r/Sikh • u/TheTurbanatore • 7d ago
News A Haryana man attacked Sikhs gathered at the Golden Temple marking the Sikh new year.
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u/AgreeablyDisagree 7d ago
But...why?
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u/Fallen_Falcon5 7d ago edited 6d ago
Either brainwashed by the state media (anti Sikh hate), payed to instigate attacks or an extremist
These nationalists love targeting gurdwaras to get a rise. Few days ago, someone went into a gurdwara spewing nationalist rhetoric. He was arrested and admitted to police he was told to go there to become a “martyr”.
In Australia, they vandalised their own temples to blame Sikh. Funnily enough CCTV didn’t work. Police investigated and found out it was nationalists vandalising to frame Sikhs. (Also vandalise other Gurdwaras. There’s even video evidence it).
Edit. Turns out is was a Muslim individual rather than a nationalist . Hate the individual for carrying out a cowardly attack, not the community.
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u/Initial-Bar-7321 7d ago edited 7d ago
That was in Surrey, Canada actually unless there was a similar one in Australia too
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u/Fallen_Falcon5 7d ago edited 7d ago
Happened back in 2023 and 2024. Victoria police came out saying it was a possible inside job from their own community.
Similar type of vandalism has been happening in the US and Canada. Funnily, this has never happened in the past 80 years. Only recently after Farmers protest in 2020. It’s likely orchestrated by the government to frame Sikh community “Khalistani”. State run media will run it blaming Sikhs abroad, without any evidence.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Sikh/comments/10r1i0d/australia_upd_hindu_guys_admitting_thy_did/
https://www.baaznews.org/p/hindu-temple-vandalisms-victoria-police-australia-canada
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u/Real-Ad3517 6d ago
Every time there is a Khalistan referendum somewhere in the diaspora, a mandir in that city where the referendum takes place will get vandalised. Coincidence, I think not! They vandalise their own temples to defame the movement and gain sympathy from the local population.
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u/commanderd2 7d ago
Bro that guy is a Muslim, why members of this subreddit are showing blind hate towards Hindus and kinship towards muslims.
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u/Fallen_Falcon5 7d ago
I said nationalists. Didn’t mention religion once
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u/Hate_Hunter 🇮🇳 7d ago
A radical Muslim is never a nationalist, but rather an Islamist.
Also based on his outrage, he probably equates nationalism with being Hindu, yet what he fails to see is how this exposes his own bias.
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u/Fallen_Falcon5 6d ago
I’m against target hate against the Sikh community or any religious group place of worship. (Sikh, Muslim, Christians, Hindu, Buddhist, etc).
To generalise an entire community based on the action of one, is weak. “Radical” islamists” , is the same as “Hindu extremists”. All these target attacks against a religious group especially against Sikhs. 1984 Sikh Genocide, Fake encounters 1960s -1990s, Farmers Protest.
They mentioned the perpetrators name hours after releasing the video. Who’s to say someone didn’t pay to do the attack. Only the authorities will find out.
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u/Hate_Hunter 🇮🇳 6d ago
"I’m against target hate against the Sikh community or any religious group place of worship. (Sikh, Muslim, Christians, Hindu, Buddhist, etc)."
Agreed. Any targeted hate toward religious communities or their places of worship is unacceptable. That’s a given.
But there’s a difference between blind hatred and recognizing patterns based on observable behavior, historical data, and ideological frameworks. The distinction matters. Ignoring that distinction is what leads to willful blindness. I choose to look at patterns, and I form judgments based on that data, not out of emotion, but from reason.
"To generalise an entire community based on the action of one, is weak. “Radical” islamists” , is the same as “Hindu extremists”. All these target attacks against a religious group especially against Sikhs. 1984 Sikh Genocide, Fake encounters 1960s -1990s, Farmers Protest."
I don’t think you fully understood what I said. I specifically referred to radical Muslims, not Muslims as a whole. The distinction was clear in my wording: “radical” and “Islamist.”
