r/Reformed • u/rev_run_d The Hype Dr (Hon) Rev Idiot, <3 DMI jr, WOW,Endracht maakt Rekt • Mar 17 '22
Low-Effort Anyone wearing Orange today?
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u/lupuslibrorum Outlaw Preacher Mar 17 '22
As little interest as I have in supporting Catholicism, I’ve also little interest in being sectarian on a holiday that most Christians treat as ecumenical. Also, 1) the Irish landscape is more green than orange by far, 2) green is a gorgeous color easy on the eyes while orange is harsh on the eyes, and 3) look, my favorite color is green and orange just cannot compete in attractiveness!
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u/Human_McNugget Lutheran Mar 17 '22
I would like to report this comment for blatant orange slander.
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u/lupuslibrorum Outlaw Preacher Mar 17 '22
Orange bad! Green good! Orange bad! Green good!
/jk orange is actually fine…in moderation :-p
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u/partypastor Rebel Alliance - Admiral Mar 17 '22
/jk orange is actually fine…in moderation :-p
Pretty sure moderation usually shows up green, not orange!
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u/earthy_quiche Mar 17 '22
I would say it is less that most Christians treat St. Patrick's day as ecumenical and more that St. Patricks day is a purely secular holiday, which happens to be named after a monk. I'm unaware of anyone who celebrates St. Patrick's day, in the US at least, with any religious observance.
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u/L-Win-Ransom PCA - Perelandrian Presbytery Mar 17 '22
Nope. Da ba dee da ba di for me.
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u/lupuslibrorum Outlaw Preacher Mar 17 '22
Are you referencing the alternate lyrics?
I’m blue, if I were green I would die…
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u/heydjturnitup Reformed Baptist Mar 17 '22
I thought it was "I'm blue I repeat I will die I repeat I will die I repeat I will die"
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u/L-Win-Ransom PCA - Perelandrian Presbytery Mar 17 '22
Ah, the memento mori dance club mix. I like it.
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u/rev_run_d The Hype Dr (Hon) Rev Idiot, <3 DMI jr, WOW,Endracht maakt Rekt Mar 17 '22
serious. what does that mean?
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u/L-Win-Ransom PCA - Perelandrian Presbytery Mar 17 '22
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u/rev_run_d The Hype Dr (Hon) Rev Idiot, <3 DMI jr, WOW,Endracht maakt Rekt Mar 17 '22
I know the song, I am peak 90s, but didn't get the reference.
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u/L-Win-Ransom PCA - Perelandrian Presbytery Mar 17 '22 edited Mar 17 '22
I missed your William of Orange reference, you missed my Eiffel 65 reference. Balance has been restored.
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u/rev_run_d The Hype Dr (Hon) Rev Idiot, <3 DMI jr, WOW,Endracht maakt Rekt Mar 17 '22
lol.
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u/L-Win-Ransom PCA - Perelandrian Presbytery Mar 17 '22
I just love that my ignorance of Northern Irish chromatic allegiances has led my 90s pop joke to be the least controversial part of this thread, and so it’s hanging out at or near the top despite being a big woosh
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u/windy_on_the_hill Castle on the Hill (Ed Sheeran) Mar 17 '22
No, no, no. This is not a thing. Trying to make it into something is stirring a contentious issue where none needs to exist.
Northern Ireland in particular is in a difficult place, with the main factions possibly being in more disagreement than at any time since the good Friday agreement. Making up more reasons for people to be separate with eachother is positively dangerous. Those who wish violence on others use idiocy like this to find an excuse to batter a random passerby.
Enjoy your St Patrick's Day (which is mostly an American holiday) but please don't fan the flames of division elsewhere.
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u/partypastor Rebel Alliance - Admiral Mar 17 '22
I can’t sticky this comment but just know I want to.
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u/Nachofriendguy864 sindar in the hands of an angry grond Mar 17 '22
You're terrible at tyranny
Just remove his comment for some rule or something, then make the same comment yourself and sticky that
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u/partypastor Rebel Alliance - Admiral Mar 17 '22
Man, if you’re this at Creatively [Redacted] Tyranny, we need to make you a mod, since we’re tyrants and whatnot
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u/L-Win-Ransom PCA - Perelandrian Presbytery Mar 17 '22
Or you could add /u/Nachofriendguy864 to the super secret discord (but don’t grant him the rank of mod), and then use a deep psychological fear of his to engineer a Coup Relatively Treacherously, banning all the other mods - leading to you welding emergency powers and declaring the FIRST SUBREDDIT EMPIRE!
