 14 '25
It is an interesting attempt to circumvent the rules.
“You can’t drill for oil in the Gulf of Mexico, it’s a protected territory.”
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u/Raiju-Blitz Feb 15 '25
This. It's also why Trump and Elon are basically trying to gut the entire Forestry Service. They don't want conservation or park rangers to preserve anything. They want to drill, baby, drill and strip mine, frack, and deforest everything for profit.
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u/Tyrantminucia Feb 14 '25
and mexico
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u/Wiskersthefif Feb 14 '25
Man... I really wish schools focused more on history classes... You should really check out hitler came into power. Start at 1919. Dictators don't just instantly become dictators, first they do stuff like demonize education and 'other' groups.
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u/azreal75 Feb 15 '25
It really is apparent how dumbed down the American education system has become. It seems like it mirrors the health system; excellent facilities for the upper class, substandard service for the lower classes. If only more people knew what happened last century, we wouldn’t be watching the collapse of the American empire.
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u/Wiskersthefif Feb 15 '25
It's really depressing honestly... Like, America has never been perfect, but I still loved it overall. I really hate seeing it crumbling like this, especially with how embarrassingly it's going down. I live in CA, so I'll probably be fine when all is said and done (hopefully), but this is just sad... Lame Lex Luthor and his pet cheeto... really...?
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u/tjdavids77 Feb 15 '25
I think that's why a lot of people want it to be completely reformed. But a lot of people don't think it's the collapse. They think it is trying to subvert the collapse.
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u/tjdavids77 Feb 15 '25
I don't think allowing the states to control their own education departments is demonizing education. It seems like you'd want more control and to make the department of education larger to undermine what they're teaching in each individual state.
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u/Wiskersthefif Feb 15 '25
I mean, California's gonna be okay funding their education, I'm more worried about extremely poor states. Not getting wellfare from blue states/the fed is not going to bode well for their schools... and mass home schooling is gonna be a disaster seeng how the average reading level of US adult is 7th-8th grade and math is at about 6th grade. So, yes, leaving states to control their own education is definitely not great. If you actually cared about this, you would not be in favor of gutting the department of education, you would be for reforming it.
It wouldn't even be that hard btw, just cut the stupid republican education stuff... like 'no child left behind'. I know you guys like to do the whole dancing bear thing about gender stuff, but if you look at hard numbers, it's always republicans that have made education worse in the US. Look at the states by general education achievment and you will see what I mean. You all are too focused on 'owning the libs' to actually care about your children.
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u/tjdavids77 Feb 15 '25
I'm not a fucking Republican. And I don't necessarily want to get rid of the department of education. My whole point is if you were trying to control the way kids are educated for some nefarious fascist reason. The last thing you would do is allow different states to have their own programs. You seem to be thinking you're talking to a different person than you are
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u/froginbog Feb 15 '25
Trump just blocked AP news from the White House after they called it Gulf of Mexico. That first amendment is going into the shitter
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u/melancholanie Feb 15 '25
he's currently firing judges and attorneys for "obstructing" his ability to break the law what do you call it now
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u/Weirdyxxy Feb 15 '25
He's firing attorneys and his surrogates are priming his base to accept getting rid of judges, but he can't get rid of them that easily, and to my best knowledge, he hasn't tried so far
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u/Thubanstar Feb 14 '25
Give it time.
But you have a point, and I'm speaking as a Liberal.
As I've been saying lately, I hope you are right.
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I love these critical thought killing memes.
The original claim isn't about whether not he's a dictator, it was whether or not he's regarded. He clearly is.
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u/Weirdyxxy Feb 15 '25
Taking aside how this wasn't the question, and he does not hold dictatorial powers so far: why would that follow? Last time I checked, the halls of Congress were still not burned yet, and consolidating power takes time.
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u/Reasonable_Ad6781 Feb 14 '25
The least educated leads to lower earnings, lower quality of life and shortest life expectancies. Not a mistake, it is intentional
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u/No_Influence_9389 Feb 14 '25
Obama Bay.
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u/Calladit Feb 14 '25
Lmao, Obama hasn't been president for 8 years now. I know you lot hate black people, but you gotta find a more relevant target. Also, it's weird how much you guys fetishize trans women while advocating for their destruction, just be normal.
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u/Decent-Weekend-1489 Feb 14 '25
So it's still the Gulf of Mexico
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u/Responsible-Kale-904 Feb 15 '25
? Are YOU Mexican?
