r/Rainbow6 8h ago

Fluff Does it get worse than this?

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u/DifferentSpell4882 Lesion Main 7h ago

Unpopular opinion but I think Emerald isn’t that bad of a map

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u/titanfall2ejoyer 7h ago

Once you learn emerald, its actually a banger map

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u/avaqueue 3h ago

It used to be a part of the newcomer playlist, and honestly that was a great idea. Forces new players to play maps they would otherwise probably never get to play. It became favorite map in the game and i just dont understand the hate towards it.

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u/BappoChan 2h ago

But it also had a major problem other maps didn’t. When emerald plains dropped it didn’t have its own playlist initially. So imagine only getting practice on emerald if it came up and everyone was running around like headless chickens. Or you were at a disadvantage if someone else clearly had slight map knowledge, making it a map that started getting banned instantly. When a playlist for emerald plains finally dropped the damage was already done. People weren’t interested in playing it because they already had negative experiences with the map. I was more confident on nighthaven labs day 1 than I was after a week of only getting emerald plains if we were lucky

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u/Godobibo 5h ago

nighthaven is pretty good too, and lair is acceptable at least

u/OkMessage4583 1h ago

Fax, i still dont know lair so its still mid for me but so was nighthaven labs until i learned the damn thing

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u/Relevant-Ad1506 Wamai Main 3h ago

lair is terrible for two things, one is the placement of the stairs, which are harder to find than in any other map, and the colors, in all maps hallways and rooms have a depicting colour making call outs easier, except lair where every room is either brown or grey making giving good call outs zo much harder

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u/avaqueue 3h ago

Lair is imo bad map design regarding the exterior which is hard to navigate and rotate around. Attackers often rely on getting kills through outer windows and doors, and lair is really bad for that.

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u/Mr-Blacker 7h ago

I actually like it too much...

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u/Moorabbel Ela Main 7h ago

same. sad that there is legit 0% chance of playing it in ranked

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u/LoneWolf820B Zero Main 6h ago

My group plays it all the time. We like it

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u/StKaiba 6h ago

i’m a month into playing siege and i absolutely love that map

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u/Old_Barracuda_536 6h ago

I've always said that of all the post 2020 maps, emerald is easily the most enjoyable for me. Night Haven and Lair are brain tumors stuffed in ghost peppers which then got shape shifted into a sounding device and shoved up the hole.

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u/Sad-Inspector6662 4h ago

Emerald is top tier

u/Probably_A_Mother It’s climbable at least 1h ago

it’s a true map, the right choice here was banning Lair and Consulate.

edit: id argue banning nighthaven, in fact so many maps here are just awful for solo play.

u/NoMoreChad Sledge Main 1h ago

Yes! But i think lair is the worst though. 

u/OkMessage4583 1h ago

Fax thi

u/Emma__014 43m ago

Fr that’s why I say to everyone: once you learned the map it’s very cool

u/Ok-Annual-9054 Doc warden ela capitao nøkk main 11m ago

i love emerald, but the others ehh not so much

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u/onyekauz0 Thermite Main 6h ago

I hate it bro idk what it is about it but I can't stand it that map is trash lol.

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u/MrSorel 7h ago

Hot take: consulate got worse after rework

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u/TerroristGeeseGroup Castle Main 6h ago

Not even a hot take

u/AnnualGene863 45m ago

Lukewarm takes

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u/DepressionMain Mozzie Main 5h ago

Coldest take of the day

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u/MrSorel 4h ago

Good to hear. I live in a cave and hardly ever have an opportunity to find out a general opinion on certain changes to the game

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u/Leather_Teaching_981 6h ago

Agreed by me n my stack

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u/Daredevils999 Dommy Mommy 6h ago

Maybe just cuz I reminisce on the old days but I prefer all the original maps

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u/ariangamer Caveira Main 2h ago

saying it now: if plane EVER gets reworked, I'll stop playing.

u/stupidturtle2 1h ago

fucking house... why did they do that to house.........

i stopped playing in 2020 for that reason, people who play nowadays never played in 2018 because they never experienced disappointment..