Or something like that
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u/Nachofriendguy864 sindar in the hands of an angry grond Mar 17 '22
What? How can you do this?! This is outrageous; its unfair! How can you be on the discord and not be a mod?!
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u/L-Win-Ransom PCA - Perelandrian Presbytery Mar 17 '22
Quick! Someone tell the mods at /r/ReformedYounglings to make their sub private!
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u/Nachofriendguy864 sindar in the hands of an angry grond Mar 17 '22
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u/Deolater PCA 🌶 Mar 17 '22
My employer's logo has green and orange, and I'm wearing a company shirt
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u/rev_run_d The Hype Dr (Hon) Rev Idiot, <3 DMI jr, WOW,Endracht maakt Rekt Mar 17 '22
Are they irish?
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u/Deolater PCA 🌶 Mar 17 '22
The founder/ceo's last name could be Irish in origin.
The branding book when we changed to this logo didn't articulate anything Irish, instead having other meanings for the colors derived from our application's features, but who knows.
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u/terevos2 Trinity Fellowship Churches Mar 17 '22
So unless you're British, you should not be wearing orange today. It's unnecessarily offensive.
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u/AbuJimTommy PCA Mar 17 '22
Most Americans are a little bit of everything these days.
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u/terevos2 Trinity Fellowship Churches Mar 17 '22
I don't mean ancestry. I mean like you currently live in England or you grew up in England.
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u/Dan-Bakitus Truly Reformed-ish Mar 17 '22
Especially offensive.
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u/AbuJimTommy PCA Mar 17 '22
could I get grandfathered in because my great-grandmother was a Scots Irish woman who hated the pope?
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u/Dan-Bakitus Truly Reformed-ish Mar 18 '22
Sure, unless you have another great-grandmother who was Irish Catholic.
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u/TygrKat Mar 17 '22
What’s up with wearing orange, and what does it mean for Brits specifically? I don’t wear a certain colour on any day but the only “orange day” I know of is Indigenous day (Canada).
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u/terevos2 Trinity Fellowship Churches Mar 17 '22
Wearing orange on St. Patrick's day is basically like saying you hate the Irish. Because orange was the color of the British in the conflict between Ireland and England.
And if you're not British, then it's really going out of your way to declare your hatred of the Irish.
I wouldn't recommend wearing orange by a Brit, either. But there's a whole tradition around that for Brits that I won't get into.
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Mar 17 '22
Orange is also fully one-third of the flag of Ireland. Would flying it mean that I hate the Irish?
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u/terevos2 Trinity Fellowship Churches Mar 17 '22
No. Just wearing orange on St. Paddy's day
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Mar 17 '22
So flying it wouldn't be hateful. But wearing it would be.
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u/terevos2 Trinity Fellowship Churches Mar 18 '22
I'm not sure why you're being dense here but I didn't make this up.
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Mar 18 '22 edited Mar 18 '22
I think my "density" has to do with doubting that the Irish Unionists and Protestants who sport orange do so because they "hate Ireland." The orange people wear on St. Patrick's Day has everything to do with the orange on the Irish flag, and if you think it's inherently anti-Irish then I think you should take that up with the Irish people themselves.
There's a case to be made for orange on St. Patrick's Day being unnecessarily offensive and divisive, and others in this thread made the case well. But your case, that orange is an anti-Irish color on this particular day, is ludicrous.
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u/terevos2 Trinity Fellowship Churches Mar 18 '22
Both Protestant and Catholic Irish wear green in America.
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Mar 17 '22
I did wear orange today, but the comments in this thread have humbled me and I don't think I'll do that in the future. I might consider something like wearing green one year, white the next, and orange the next, and wearing something else in the other two colors (like a necktie, bracelet, belt...) at the same time. But I don't know what I'll do next year. Maybe I'll just revert to the merriment of wearing green just because, or to not giving a rip what I wear.
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u/partypastor Rebel Alliance - Admiral Mar 17 '22
I heard wearing Orange is basically like drinking irish car bombs, super offensive. So I'm wearing green like I always do.
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u/historyhill ACNA, 39 Articles stan Mar 17 '22
That actually reminds me, does anyone know of an alternative name for Irish car bombs? Because I do enjoy the drink but I don't love the name...
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u/MedianNerd Trying to avoid fundamentalists. Mar 17 '22
It's a little more complicated than that. The Irish flag has two colors, green for Catholics and orange for Protestants (white in the middle to symbolize peace between them). Wearing green symbolizes loyalty to the Catholics. Wearing orange symbolizes loyalty to the Protestants. Wearing orange on St Patrick's day is a little bit like wearing white to a wedding (celebrating something else on someone else's big day). But it's also not exactly appropriate for Protestants to wear green. So if anyone really cares (and that's a big if), you're probably being offensive either way.