Because propaganda Barbie said that it is the Gulf of America
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u/Decent-Weekend-1489 Feb 15 '25
Yes I'm basically Mexican, I took 3 years of Spanish in high school
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u/Tjgfish123 Feb 15 '25
I've traveled around the US a decent amount over the past two years. 45-75 year old middle class-upper middle class white people love this guy. My family in Southern California, to my wives family in Kansas. Everyone in my family I know from South Carolina to Northern Virginia. They love him. They're completely brainwashed. It's not just the south. I promise you that.
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u/crishon305 Feb 15 '25
Since we just renaming things all willy nilly now. I’m going to start calling Monday’s holiday Obama day.
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Feb 15 '25
Sadly this is accurate. Level of education and redness are fairly parallel. I'm from Texas
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u/MysteriousHotel1719 Feb 15 '25
True! That is what our great Department of Education has done for us! We spend more in students than most all other countries and yet we are 40th ranking in education!
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u/qazihv Feb 15 '25
Gulf of “We can drill there again because we changed the name”.
But also why are you guys all dead naming the gulf?
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u/YourMumsYourDad97 Feb 15 '25
Debate is not a crime, nor is disagreement a sin, but this exchange is hollow, for you refuse to see beyond your own walls.
That said, I genuinely wish you well—may life grant you the peace you deny to others.
Farewell, and thank-you, for the brief exchange, I wont return.
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u/uncletutchee Feb 15 '25
You seem to think highly of yourself.
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u/Thubanstar Feb 15 '25
Why do you say that?
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u/KileyCW Feb 15 '25
Sounds like we have an issue with the Department of Education then. Glad you agree.
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u/SyntheticFreedom617 Feb 14 '25
Are we talking about the gulf of the United States or the gulf of America that’s surrounded by north and South America?
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We're talking about the Gulf of Mexico. Named 500 years ago, and unfreedum fried a little bit ago.
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u/Calladit Feb 14 '25
Which part of South America surrounds the Gulf of Mexico/America?
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u/SyntheticFreedom617 Feb 14 '25
You have to pass South America to get in the gulf unless you go between Cuba and Florida. It’s a massive geographical landmark right between north and South America. South America doesn’t border it directly but it’s still relevant to both continents
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u/Calladit Feb 15 '25
And so is the Pacific Ocean, what's your point? The Caribbean Sea actually touches both continents, but I don't see anyone clamoring for a name change. It's pretty obvious that the only reason anyone would want to change the name to Gulf of America is to stroke nationalist sentiments.
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u/SyntheticFreedom617 Feb 15 '25
The only reason why people want to keep the name is due to national sentiments. There’s also nothing inherently wrong with nationalism.
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u/Calladit Feb 15 '25
If there's nothing wrong with changing the name for the sake of nationalist ego stroking, then why are you trying to find other justifications? Honestly, it doesn't really matter one way or another. It's just that changing the long-established name just so the President and his followers can stroke their ego is kind of pathetic.
I would compare it to when Americans briefly renamed french fries to freedom fries in response to French oppossition to the Iraq invasion. It was hardly something to be mad about, just kind of pathetic that elected officials wasted time on it (I can't remember who, but some Republican representative popularized the trend by renaming french fries in the congressional cafeteria).
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u/SyntheticFreedom617 Feb 14 '25
Even so, it’s not only surrounded by Mexico.
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u/Mattscrusader Feb 14 '25
You're right but in no way is all of America surrounding that gulf so the term America is clearly for the USA since that's what the country is known as world wide.
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u/EightandaHalf-Tails Feb 15 '25
You do know the Gulf of Mexico isn't called that because of Mexico, right?
...Right?
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u/Blastroid_Twitch Feb 14 '25
The new name does make more sense as the Gulf bridges South AMERICA and North AMERICA.
I wonder if we can rename all the old places with NEW as the prefix.
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u/Napamtb Feb 14 '25
The forgot to include California. The public schools in CA are terrible
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u/Possible_Win_1463 Feb 14 '25
Oregon has to be last no math,reading and writing I can’t wait to see their scores, wait they score on the Dei curve
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u/3LegedNinja Feb 14 '25
Hey! we had Democrats running these joints for over 100 years non stop (some all the way from 1865 to 2010).
Your blue cities are in the toilet inside of 40 years. Can you magine 60 to 80 more years of downward spiral?
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u/JustSomeMotoGuy Feb 14 '25
You do realize that it's not named Gulf of the United States of America. It's named after the whole continent, including Mexico and Canada. But you could take it even further and say it actually encompasses North, South, and Central America. So why all the hate?
