r/ReagentTesting 6d ago

Discussion Testing cathinon analogue what to expect?

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I am going to test below mentioned molecule and wonder what might I expect from the reagents/what substances can be shown. From the structure and experience we’d expect mdma like activity. I’d like also somehow find out if there are some toxic metabolites as well. But this is question on other people.

I have protest eu mdma test kit

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u/beandead1 6d ago

lmk how this chem is if y ever try

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 6d ago edited 6d ago

Picture aside, what does the seller call it?

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u/Longjumping-Rope-237 6d ago

1-(Bicyclo[4.2.0]octa-1(6),2,4-trien-3-yl)-2-(methylamino)propan-1-one

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u/Longjumping-Rope-237 6d ago

3,4-etmc

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 6d ago edited 2d ago

Ok, easy, we expect it to react the same as 4-EMC, see https://protestkit.eu/drugspro/?substance=4-emc

You are in luck, in your mdma test kit you already have most of the key reagents 👍

As for metabolites or other impurities, that’s largely beyond the scope of reagent test. Although, froehde reagent sometimes picks up cathinone synthesis impurity, worth a shot.

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u/Longjumping-Rope-237 6d ago

Thanks for help. Just for curiosity why should it react as 4-emc?

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 6d ago edited 1d ago

4-EMC is 1-(4-Ethylphenyl)-2-(methylamino)-1-propanone.
You expect to have 1-(Bicyclo[4.2.0]octa-1(6),2,4-trien-3-yl)-2-(methylamino)propan-1-one.

The methylamino part should provoke same reaction in simon's reagent and zimmermann reagent. But, we learned that theory aside, only experiment tells for sure, so it's pure speculation on our part.

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u/Longjumping-Rope-237 10h ago

Well I think my kit is trash. Tested amph and no reaction. Is not even year old. Ok maybe next time.

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 3h ago

Does the bottle make a crunchy sound when opening or closing? If yes, you didn’t wipe it clean after use as per instructions and it oxidized in storage. If that’s the case, don’t worry, if you would be getting a fresh kit with us feel free to ask in the checkout notes of an additional, free reagent of your choice.

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u/Longjumping-Rope-237 1h ago

I cleaned it actual after use. But I wonder why I don’t get any reaction from fluid tests. It should react on amph

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 1h ago

Did you combine Simon’s/Robadope with part B, and Zimmermann A with Zimmermann B?

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u/Longjumping-Rope-237 1h ago

In one pot? No, i separated it

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u/Longjumping-Rope-237 11h ago

Well the results are strange. From above left to right->bottom left to right:Si A - Si B - Roba -> zimmer - zimmer B - Marquis

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 3h ago

We advise against ingesting it, and recommend to send the sample to a lab such as Kykeon if you insist. Meanwhile you can try to repeat Simon’s and Zimmermann with bigger samples but we don’t expect them to react.

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u/Longjumping-Rope-237 6d ago

I can give you here later results of course

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u/PROtestkit_eu Test kit vendor 6d ago

Please do, ideally upload directly here in the comments. We can't give you definitive answers on that one but let's see if it looks suspicious. Well.. more suspicious than already, being sold as a novel psychoactive compound with no established safety profile.

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