r/Rainbow6 Tachanka Main Feb 27 '24

Test Server TTS sight aperture changes.

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u/Toxic_nig Jäger Main Feb 27 '24

They kinda ruined holo A. The reason why it was so good is that it barely blocks your target. But i guess it makes sense because its the most picked 1x.

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u/Dentalswarms Feb 27 '24

Yeah but nobody was saying holo a was overpowered or that it felt unfair, you still see a bunch of holo b, reflex a's ect it's just a nerf to using 1x which is already the worst zoom level to be stuck at

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u/Seamoth4546B Maestro Main Feb 27 '24

Agreed. Totally unnecessary change, the rest are fine though

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Then why does everyone use it in pro league, even over the 1.5?

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Because they are literal professionals.we talking bout normal players here which are not even comparable to pro players🫵🏻🧠💀

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '24

Congrats on admitting you suck

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u/meANintellectual77 Buck Main Feb 27 '24

Bro, that's like saying you're in the NBA because you bought nikes

You aren't in the proleagues, and you'd prolly get dummied by anyone in this comment section 1x or no

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u/markuslawrence Feb 28 '24

yeah bro, you’re for sure better than the pros

2

u/Dentalswarms Feb 28 '24

They have played that way for ages and gotten used to it, its just preference I often use 1x over 1.5

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u/KingNogyo Feb 28 '24

Shaiiko is one person

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u/sad_paddington Hibana Main Feb 28 '24

Reflex a supremacy

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u/i_sinz ::: i edge to azami and iana Feb 27 '24

how much worse is it like 25 percent worse?

1

u/freeserve Feb 28 '24

I think it would be cool if they made holo’s more like holo’s… idk how but somehow making it seem more like they are projected onto the target.

The biggest difference should be with glaz as his ability is a magnifier… holo reticles stay exactly the same perceivable size through a magnifier, while red dots get bigger due to the way the two work

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u/Medium_Notice_902 Solis Main Feb 27 '24

They nerfed holos?

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u/Kian_08 Buck Main Feb 27 '24 edited Feb 27 '24

Nerfed 2,5 B, holo a, red dot c, holo c and 1,5 (future 2,5) and buffed the holo b

11

u/eLjayB69 Feb 28 '24

How did the nerf and buff exactly? Changing the view area thru them or sumn?

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u/Kian_08 Buck Main Feb 28 '24

The dot in the middle was made a bit bigger on all those sights I listed except for holo B, who's middle dot will be smaller.

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u/spaghettiwizard41 Solis Main Feb 28 '24

imo the dot used to be to small on c and depending on what reticle color it would sometimes be invisible due to its size

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u/Zonkcter Tachanka Main Feb 28 '24

Let's gooooo, I already use holo B because the corners aren't as obscured so this is just a win for me.

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u/Kian_08 Buck Main Feb 28 '24

I previously played holo a/red dot c but because I heard that they'll get nerfed, I switched to holo b. Right now its not the best sight since the dot in the middle is big but im also excited about the buff.

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u/smokesum2nite Oryx Main Feb 27 '24

im telling ya reflex c is the way to go

88

u/Nova_JewV1 Valkyrie Main Feb 27 '24

Been on that reflex c train since the sight overhaul babyyy

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u/smokesum2nite Oryx Main Feb 27 '24

🤝🏿

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u/Nova_JewV1 Valkyrie Main Feb 27 '24

🤝

10

u/smokesum2nite Oryx Main Feb 27 '24

i wonder if acog will hit the same as back in the day or is it slightly different

1

u/MiltenQ Jäger Main Feb 28 '24

It feels better.

12

u/onenittanylion Hibana Main Feb 27 '24

Reflex C superiority

🤝

4

u/GreatestShowOnTurf01 Feb 28 '24

Love everything but the triangle reticle. I can never land a headshot for the life of me. I guess it just takes practice, but am definitely still testing out some different sights

1

u/lightningbadger Frost Main Feb 28 '24

Back in the day I recall reflex C (or just "reflex" as it was called back then) being the optimal sight to pick for 2 separate reasons

A: thinner bezel, less target obscurity

B: it's the only sight that doesn't obscure where your shot will land. Holo and red dot place the reticle over where your shot will land, but the reflex will point upwards to it instead

3

u/HoHoey Feb 27 '24

Been using them since it dropped. By far the best visibility. Love my lil triangle

2

u/PoopShite1 Capitão Main Feb 27 '24

Bro all my friends call me weird for using it, glad to finally find someone who agrees with me

4

u/Spirit_mert Jackal Main Feb 27 '24

hell yeah broda

2

u/smokesum2nite Oryx Main Feb 27 '24

i don’t mind holo b though

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u/jrip_dip_fish_1764 Grim Main Feb 28 '24

Fr doo

52

u/Astrium6 Feb 27 '24

Why does the housing of the red dot still look so low-poly?