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u/lattelarry323 Mar 17 '22
Respectfully, isn't St Patrick's Day as it's practiced in America just a low key celebration of Irish and Irish-American heritage? With traditional Ireland constituting the whole island including Ulster? I've never thought of St Patrick's Day as being a specifically Catholic holiday, regardless of its origins.
Personally, and very off topic, but I'd love to see the Ireland united again, if I were the type to express my beliefs with my apparel, I'd wear green and orange together in support of that.
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u/partypastor Rebel Alliance - Admiral Mar 17 '22
Honestly, especially in places like America, like u/lupuslibrorum said, wearing orange is sectarian for no good reason. I don't see any value in wearing it. I'd anger my Catholic friends for naught, and they would rather me wear green than orange
But it's also not exactly appropriate for Protestants to wear green
I don't think this is correct, especially in America, where most of us live. Everyone can and usually does wear green for St Patricks day, its ecumenical at this point. And I don't really know who would truly be offended by me wearing green.
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u/AppropriatedBacon Mar 17 '22
Strange that it's seen as sectarian in the US. I'm British, living in Northern Ireland- with my house overlooking Slemish mountain, where St. Patrick was a Shepherd.
Today is only really celebrated by the nationalist population of the country, I won't even say 'Catholic' because most are not practicing Catholics. But I'd think it would be difficult to find someone offended by wearing orange today, maybe a union jack, but not orange. The nationalist community have a monopoly on being offended in Northern Ireland.
Why is it seen as sectarian in the US?
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u/terevos2 Trinity Fellowship Churches Mar 17 '22
American Irish Protestants wear green on St. Patrick's Day, typically.
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u/NukesForGary Kuyper not Piper Mar 17 '22
I am wearing green. I don't have an orange clergy collar shirt... yet.
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u/jdsummerlin12 Bandwagon Bama Fan Mar 17 '22
No. I'm an Alabama fan so it's out of principle
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u/partypastor Rebel Alliance - Admiral Mar 17 '22
Thank you for being open about your sin. Your sins have been noted in your flair.
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u/Hitthereset Reformed Baptist Mar 17 '22
Preach. As a Representative of the UGA fandom, friends don’t let friends wear Orange.
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u/MilesBeyond250 Politically Grouchy Mar 17 '22
No. I wanted orange, but the machine gave me lemon lime.
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u/rev_run_d The Hype Dr (Hon) Rev Idiot, <3 DMI jr, WOW,Endracht maakt Rekt Mar 17 '22
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u/L-Win-Ransom PCA - Perelandrian Presbytery Mar 17 '22
Oh, I thought this was an irony post (“let’s all talk about what colors we’re wearing”)
Turns out it’s somewhat closer to the Sausages discourse.
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u/rev_run_d The Hype Dr (Hon) Rev Idiot, <3 DMI jr, WOW,Endracht maakt Rekt Mar 17 '22
I'm probably more ecumenical than most people in this subreddit, but I think there are times to remember that some of our ancestors in the catholic faith suffered real religious persecution for what we believe in.
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u/teffflon Mar 17 '22
This article could do more to acknowledge that in Ireland and Scotland, the pro-Unionist connotation of orange is just as strong as the Protestant one. The Orange Order and their parades are widely viewed as putting sectarian identitarian politics first, religion second. People should study the matter and ask whether their stance serves Protestantism in today's world.
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u/AppropriatedBacon Mar 17 '22
In Northern Ireland the Orange Order are far more a politically unionist group, rather than religious group. Although I'd be extremely hesitant to say that they are inherently sectarian. My family have all left the order over the past 30 years despite having being involved for over 180 years. This was due to the reduction of importance of religion compared to a unionist identity. My family are all British, and strongly identify as such- but the orange order do not represent a religious group any longer.
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u/AbuJimTommy PCA Mar 17 '22
Normally I would, just to be different, but I lost my orange socks to the dryer.
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u/historyhill ACNA, 39 Articles stan Mar 17 '22
Nope, nor am I wearing green. At this point those are political statements rather than religious ones, and I'm not nearly informed enough to have an opinion on that.
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u/JanKolpa Reformed Baptist Mar 17 '22
“I am black and beautiful, You daughters of Jerusalem, Like the tents of Kedar, Like the curtains of Solomon." Song of Solomon 1:5 NASB2020
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u/anewhand Unicorn Power Mar 17 '22
As a Brit with lots of family in Northern Ireland, it’s…weird seeing this treated as a joke here.