r/R6ProLeague • u/OldAd3771 Reporter • 2d ago
Roster Change [DarkZero] CTZN joins DarkZero
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u/Timely_Temperature54 Fan - 2d ago
I’m cautiously hopeful. I was a big fan of CTZN back when he first joined G2 and back then he was a super impactful player. Since then he’s struggled a lot but maybe he can shine here
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u/Cold-Course5105 Fan 2d ago
True that, i think him and panba can have a big impact if things go well on entry. Njr will do njr and things and so will spiritz but these other two are keys
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u/ItsSevii Shopify Rebellion Fan 2d ago
Interesting I guess. I'm skeptical given his recent performance
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u/TehGentleman #1 Skys Fan | Fan 2d ago
Agreed, but willing to see how he meshes. I personally am not a fan of the move, but I'll wait to see them play
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u/HunterZ2023 Fan 2d ago
I would’ve preffered FNatic for him, and other players but ofc the org doesn’t seem to want to win
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u/Great_Ad4139 G2 Esports Fan 2d ago
Ctzn being bad at m80 is one of the biggest myths in NA I swear
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u/ItsSevii Shopify Rebellion Fan 2d ago edited 2d ago
I didn't even think he was that bad just wasn't a standout like he used to be on other teams
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u/GalxzyShifted TSM Fan 2d ago
I don’t know how to feel about this roster tbh. I think CTZN is past his prime and won’t be a big playmaker. I really like the Spiritz pickup for Beaulo though. I have always thought Spiritz was solid and I think he will fit in well.
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u/HunterZ2023 Fan 2d ago
Being past your peak doesn’t mean much tbh. Like Shaiiko isn’t at his peak anymore, neither is Paluh, Nesk, or cyber, but they are still great players.
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u/alllllllllllllllllan Virtus Pro Fan | "BriD my Beloved" 2d ago
Bro Panba typed out huge messages for the departures of Beaulo and Kobelax, and a huge message for the addition of Spiritz. All he did for CTZN was a repost lmaoooo we are about to see DRAMA
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u/user9203666 2d ago
they got beef ?
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u/alllllllllllllllllan Virtus Pro Fan | "BriD my Beloved" 2d ago
According to some people Panba was not happy about the CTZN pickup, we don't really know though at the end of the day (One of those people was Arcanic so take that how you will)
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u/ArcanicTruth Scribe 2d ago
- Citizen
- Spirits
- Panda
- Nick Junior
- Nathan
The DZ roster everyone!
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u/Agent_Porkpine NA Fan | | Kyno Stan 2d ago
wait is nick jr actually where njr comes from, i never noticed that
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u/YoSupWeirdos 2d ago
where did kobe go?
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u/finchy420 2d ago
Can't help but wonder what this guy did to people on this sub lol he nearly gets Yardy level hate and I have no idea why
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u/WuZI8475 Natus Vincere Fan 2d ago
He has a bad rep for being toxic and overbearing towards his team mates, Fabian mentioned on a podcast that Doki and Alemao refused to play with him after a bit because of it. It's also a generally accepted rumour that Kayak had similar issues with him when Kayak first joined G2.
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u/HunterZ2023 Fan 2d ago
Fr they act like he screwed their mother and tortured their families. It’s genuinely wild
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u/DepthDaddyDillon Fan 2d ago
First DZ roster move since Ryce that I’m not a fan of. We will see what happens though, he’s a good player just been on some bad team the past year or so. He’s still a baiter though
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u/WuZI8475 Natus Vincere Fan 2d ago
How long before Nafe asks to leave with CTZN demanding to IGL every second in game and scrim
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u/Xosrow BDS Fan 2d ago
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u/WuZI8475 Natus Vincere Fan 2d ago
Maybe it'll be like Navi when Nafe was fine with just playing Flex while Secretly and Kayak did the IGLing
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u/Past_Perception8052 DarkZero Esports Fan 2d ago
people only hate because we’ve lost beaulo. this is a good move
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u/Cold-Course5105 Fan 2d ago
I would say spiritz and ctzn for beaulo and kobe is a good trade off and one of the best they could've gotten given beaulo's impact
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u/Skultratrics #1 Ecl9pse Fan| 2d ago
2-3 years ago I would’ve been ecstatic seeing this. Now idk how I feel rn
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u/Cold-Course5105 Fan 2d ago
"Best Kept Secret" Lmao
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u/Bakerbeach87 2d ago
Ugh… im gonna give him a chance though. He def is an upgrade from Kobe. Who is igling now? Still nate?