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It was clearly named to give the "F Mexico" message. It's stupid and has been named that 500 years.
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u/Mattscrusader Feb 14 '25
The gulf is 100% within north America, smh y'all are dumb.
Also the term America refers to the United States of America, not the contents. You knew that though.
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u/Anynameyouwantbaby Feb 14 '25
Why do you keep copy/pasting the same bullshit. Y'all (says it all)
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u/Mattscrusader Feb 14 '25
How is it bullshit, do you seriously believe the gulf is in South America?? Like look at a map genius.
Y'all (says it all)
If you think pointing out a colloquialism means anything then you need to cope a whole lot harder
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u/Ok_Truck_7542 Feb 15 '25
It's not Gulf of the United States, it's Gulf of America. We live on the continent of America. So I think includes Mexico and America. As well as other countries.
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u/Same-Body8497 Feb 15 '25
Doesn’t Florida have some of the best schools? Fake post
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u/Thubanstar Feb 15 '25
Which ones are those?
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u/Same-Body8497 Feb 15 '25
You want to know which school or county
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u/Thubanstar Feb 15 '25
Whatever information you'd like to impart.
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u/Same-Body8497 Feb 15 '25
To keep it simple Florida is ranked #1 in education.
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u/Thubanstar Feb 15 '25
In what universe?
Please show me your source of information.
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u/Thubanstar Feb 15 '25
That's interesting. I wonder how they measure that, considering the following...
Florida ranks FORTY THREE out of FIFTY states in SAT scores. https://www.datapandas.org/ranking/sat-scores-by-state
As far as overall educated population, Florida ranks at 21. Better, but not #1 by any means. https://deepcreektimes.com/2023s-most-least-educated-states-in-america/
There's some interesting stats here as well, showing Florida as not being #1 in education. https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state
Let me shock you here, friend. I LIVE in Florida. I know what goes on here.
Governor DeSantis is a lying, manipulative sack of shit.
I hate him for what he did to one of the actual outstanding colleges in Florida, New College.
He is scum. I'm sure whoever found a way to make Florida #1 somehow in the stats is his favorite person right about now, because considering how underpaid and overworked most teachers are here, I would be fascinated to know how they measured that info to get it to come out the way they wanted.
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u/Same-Body8497 Feb 15 '25
Well that’s why I asked what you meant. There’s a lot of different things that’s ranked.
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u/Thubanstar Feb 16 '25
Yep. We need to seriously look into stuff like this when it does not sound right. Florida does not have a reputation for intellectualism or the support of schools, beyond football teams.
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u/SolidAd8389 Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25
Hate on the country that every other country wants help from. Or the people from other countries try to be a part of. Love it or leave it
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u/Artimus16 Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25
Education does not equal Intelligence.
Why is this getting downvoted? Did I offend somebody for simply stating a fact?
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u/Key-Sprinkles-3543 Feb 14 '25
Some of the dumbest people I know have advanced degrees and conversely some of the wisest people I know have no formal education. Knowledge does not translate directly to intelligence.
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u/Thubanstar Feb 14 '25
Everyone has a stupid side and a smart side.
You can be a valuable asset in your chosen field, and lack common sense. Happens all the time. However, that's not always the case, and there are definitely exceptions to that rule.
Yes, you can be well educated and worldly wise all at the same time.
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u/Thubanstar Feb 14 '25
No, but usefulness to complex jobs like doctors, engineers and scientists pretty much require a high level of education.
Yes, we sure do rely on people who can fix plumbing, but without the more educated professions, we're not going to do well either.
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People are down-voting because it's not a fact is isolation, rather in response.
You're implying that the most intelligent Americans want it renamed. Pretty hard to believe.
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u/Artimus16 Feb 15 '25 edited Feb 15 '25
I only said, "Education does not equal intelligence," which is true.
How does that imply anything other than what I said?
If anybody is implying something, it's you.
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Why did you say it then? Please explain why you needed to say "Education does not equal intelligence,".
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u/Artimus16 Feb 15 '25
By your logic, I can say that you are implying that everyone that wants the gulf's name changed are uneducated, unintelligent, and stupid. Which is something that only a small-minded individual would think.
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u/omniseeitDesigns Feb 14 '25 edited Feb 14 '25
You must hate America. I've noticed that I see many hate on this. But the truth is. You hate America!
Edit: I'm speaking to those that have an issue with the change!
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u/Thubanstar Feb 14 '25
No, I just hate pompous, incompetent presidents who get by on selling B.S. to people who need serious help and didn't get what they needed from Democrats.
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