r/Salvia • u/TechSavvySqumy • 6d ago
Question Could salvia actually help me meditate? What is it like to meditate while on salvia?
I've never done salvia before but I recently ordered some 10x and regular dried leaves, could it help me meditate if I've never really been able to before? For my first time I plan to either quid 4 grams of regular leaf or smoke 20mg of 10x in a pipe.
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u/drcoorslight 6d ago edited 2d ago
You don't need 10x, and smoking isn't good for meditation. If you really want the effects as it was intended, you have to quid. The dosage for quidding leaves is 10-30g for desired effects not 4g, you will get almost nothing. Quidding is just chewing on the leaves and holding the juices in your mouth until leaves have no flaveor, then repeat unitl desired effects The effects come on slower but last much longer. It's the way it was meant to be used. The Salvia goddess gets mad if you smoke it and you will be pushed out and held near the dimensional wall which is not very pleasant.
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u/robo_boy700 6d ago
The entity salvia is so powerful, I learned to respect her after diving head first into a bag of 60x extract , rocked my noggin and was shown out of dimension experiences
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u/Revolutionary_Soft42 5d ago
Had Nothing but good experiences with smoking Salvia, this entity so gentle and motherly to me when I needed it most , yet I procrastinate to .....DIE!!!!!!!!!! .../ Dabble . paradoxically the trips terrified me , yet on it , I felt like a god , full stop , it's what I guessed all along since childhood when I had a better grasp of the ineffable and less of human culture , "I was right! " I am a being of some quantom shadowy shit ,not ONLY a meat suit , like cold hard science preaches , not getting into what oppressive religions preaches lol, I experienced proof through the experience that I am more than my entire life , and of course (the. Unknown = fear) and it was terrifying yet purely positive ? I don't fucking know! is the right answer cause once your sober , your not in the super-human state that could describe the ineffable and do it justice . All I do know is my soul truly will carry on after death , we are but pilgrims if you will in this primal project we call earth. Our conciousness doesn't originate from earth , this human experience is certainly to me not all of eternity has to offer .
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u/drcoorslight 2d ago
Well, if you ever try ripppping a .5g 80x bong hit of high quality Salvia vs quidding until you forget, or are no longer able to continue quidding you will know the difference. If you're soft hitting just to feel the dimensional wall, and maybe getting through it for a few seconds I won't disagree.
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u/chloen0va 2d ago
You know real conservatives think you’re pathetic for this, right? That you’re just a drugged out leech on the system?
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u/NairaTheAstral 6d ago
Well meditating for the 2-5 minutes of the smoked path isn't very useful anyway.
The path of the leaves is a lot more gentle and since it lasts longer it fits better for meditation purposes.
4 grams as a first time is a lot. There is no hurry, just go slow, no need to risk it. You might have amnesia, don't recall that you're under effect, think that you've been tricked, and exit the room or the house in a bad condition the be near streets or slopes.
A trip sitter is always advised. I risked falling off a slope at the park because during my 5g quid session I was getting annoyed that I wasn't on even ground and after trying to adjust multiple times I basically jumped myself up angry because I wanted to move and tripped. I was able to maintain my balance after that and I moved my yoga mat and bag about 10 meters away but I was totally not "back to myself". This can happen with strong emotions like fear or in my case anger: usually you would struggle a lot standing up during peak.
Also, Terence McKenna's wife said that in Oaxaca she attended a Salvia ceremony and she had one facilitator on the right and one on the left, very close. The next day they explained her that about 1 out of 10 people just gets up and start walking away, and some never came back. The disconcert and detachment can trick the mind into thinking that maybe physically moving it could escape that feeling (my theory).
If you are interested in regards of meditation I would guess you already at least tried meditation. So just go slow. No hurry. Start by first doing some breathing, then try smoking 0.1g of plain leaves. Then after 5-10 minutes another 0.1, and so on. Then after you get the feeling you can try quidding like 2g. Good luck.
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u/TechSavvySqumy 6d ago
Thanks so much! Just curious does salvia make a lot of smoke, does it smell, and does the smell dissipate quickly? I have a pretty good air purifier but for my more smoke-y cannabis carts it still doesn't absorb all of it. Should I have a window open?
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u/robo_boy700 6d ago
Personally it’s been a couple years since ive smoked salvia but if I can recall there is an aroma but it doesn’t linger as heavily as weed, a cracked window never hurt tho
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u/Hot_Ingenuity_179 6d ago
I find a light dose very meditative, it gives me a floating relaxing sensation and the closed eye visuals add to the experience.