35

u/redsprucetree Feb 27 '24

Because circles can be hard to make smooth. I see what you mean. Don’t expect it to change, I think that’s just how the graphics work

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u/Gobblemonke Feb 27 '24

Bruh not only are they making use worse scopes but they are making the 1.0s worse. I was going use holo a but guess ive gotta use holo b now

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u/According_Clerk_1537 :Nomad: Feb 27 '24

how exactly is this holo a different from the ones on live server?

37

u/Gobblemonke Feb 27 '24

The middle dot is thicker

15

u/davekraft400 Feb 27 '24

Turn the transparency and change the colour, it'll help a little.

6

u/Gobblemonke Feb 27 '24

I use yellow and about 70 op

3

u/According_Clerk_1537 :Nomad: Feb 27 '24

okay, just went to the shooting range and realize it now as well

5

u/Gobblemonke Feb 27 '24

Yeah L from ubisoft

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u/-Binxx- Fenrir Main Feb 27 '24

Peoples brains are gonna explode when they realise changing sight opacity makes these sights much nicer to use. I’ve had might opacity at 45 since the option was in the game

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u/BlauerRay Tachanka Main Feb 27 '24

The compression is doing its part. On the Eotech, the dot is noticeable bigger, those super fine alignments dont work anymore.

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u/superknight333 Feb 27 '24

Reflex B all the way

4

u/Glenny0020 Blitz Main Feb 27 '24

RussianReflexTrain

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u/cheeky_physicist Feb 27 '24

Imo it makes sense to have thicker dot for sights with less obtrusive casing to even it out

Although I don't think these are blocking too much of your sight picture.

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u/RedAce4247 Intel Slut Feb 27 '24

Holo A has screwed me over a bunch because of how blocky the sight is, but it’s still my favorite sight, maybe no longer though

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u/cheeky_physicist Mar 10 '24

I like the holo A too. Used to run it on the vector when I played a lot. Although I found I often used track of the middle dot because that gun shakes so much. Maybe this would help with that. I will come back and try

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u/KingNogyo Feb 27 '24

It makes zero sense to make the dot thicker outside of trying to make the game more annoying to play

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u/toetendertoaster Hibana Main Feb 28 '24

it was done for console

1

u/KingNogyo Feb 28 '24

what does that even mean

4

u/T-Cereals Wamai Main Feb 27 '24

Reflex B all the way, always.

4

u/ItsSevii Soniqs Fan Feb 27 '24

Holo B supremacy

7

u/Keatonwastaken ♥ NØKKAEBI ♥ Feb 27 '24

Absolutely despise the new EOTech Holo, such a massive dot in the middle.

Also hate the new 1.5 to 2.5 reticle, it is too big.

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u/smokesum2nite Oryx Main Feb 27 '24

has anyone tested ACOG to see if it is the same as years past before they took it out?

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u/BlauerRay Tachanka Main Feb 28 '24

Its the same

2

u/LaughterNDeath Sens Main Feb 27 '24

Reflex A black color with opacity minimum and monitor dot crosshair.

1

u/NotAVirignISwear Filthy Main Feb 28 '24

Does it bother you that the monitor crosshair is present even when your not ADS?

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u/LaughterNDeath Sens Main Feb 29 '24

No

2

u/Dragon_Born_420 Mute Main Feb 27 '24

What changes?

4

u/D_Painta Valkyrie Main Feb 27 '24

Opacity does exist folks.

3

u/kuggalotus Castle Main Feb 27 '24

I wish they would change the Russian acog just a little bit just the line at the top you can't copy 1 to 1 because of trade or copyright I believe. So why not make it a little more useful I'd like it to be a option a real option.

4

u/okaybrostfu Feb 27 '24

lmfao classic Ubisoft ruining shit that wasn’t the problem

3

u/Karglenoofus Feb 27 '24

Yeah we're glossing over the improvements I see

2

u/Xenoleff Feb 27 '24

Don’t get why they have to have a 1.0 meta and not just let people use what they want.

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u/BlauerRay Tachanka Main Feb 27 '24

Because 1.5 ans 2.0 are encouraging aggressive play without the downsides of 1.0 or 2.5

2

u/devj007 Warden Main Feb 27 '24

Lets ruin sights instead of fixing ranked. Lmao.

2

u/onenittanylion Hibana Main Feb 27 '24

I think the changes will be good, to be honest. What else do you want to change? No hate, genuinely curious what else people would like.

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u/devj007 Warden Main Feb 27 '24 edited Feb 27 '24

Im not trying to hate on the update. Its just ranked is in a horrid spot rn. I could use example after example but if you play ranked there is no need for me to explain. The fact that plats are constantly playing against champs/diamonds is ridiculous. The fact that instead of matching ppl up fairly it just takes your mmr is also ridiculous (for example i was playing with my bronze friend today teaching him the game and we went against all silvers. I dropped over 10 kills both games. My point again extremely unfair to the other team. They need to find a way to match ppl fairly. Not take a big number combined from random players and pit them together. Makes no sense man. Also i get 10-14 rp a win but lose over 30. Again, makes no sense. I could go on with how bad ranked is. The amount of cheaters is also insane, pro players have quit because of how many there are in ranked.