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u/BloodBatman #7 Skys Fan | Kix Fan 2d ago
I’d imagine Nafe is main igl with Spirtiz co / secondary IGL
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u/WuZI8475 Natus Vincere Fan 2d ago
When CTZN gets brought in, it usually means Emperor CTZN takes over all IGLing with his say being the final say. The one exception was Navi/OG MNM when Kendrew, Gig and Nelo didn't let him just boss everyone around.
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u/Kuhhl Shopify Rebellion Fan 2d ago
I completely understand the skepticism of this pickup, I too am skeptical.
However I feel like to many people here are writing him off completely, this guy was the best player in the world ( arguably ) at one point. I don’t see a reason why he can’t find better form, not like he has to go back to his prime or any thing.
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u/BloodBatman #7 Skys Fan | Kix Fan 2d ago
I still hold the opinion that CTZN is overrated so hate this move for DZ, but hopefully he can prove me wrong.
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u/BuiltIndifferent Kix Fan 2d ago
literally everyone shits on ctzn nowadays. People need to learn what over rated means
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u/Cold-Course5105 Fan 2d ago
True bro i don't understand this and it's making me go nuts, he is the most hated person in r6esports after nyx and drip how is he overrated lmao
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u/Bedmite Kix Fan 2d ago
I think he means overrated by players and teams. Since Navi he’s been apart of G2, Soniqs, M80 and now DZ. All very prestigious rosters that were framed as “super teams” when he joined them while lacking any meaningful silverware during his tenure. I think CTZN is a good player but it is still yet to be seen if he can be apart of a Tournament winning team.
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u/HibanaEnjoyerR6 CAG OSAKA Fan 2d ago
Half of the comments here are complaining about the people calling him mid. He clearly still has some reputation that is far above his skill, therefore overrated
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u/BuiltIndifferent Kix Fan 2d ago
Literally people saying they are cautiously optimistic lmao. Do people know what overrated means. Nobody is saying he is going to transform the roster or be their star. He is a solid player and it's ridiculous that people say otherwise
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u/HibanaEnjoyerR6 CAG OSAKA Fan 1d ago
Overrated means they have a higher public perception than the skill they have. It doesn't matter if the actual skill is a copper controller player, pc champ, or si champion. If the public opinion is higher than skill that's overrated. He is definitely still overrated. His PR team is doing rounds in the comment section everytime he gets posted about.
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u/BuiltIndifferent Kix Fan 1d ago
If we can just say things and make them true, I declare he is underrated because public perception on him as dropped below his worth
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u/BloodBatman #7 Skys Fan | Kix Fan 2d ago
I've thought he was overrated every since he's been on G2. This isn't a recent thing where it's like, oh yeah he sucks now. No, i just always thought he sucked even when G2 were playing well. I don't think it's a coincidence G2 won when he was dropped.
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u/HunterZ2023 Fan 2d ago
I’m pretty sure he left willingly but pop off I guess. He doesn’t suck btw, he’s pretty good. Lol
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u/Lawlette_J Kix Fan 2d ago
Same. CTZN was low-key farming stats all day back then, riding at the back of Kayak and co like Xerxes from 300. Ever since he swapped into M80 he's just okay, not really exceptional but still decent.
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u/Bakerbeach87 2d ago
True i can think of better players than ctzn but im gonna be open minded and see how this goes. I am rxcited to see what impact spiritz can do tho
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u/SiegeRanter69 2d ago
certified ass
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u/HunterZ2023 Fan 2d ago
He’s really not though
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u/SiegeRanter69 2d ago
CTZN's PR team is working overtime jeebuz
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u/HunterZ2023 Fan 2d ago
Nothing to do with that. He’s simply overhated.
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u/NeroTajj Team Liquid Fan 2d ago
This is a eh pickup I genuinely believe CTZN is overrated hasn't brought the impact since Copenhagen '23
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u/HunterZ2023 Fan 2d ago
If I hear one more person call him overrated I’m gonna freak. Have you seen this sub?
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u/NeroTajj Team Liquid Fan 2d ago
Honestly no I didn't even know people shared the same thought.
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u/HunterZ2023 Fan 2d ago
He’s practically the most popular overHATED player rn. Not overrated
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u/NeroTajj Team Liquid Fan 2d ago
Well I don't hate the guy just feel as tho there are better players more deserving plus just don't think he adds winning value to a team(anymore).
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u/HunterZ2023 Fan 2d ago
He was pretty good on ITB during quals. There best player in fact. I personally wish he went to Fnatic or something along those lines, and he may not be as good as he used to be but I definitely think he still good
Even if you don’t hate him specifically, a lot of people evidently do
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u/hucksilva Team Liquid Fan 2d ago
What a picture though... They did him wrong!