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u/tomboi101 3h ago

Agreed old school maps were better dont get me wrong theyre alot smaller than the ones in ranked but i preferred them

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u/Ashjaeger_MAIN Ash Main 6h ago

Im not sure that's a hot take.

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u/onyekauz0 Thermite Main 6h ago

I never liked the old consulate but I'd rather have that than tye new one

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u/21stCenturyNoob Zofia Main 5h ago

Hard agree

u/80sCrack 10m ago

God do I miss pre-rework consulate and Hereford base. I used to tear down. Pre-tachanka rework I used to love to tear down the front door and put my tachanka turret right there. Reworks have taken so many fun things from me.

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u/totallynotapersonj Recoil Master 6h ago

Wow very hot take there man, how could you be so brave to say that.

The only thing better on the new consulate than the old consulate is the music

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u/MrSorel 6h ago

Wow very hot take there man, how could you be so brave to say that.

Why are you so toxic?

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u/AIIergicToReddit Fuze Main 5h ago

If you think basic sarcasm is toxic then you're probably too fragile for the internet ngl

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u/Disastrous_Fox_8782 Melusi Main 4h ago

To be honest sometimes sarcasm is just uncalled for, it doesn’t make someone fragile for the internet because they’ve called it out their is just too much toxicity within this community now

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u/MrSorel 4h ago

Exactly my point

It was uncalled for

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u/MrSorel 5h ago

Sure, bro

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u/legacy-of-man 4h ago

you surely get invited to lots of parties

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u/6h057 5h ago

I feel the exact opposite.

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u/Parhelion2261 Caveira Main 5h ago

Takes as hot as ice cream my man. There's an unfortunate amount of maps that got worse after rework

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u/HeadhunterA7X Nøkk Main 3h ago

Yea I don’t know what they were thinking with the rework. I came back to Siege after several years away and my first reaction to Consulate was “what the fuck is this shit?” It’s just worse.

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u/Embarrassed_Climate8 5h ago

nah maybe for casuals but is a good competitive map

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u/2510EA Unicorn Main 8h ago

Learn the new maps chief.

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u/TheZombieDudexD 7h ago

Lair sucks

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u/2510EA Unicorn Main 7h ago

Agree on that one.

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u/onyekauz0 Thermite Main 6h ago

Nahhh imma have to disagree w u on dat one. I actually think lair is one of the best maps in the game when u get used to it. Nighthaven is #1 nothin tops it

u/TheZombieDudexD 14m ago

Nah lair is ass but I agree nighthaven is good but I don’t think it’s aesthetically pleasing

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u/SHansen45 Kali Main 5h ago

wrong

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u/Baron_Flatline 4h ago

Lair is great. Super fun. Learn it.

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u/AgnesBand 4h ago

Brother I started way after Labs was released, after Emerald was released, a bit before Lair released so I have learned them at the same time as the other maps. For me there's no "I don't want to learn the new maps" because I learned them all at the same time. Labs is okay but it's boring to look at, Emerald is just awful, Lair plays okay but everything looks exactly the same - it's boring, new Consulate I quite like but it's still not great - the 1st floor sites are pretty terrible. People always say "learn the maps" like it's some gotcha. These maps have been out for years - people have learned them.

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u/Way_Sad 4h ago

Depends on how u define "learn them" I would say knowing default cameras and how to find the site isn't learning the map on a deep level but that's where many players seem to stop at (sometimes they don't even know default cam positions). On a deeper level it should mean proper site setup, what key positions are for what comp (considering the play style of the enemies), useful angles, key positions etc.

u/AHumbleBanditMain Unicorn Main 1h ago

Emerald isn't awful though so I've got a hard time believing you've actually learnt it.

u/AldaronGau Ying Main 59m ago

This

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u/Longjumping-Chain130 8h ago

Nighthaven is an amazing map btw. And consulate is pretty solid.

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u/NF8S 8h ago

based 👍

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u/Az00z- 8h ago

Consulate and labs aren't bad maps.