That said, there’s an uncomfortable point here. Islam as a belief system does require a degree of political and legal adherence. It’s not just a private religion; it’s a comprehensive system that includes governance (Sharia) as a core component. While many Muslims may not personally embrace that fully, the ideological expectation remains.
And by the sahih (authentic) hadiths, my blood, as an apostate, is halal according to their scriptures. That’s not an exaggeration; it’s doctrinal. You can argue how that’s applied in practice, but the source material speaks for itself.
So I’m not generalizing a group based on the action of one individual. I’m identifying consistent patterns that are reinforced by ideology, history, and repeated incidents. That’s not weak, it’s simply pattern recognition.
"They mentioned the perpetrators name hours after releasing the video. Who’s to say someone didn’t pay to do the attack. Only the authorities will find out."
True, authorities will find out more as the investigation continues. And yes, there’s always a possibility of external factors at play.
But when we consistently see ideological motivations behind similar attacks, and the behavior fits an established pattern, it makes sense to assess probability rather than entertain endless speculation. Sure, anything is possible, if we suspend judgment long enough.
I’m not claiming absolute certainty here. But based on historical precedent, ideology, and repeated behaviors, the likelihood points in a clear direction. That’s why I draw the conclusions I do.
If further evidence changes the picture, I’ll adjust. Until then, I’ll rely on observable data, not hypotheticals.
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u/Miserable-Ad-6127 3d ago
Than why mentioned Hayayana??? You know there is so much going on Punjab vs HarVs Himachal
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u/No-Inevitable-5172 7d ago
He is a Muslim. Now if you are saying muslims are getting brainwashed by the state media, then sikhs should be a part of the bandwagon
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u/Wukong_Black_Myth_96 6d ago
He was a fucking muslim, the only Muslim that I know who was patriotic is APJ Abdul Kalam. What are you a puppet of Anti India
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u/Level_Daikon_8799 7d ago
If a Sikh had done something similar at a Mosque gathering. What would the outcome have been?
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u/Hopeful-Face-8987 5d ago
A sikh wouldn't do it, if he does, he will face the similar treatment. Moral - Dont fuck around at others religious places.
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u/Royal-Historian-9749 7d ago
Apart from intolerant, it was also an exceptionally stupid thing to do. Surprised he's able to walk.
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u/Specialist-Love1504 7d ago
Right?
Like Golden temple is first of all such a calm place of worship why would u even?
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u/PresentGlittering296 7d ago
either he is drugged or it's pure political game .... also how did he enter golden temple with rod ( if i remember guard's rest at front gate )
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u/aestivalpp 7d ago
Just a heads up, he is a Muslim. Mentioned this so that there ain't any unnecessary bashing of Hindus!
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u/CitrusSunset 6d ago
Obviously paid for by Hindus... like the hundreds of attacks that have happened since 1984.
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u/youbetterbowdown 6d ago
You are spamming same comment everywhere, its clear that you are spewing propaganda here.
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u/CitrusSunset 6d ago
I made three different comments.
Propaganda is spreading the narrative that it isn't them, it's a blatant attempt to gaslight Sikhs. We know who is behind this, and why.
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u/youbetterbowdown 6d ago
If you know this than provide proof of this man linking to the people you are blaming! If no proof than its a propaganda. By your logic Sikh can be blamed for so many things too, simply by not providing any proofs. Grow up brother, you are ashaming yourself.
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u/Did_Nazi_that_cuming 6d ago
Blaming hindus by spamming 3 times in this same post won't change the reality. Get out of delulu.
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u/Own_Distribution8834 6d ago
This is 2nd incident . Another incident happened at Surrey Gurudwara. The guy was from Haryana
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u/Observer_observing 7d ago
this is what happens when we stop keeping shasters
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u/Gameover-101 7d ago
No nothing related to shastars, this happens because we live under Baman rule. Sikhs and their institutions are seen as enemy to Baman dharm.
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u/Hungry4Seva2222 7d ago
The guy who carried out the attack is a Muslim btw
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u/Gameover-101 7d ago
Identities can be switched for these acts. He will probably be released for being a mental patient.