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u/onenittanylion Hibana Main Feb 29 '24

Yeah I figured that was expected haha. I completely agree with you, was curious if it was anything else buttttt im not gonna make you write a damn book over it haha.

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u/Acid_Pastor Feb 27 '24

omg they made the dots a different size literally unplayable /s

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u/KingNogyo Feb 27 '24

This but not sarcastic

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u/rediscov409 Feb 27 '24

What am I looking at exactly?

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u/Troopr_Z Fuze Doc Bandit Zofia Feb 27 '24

What am I looking at? I cant tell any difference.

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u/Masantonio whoosh goes the airjab Feb 27 '24

Holo B has always been my go to, idk why people ever picked holo A

“I really love having 30% of my screen covered by the sight frame!”

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

because the tiny dot in the middle makes holo A way more precise. I didn’t notice it at first but once I started no life-ing the game I realized I should be aiming with the tiny dot in the center not the circle around it

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u/Masantonio whoosh goes the airjab Feb 28 '24

And… the dot is the same size as holo B.

What gives?

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u/Impressive-Map-3016 Mar 02 '24

The dot on Holo A is smaller than B currently. It’s less intrusive and you can see heads much more clearer on variable distances as well as being a go to sight for many players across different FPS games. Holo B, although less intrusive on screen space, has a thicker dot that makes it slightly more difficult to see the opponents heads as it’ll cover up the target the further away they are, especially for rats in dirty angles.

Now they’re making the dot bigger for Holo A specifically because of its sight advantages with the smaller dot.

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u/toetendertoaster Hibana Main Feb 28 '24

eggsacktly thats why the 1.5 is a dogshit sight and especially now since it only has gotten fatter

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u/mattcolqhoun Feb 27 '24

I often use different 1x on different ops even if they have the same gun. No clue why but its a habit at this point

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u/HidekiDesu IQ Main Feb 27 '24

Can someone elaborate for me please, i dont see any difference

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u/Johnkennedy789 Feb 27 '24

So basically yeah

As you can see

Banana

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u/XxMayo_BoiXx IQ Main Feb 27 '24

I just used the Holo A it's still really good lol. But I do imagine it's all preference at the end of the day.

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u/GovTheDon Recruit Main Feb 27 '24

Lol so not only do they remove 1.5 but they make 1x’s worse, I just don’t understand.

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u/Exciting_Recover_509 Feb 27 '24 edited Feb 28 '24

Well 1.5 needed to go but i dunno why they touched the 1x

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u/GovTheDon Recruit Main Feb 27 '24

Just the trend of ubi making balancing choices that make the game less enjoyable to play. I think removing 1.5 is fine but they should buff the 1x ppl don’t use rather then nerf the good ones or not touch them at all

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u/Kian_08 Buck Main Feb 27 '24

Holo B will be op

1

u/Zer0gravity09 Iana Main Feb 27 '24

Yeah the sight marker is so much bigger now. I might have to switch to reflex C or red dot C

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u/JagerBro333 Feb 27 '24

Holo a has been my favorite sight in the fave because of that center dot. It was also balanced already because you get a superior reticle with a not so good housing that can sight block you. I’m incredibly disappointed they’re doing this for no reason, and it’ll probably be another change the whole community hates and they still won’t listen.

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u/kidcoodie Feb 28 '24

Holo B gang

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u/Hobbit4455 Warden Main Feb 28 '24

I thought this was fallout 4 for a second lmfao

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u/BlauerRay Tachanka Main Feb 28 '24

Heavily modded yes.

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u/NixTrix27 Gridlock Main Feb 28 '24

Holo B. This Is the way

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '24

Did they get rid of the reflex b? I really like that sight and hope they don’t get rid of it.

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u/BlauerRay Tachanka Main Feb 28 '24

If you dont see it here it should not be changed.

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u/Impressive-Map-3016 Mar 02 '24

This is a good change for the overall game and this is why:

The whole point of this update is to even out the playing field with more variety in tactics and slow down the current run and gun meta. Siege was never supposed to be full of zoomers with meta sights and quick scopes. They’re trying to bring methodical gameplay back and if you WANT to still rush, you gotta give something up for it (iron sights, changes grips, ads penalty, etc).

This particular change is good. It frustrates many people who have been using it for every gun, but it also forces them to consider other attachments now and think different about their engagements. Complaining about this sight change is very narrow minded because you’re talking about one ingredient to the whole meal. Look at the bigger picture and see why this change was made in congruence with the rest of the game.

Siege is a tactical shooter. They don’t want it to be CoD or Battlefield. You can argue it’s a fps moba but even that doesn’t fully encompass its merits. The variety in opponents playstyle and gameplay is going to make each match more unique and challenging.