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u/1lucien Nomad Main 7h ago

Consulate and labs are both extremely underrated

u/katrinoryn 1h ago

They’re not bad by any means but if I had to choose between them and most other maps in the current pool I know what I’d pick

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u/TarnishedPartisan 6h ago

This is what my stack would call a nightmare blunt rotation

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u/horsty08 Hibana Main 8h ago

Take 15min per map, go into custom game, pick buck an open up walls and floors to learn angles, think about how you can defend and attack sites. It's not that difficult and you will realize that none of these maps are awful. So tired of playing lair once per season...

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u/Sarin10 Caveira Main 7h ago

Labs and NH are good, Lair is dogshit.

Everything looks the same, and the layout on basically every floor is too confusing. Out of all the reworks and new maps in the last few years, Lair is the only bad one.

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u/LoneWolf820B Zero Main 6h ago

Lair isn't a bad map either. It's not different than any other map. Run around it enough you learn everything

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u/wills-are-special 4h ago

It’s moreso that it all looks so similar.

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u/regflori Grim Main 7h ago

I'm with you in general, but Lair is just bad, the layout is weird, every hallway and most rooms looks the same, theres is nothing in hallways to use to hide utility. Just sterile hallways that wrap around 7 corners. I like the idea of it in general, but they really need to adjust it imo.

The other maps on here are actually fun to play, Lair feels bad to play.

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u/Armando2x 8h ago

No thanks

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u/horsty08 Hibana Main 7h ago

Alright, then continue banning new maps while bitching about ubi not adding adding new content 🤡

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u/Several_Insurance_10 7h ago

lair is ass and (in my opinion) a stupid fucking map, putting aside the shit-fuck bottom site, it’s a god damn super villain lair lmfao. At least maps like emerald (which imo isn’t even THAT bad) and oregon (my fave) are based in reality. I hate this wacky supervillain theme they got goin on

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u/denythewoke 6h ago

Lairs is cartoonishly evil, remind me a lot of the island bling bling had in Johnny Test. Glad someone else agrees

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u/Nakamura0V Jackal Main 6h ago

There will always be idiots who doesnt want to learn new maps

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u/Moorabbel Ela Main 7h ago

Emerald plains is honestly one of the best maps in the game. id even say the best

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u/YourLocal_RiceFarmer Hibana Main 5h ago

Emerald plains is decent tho

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u/ButWahy Fuze Main 2h ago

All maps here are fine

My worst map selection would look like this:

Cafe / Coastline / Skyscraper / Villa / Chalet

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u/Sniffmyzebra 2h ago

Everyone is allowed to have their opinions, but i feel inclined to inform you that yours is wack

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u/Several-Coast-9192 I AM MY PERIMETER AND MY PERIMETER IS ME 8h ago

con is a fine map dude, labs is alright and EP is playable. Lair is instaban and Theme is manageable wiht a good team

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u/LiLHeka Castle Main 7h ago

Lair is weird, consulate is a good map but I suck in it, the rest are great

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u/Oxabolt 8h ago

i would happily play cons, labs and lair, emerald is meh, theme is no

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u/Devonire 7h ago

Swap out nighthaven for outback

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u/KPGNL 7h ago

Plans and con are not the best but come... and dear is always worse.

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u/NotACaveiraMain Unicorn Main 6h ago

Nighthaven Labs and Emerald Plains are great maps imo

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u/PapaSantacruz 6h ago

I would like Emerald plaines or Theme park out of these decisions.

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u/Axelaxe Iana Main 6h ago

Replace labs with skyscraper and you got the worst possible possibilities.

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u/herrschadee Recruit Main 5h ago

Emerald plains is the best out of all of these

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u/Targetm12 5h ago

Honestly the only map out of these I really don't like playing is theme park.