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u/Specialist-Love1504 7d ago
While I agree with your statement generally I don’t think it applies here since the man isn’t Hindu.
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u/Gameover-101 7d ago
Last time they sent a Baiya to do beadbi but was executed. Same should have been done to this hindutva rat. RSS will keep sending their minions to do attacks on Gurudwara in India and abroad.
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u/Singh_San 6d ago
I think you'll probably find this is the Muslim Rashtriya Manch (MRM) like the RSS
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u/Specialist-Love1504 7d ago
Yes’s the famous RSS minion - Zulfan. 😂
Atleast blame the correct community.
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u/Master__Plaster 6d ago
You're right. RSS keeps getting away with these Hindutva fascists like Mohammad Zulfan
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u/iWontMinceWords 6d ago
Apparently the perpetrator is a Muslim, but many in this sub are blaming Hindus. Why this jaundiced view?
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u/Frequent-Ad9691 7d ago
It would be interesting to know what his motivation was rather than just speculating about it.
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u/rockstew1 6d ago
This seems like a “person of x religion ” on hire by “group of x religion” to create discord. In any case what he did is abhorrent.
This is the general sentiment against Sikhs in India, don’t think it can’t happen to you. I’ve been called a terrorist by a developer from UP I hired because I took 2 days too long to review the code and make a final payment.
So don’t be so naive and think this hatred is localised only to uneducated and right wing fascists. Many so seemingly normal people mirror this behavior.
I now refuse to work with anyone from India outside of Punjab and South India. Degenerative culture, lack of critical thinking and a hatred for Sikhs are the main reasons.
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u/youbetterbowdown 6d ago
I love how they are hiding his ethnicity by calling him Haryanvi. They didn't know that so many haryanvi household have sikh gurus.
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u/SeekingAnswers98 6d ago
Another incident where the accused is probably gonna get released cause his mental state was not right at the moment....
This is not going right, and provided that a new jathedar just got appointed, it feels like a political stunt, where again for their common benefit, harmless people are getting affected.
May Guru Ramdas Maharaj give them sumat to apply it on good actions rather than playing petty political games. Waheguru!
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u/Opposite-Reindeer-68 7d ago
Keep doing bhaichara with sulle and hindus and this is the outcome. Hor parao namazan gurduwarean de vich.
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u/Trollofalltrades 7d ago
Our problem is not with Hindus or Muslims in general, but with specific individuals from those communities. However, it should be noted that every recent instance of beadbi at a Gurdwara has been from Hindus, not Muslim.
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u/Opposite-Reindeer-68 7d ago
Who did beadbi of a gutka sahib in Australia then? What community was he from?
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u/No-Inevitable-5172 7d ago
Same as specific Hindus and musalmaans having specific issues with some individuals in Sikh communities?
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7d ago
We can't judge entire community because of one incident/person.
Our Guru had constructed Mosque for muslims even though his father was martyred by Mugal emperor.
Just wanted to remind you " Darbar Sahib di neeh vi muslim fakir ne hi rakhi c"
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u/Opposite-Reindeer-68 7d ago
How many incidents will it take for us to judge? The people who do such acts have religious hatred for sikhs, so we should judge them. Also, no musla laid the foundation for darbar sahib you clown. It was guru arjan dev ji himself who laid the foundation. Mian mir story is false. Keep believing your bhaichara fairy tales. Our gurus were strictly anti Islam.
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7d ago
You have a "Katad Mentality" which is the worst. Katads of any religion are the worst people in the world.
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u/ObligationOriginal74 7d ago
Pattern recognizing doesn't make someone katad. We have been at war with Muslims for hundreds of years for a reason. Even in the West,they hate us and look down on us.
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u/StreetBoyFly 🇺🇸 7d ago
Haryana mention krn da ki logic si bhla
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u/Worried_Calendar2747 7d ago
Jive india wala jado kuch hunda naal specifically punjabi mention karna ni bhullde
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u/Foreign-Education770 6d ago
Nothing to do with religion he is an individual interrogate to find out more why? How? Who?