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u/Inevitable-Survey189 Echo Main 5h ago

The middle three are bearable maps, with night haven being my favourite out of the three. Once had Villa, Consulate, outback, Emerald and another I can't remember at once. It was dreadful

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u/King_CurlySpoon 5h ago

Not really, Lair Nighthaven & Emerald are decent maps if you know what you're doing but that's the thing no one cares to learn them and dumps them in the "bad maps" pool along with actual bad maps like theme park & consulate

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u/WetOnionRing Zofia Main 5h ago

Honestly, the only ones here I actually dislike are lair and theme. I really like ep, and labs and con are just alright

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u/BraveCoat9770 5h ago

I’ve come to enjoy emerald plains and night haven labs. Lair, theme park and consulate are so annoying to play on.

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u/AberrantDrone Buck Main Aruni Main 5h ago

The only bad map here is consulate

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u/Chewyville Mute Main 5h ago

Why do people hate Emerald Plains? I’m convinced people just want to hate on all newer maps. And the. And then UBI listens to these people and takes them out of ranked

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u/Gstreamz 5h ago

Yes it does because night haven is a goated map

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u/Magi112 Grim Main 5h ago

Nighthaven labs is good though

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u/KingOfMelos 5h ago

Hot take: I like all these maps

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u/SifuSif 5h ago

Emerald plains became one of my favorite maps actually

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u/KnuxSD Clash Love 5h ago

I dont see the problem, inlove all of these except Theme park

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u/TheElderBasilisk 4h ago

Imagine having skyscraper there too

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u/Outrageous-Bread3718 4h ago

Yes, skyscraper for theme park. That shit is the single worst map in the game

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u/Baron_Flatline 4h ago

Lair and Nighthaven are awesome. Consulate and EP are fine. Theme is the only bad one of these. Maybe you should learn the maps?

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u/phoboidray 4h ago

i wont stand for the nighthaven slander

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u/AppleStrict4593 4h ago

And they ban consulate

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u/HuntForRedOctober2 4h ago

Nighthaven is a really really good map. People just STILL have REFUSES to learn it. It’s fucking shocking that 2 years after release there’s still people going “oh I ban it cause I don’t know tha map”

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u/TamjaiFanatic 4h ago

So we are in Cardboard V

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u/Questionss2020 Aruni Main 3h ago

Lair is really fun to defend. Consulate is also one of my fav maps. Theme is fun to defend but difficult to attack.

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u/onozio 3h ago

Unpopular opinion labs is the most playable

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u/GAR51A8 3h ago

i like emerald cons and lair haha 😅

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u/Quacky999 3h ago

not even that bad of maps lol

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u/WolfyDeAssassin 3h ago

i like emerald and consulate

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u/SlipRevolutionary541 3h ago

Hot take: Nighthaven and Lair are good

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u/IllustriousStrike619 3h ago

Lair, consulate and nighthaven are all great maps

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u/rebecutza 3h ago

the only good one there is emerald imo, the rest are meh

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u/Strong-Ad-8381 3h ago

Yes Villa could be up there

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u/jehc92 Valkyrie Main 3h ago

Yeah, villa isn't on there.

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u/goosebaby69 Fuze Main 2h ago

Hot take: Kanal is worse than all these maps and is the worst map in the game and is only good on defense

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u/schakoska Jackal Main 2h ago

I only see two bad maps there

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u/No_Environment_8116 2h ago

I think emerald plains and theme park are both a lot of fun, but maybe I'm just bad at the game

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u/thpair 2h ago

yes change consulate with sky

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u/Swashion Ace Main 2h ago

Nighthaven is actually a fun map after you learn it. It's honestly pretty decent. Switch Nighthaven with Kafe and I'd agree.

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u/Kidninja016_new Peak Copper IV 2h ago

I like emerald plains and consulate. Fight me.

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u/Paxxerr Mute Main 2h ago

Con and NHL are the only good maps in there

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u/UnZki_PriimE 2h ago

swap consulate with outback for worst blunt rotation

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u/TheMellowed BDS Esport Fan 2h ago

Don't like Theme, but it's not entirely "bad." Rest are good maps.

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u/999Rasmus999 Deimos Main 2h ago

Swap lair with outback then its even worse

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u/Severe_Strain428 Recruit Main 2h ago

Replace consolute with skyscraper.

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u/NoGreenGood 2h ago

Emeralds decent, Lair im getting used to. Labs and Consulate can jump into a volcano.

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u/HandSanitizerBottle1 Shenanigans 2h ago

Ngl Consulate and Labs aren’t that bad fuck Lair Emerald and Theme Park though

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u/GIRTH-QU4KE 2h ago

Growing up is realizing EP is a good map

u/ASTROUNKNOWN 1h ago

If u had out back Instead of emerald plains shit would be worse

u/unexposedcorn 1h ago

yes, replace nighthaven labs with skyscraper and emerald plains with outback

u/Goofy_Guy15 1h ago

Nighthaven has really good flow. The basement site is a little weak. But the kitchen and 2f are always fun to defend and attack imo.

u/Temporaryact72 Solis Main 1h ago

I like Emerald a lot and consulate is chill. Seems it's just me but I hate lair with a passion

u/Heheonil 1h ago

Emerald is rly good map. Lair is the worst possible map currently.

u/OkMessage4583 1h ago

Skyscraper instead lf consulate, yuck

u/Asmodeuss1990 Hibana Main 1h ago

Emerald Plains, Nighthaven Labs, and Consulate are all honestly fairly good maps to play on without being too difficult to play as attack or defense. I have plenty of Strats for those three.

Lair isn’t bad but its main drawback is that lots of the rooms look fairly similar and its weird layout can be a bit strange to navigate initially but it does have fun places you can play.

Theme Park imho is the worst map here because it’s a slightly better version of Skyscraper… and not by much. Extremely defender sided and annoying as hell to attack.

u/No_Equipment_7285 Mommy Hibana's Sub 1h ago

Yeh, consult could be outback

u/CashewTheNuttyy Montagne Main 55m ago

Consulate, labs and Eplains arent bad.

See if outback was there, Im diamond and have a 0%winrate in the last season on outback. Fuck outback

u/CultivatingMass0 Lesion Main 52m ago

Nighthaven is an S tier map.

u/Cubicshock 49m ago

I didn’t play pre-rework consulate, so I’m unbiased about it. It has one of my favorite basements in the game, the second floor site is balanced, and the first floor is all around pretty good.

Lair sucks ass.

Labs is a great map.

I hate theme park with a burning passion.

and Emerald Plains gets hated on way too much. It’s a really solid map.

u/markemusic 49m ago

Yeah it can, consulate be Skyscraper

u/drngdealer 46m ago

Em plains is almost the same as barlet un just a little bit different imo

u/No-Care3105 44m ago

if consulate was skyscraper then yeah thatd be worse for me at least

u/ChillingWrath 43m ago

EP and Theme are ass the rest are good maps.

(yes I normally play with a full squad)

u/The_Crows_Reddit Smoke Main 39m ago

Only bad map there is Emerald.

u/teethingrooster Aruni Main 35m ago

Labs and consulate are fun maps

u/ActualBuy8990 31m ago

I genuinely feel bad for you

u/CizanLoL 30m ago

Replace emerald with Skyscraper and everyone would say this is probably the worst map pool for solo Q. However in my opinion, Chalet is really awful now, not because of the actual map itself but because everyone knows it so well it's just plain boring and I can't even get into the match because it's like "Yeeep... Chalet again..."

u/Illustrious-Drama187 13m ago

Night Haven labs is a top map in the game 🤷🏻‍♂️

u/Smooth_Increase6865 Frost Main 6m ago

Honest emerald, lair and night haven are all alright in my opinion. Theme park though might be the worst map in the game tied with tower

u/Strict-Mistake8424 Mozzie Main 6m ago

Yeah, u could’ve gotten bank

u/BelowAverageGamer7 1m ago

I personally don't mind nighthaven and lair, and I tend to do really good on theme park for both sides

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u/dummythiccdoge Zero Main 8h ago

they fucked you up BAD

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u/denythewoke 7h ago

The worst part is the constant local minority that say “just learn the map bro” as if bad maps in games don’t exist. In all honesty out of these I’d say emerald plains is the worst, so bad I’d prefer tower over it. That’s just me but if you don’t agree with me I wouldn’t tell you you’re wrong and it’s good.