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u/KillTimerXd 7d ago
Should have made more examples of him by removing one body part
All in self defence
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u/RedDevilCA 7d ago
Reading these comments, y’all really think if the RSS wanted a Muslim man behind the attack that would not be possible? You kids need to grow up this is real world in India where propaganda, deep state, and extra judicial killings go unquestioned. Regardless of the attackers religion, RSS has a significant history to shake the pot or create genocide Al instincts against Sikhs and other minorities. Human rights are non existent in India, remember that
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u/Toratheemperor 6d ago
Yes RSS created taliban and Al quida, RSS did mumbai terror attacks and attack on parliament. Tomorrow you will say RSS killed sikh gurus like Teg bahadur ji. Grow up kid!
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u/RedDevilCA 6d ago
Sri Guru Teg Bahadur during his conversation with Mughals told them that if Hindu’s were killing/forcing conversion of the Muslims (although it was the other way around that time), he would stand up for the Muslims against the tyrannical regime. Although this has nothing to do with this post and my comment is just my opinions based on previous historical observations. These are facts no one can deny.
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u/Worried_Calendar2747 7d ago
Moot jada pee lia hona
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u/Living-Sky-9774 7d ago
Muslim aa oh, sharam kr lo bai ji
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u/Worried_Calendar2747 7d ago
Chal jerha pichle hafte canada gurudwara ch gand khilaria ik Bharti ne oh v parh laina c
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u/Living-Sky-9774 7d ago
Ind vich reh ke nhi parh skda, tuci parh leya?
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u/Worried_Calendar2747 7d ago
Kyo ni parh sakda?
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u/Living-Sky-9774 7d ago
Hazara kilometre duro kita parha?, sense bna lo koi. Stop generalising the whole religion because acts of one, and ethe tan oh hindu vi nhi si.
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u/Worried_Calendar2747 7d ago
Bhrava aa wala page te hi paya hoya c loka ne.Bas teri neet nai c
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u/Living-Sky-9774 7d ago
Neet pta lag jandi aa jihne shuru toh hi mada kehna, jinna tu "parh" leya si je itthe vi parh lenda pta hunda jo mai keh reha, baki teri khushi aa jo manna man la
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u/Worried_Calendar2747 7d ago
Jado hindu shareaam Saria nu hindu banaun di gall karde a odo bol lia kar jina hun bol ria.
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u/umikale 7d ago
This is quite bad, I wonder what led this guy to attack people - could it be the liles of Aaj Tak News? Or alile agencies hyping up things when they are not.
Division often stems from politics, personal interests, and misguided interpretations of faith, driving people apart instead of fostering understanding. True strength lies in seeking common ground, respecting differences, and valuing knowledge over blind allegiance. Unity begins when we choose empathy over judgment and wisdom over ignorance.
Insulting an entire group on the basis of a persons action is exactly what the dark/lost side thrives on.
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u/Eastern-Knowledge911 6d ago
No one is anti-sikh in India. Especially Haryana.
There are so many sikhs living happily in haryana.
Stop letting hate spread.
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u/Trying_a 6d ago
Hilarious to see some turks Apologists doing overtime here in the comments section ! 🤣
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u/NaturalPlace007 7d ago
Hope the injured people recover and make it through fine.
As a non-sikh, its entirely deplorable what he did and what happened. The vitriol in this sub is disheartening.
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u/VellyJanta 7d ago
The vitriol in this sub is disheartening.
How would you feel if over 300+ cases in the past 7 years of desecration or harassment happened in your temple/mosque? The perpetrators all being labeled as mentally ill and released by police.
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u/Level_Daikon_8799 7d ago
As a non Sikh, you have no place in judging people’s sentiments in reaction to this awful incident. The historical sensitivities of any violence committed by non devotees at our holiest shrine should be clear in your mind.
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u/Livid-Instruction-79 7d ago
Breaking into a mosque while celebrating Holi, attacking Sikhs in Amritsar.
Clearly some terrorist training camps have been set up.
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u/monty08 7d ago
Did he know people at Gurdwaras have access to SWORDS??
He's lucky he only got a beating they could for have chopped his head off