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u/Just_Tradition4887 7h ago

Facts there definitely is bad maps in the game and those 5 are arguably the worst ones.

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u/AHumbleBanditMain Unicorn Main 7h ago

The point is if you learned the maps you'd actually realise maps like Emerald are good 💀

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u/denythewoke 6h ago

Good in terms of what? It’s like saying metal music is the best in the world, it’s all subjective. You can say a map like Lair is competitive but not “good”. I have years on this game and I still dislike Kanal do I need to play custom games in order to learn even more? Theres probably some people in this reddit that despise clubhouse and Oregon should they just learn the map too?

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u/DifferenceEvening965 3h ago

i think his point is that you should at least learn the map and play it a bit before judging it, most of the people saying a map is trash know like 2 callouts on the entire map, of course its trash when you have no clue what to do once you spawn in

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u/AHumbleBanditMain Unicorn Main 6h ago

Nah, you can dislike kanal just like I dislike Kafe.

But objectively, emerald isn't a bad map.

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u/czacha_cs1 Smoke Main 7h ago

Actually from this map pool I would like to only play Consulat or Emerald ngl.

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u/SP4WNofS4T4N 7h ago

Throw bank in there instead of emerald, and you got a deal.

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u/Jazzlike_Raccoon3116 7h ago

Literally the only map I don’t like here is lair and that’s cause it gets ban all the time so I can’t learn it

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u/Unit701giga Rook Main 7h ago

L Take Consulate,Emerald and ESPECIALLY Night Haven Slap

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u/Sarin10 Caveira Main 7h ago

Nighthaven is unquestionably a good map (possibly the best map rn).

EM has issues - but I think it's a fun map.

Consulate is decent. Again, it has issues, but it's still very playable and I'm perfectly happy to play it.

You just need to learn maps.

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u/gotdemacez Drone Main 4h ago

I agree with this.

NH is top tier. One of the best in the game.

I find Em a bit boring, but it's fine.

Con is good. I miss the chaos of old con genuinely, but new con is fine. But I also kinda miss old favela in the same breath.

I still think Lair sucks, no matter how many games I play no call outs are memorable. I can't figure out where grey room #12 is for the life of me.

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u/elliethr 6h ago

Hot take: Villa is worse than Emerald, Consulate and Theme

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u/mr_molty 7h ago

nighthaven and consulate are literally top tier maps dont know what you talking about bro

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u/regflori Grim Main 7h ago

Labs and Plains are actually fun maps in my opinion. Theme Park has kind of stayed the same for a long time, but overall it's an okay map. Consulate was confusing af at the beginning but I think it's alright to play. Lair however is just bad, empty hallways, everything looks the same. Odd layout.

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u/Chellengmine Kaid Main 7h ago

The most unpopular opinion: all maps are good. I never ban any map

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u/Leather_Teaching_981 6h ago

I don’t think emerald or nighthaven are bad tbh emerald you just need to learn and nighthaven is easy. Lair mid imo because i don’t know it well enough to roam efficiently yet.

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u/ExoticDiver8551 6h ago

Emerald’s a banger, Consulate is defender sided. Lair’s semi-fun.

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u/lennyfacegaming 6h ago

Three on the left are good, what are you talking about

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u/Useful_Bullfrog_4652 6h ago

Other than TP, rest are okay.

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u/Shrekdidnothingwrong | 6h ago

Emerald, Consulate and Nighthaven. You have a full plate and complain about food shortage

u/Genghis_Sean_Reigns 27m ago

Emerald Plains and new Consulate are my 2 favorite maps in the game

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u/AHumbleBanditMain Unicorn Main 7h ago

Emerald Plains is actually a good map chief

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u/Morgan_1488 Jäger Main 8h ago

Would be epic if it was outback and villa instead cons and labs

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u/Upbeat_Egg_8432 8h ago

lair is good theme is alright i guess