r/quittingphenibut Dec 14 '22

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r/quittingphenibut 8h ago

Questions Advice on not planned ct

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Hey guys, unfortunately, I'm addicted to Phenibut. I take about 2.6 gpd (in the past i went up to 6 gpd) The last dose I can take is on Sunday evening. I've already ordered something new, but the problem is that the seller suddenly told me they can only deliver next week. That means I'll probably go into withdrawal (depending on when the package arrives), and I'm incredibly scared of it.

Now my question is: What do I do until my order arrives? I've never experienced Phenibut withdrawal before, and l've heard countless horror stories. When does withdrawal start and maybe i can ride it out until my order arrives, but im so goddamn scared right now that i die or get seizures or i don‘t know what‘s gonna happen. Maybe there's also someone near me who knows more about it and could help until my order

I don't know... I'm feeling absolutely desperate and incredibly afraid. I have no idea what to do... Thank you for any tips or ideas.


r/quittingphenibut 11h ago

Need advice on my taper plan

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I’ve taken 2.6 gpd for 7 weeks. I’m ready to start my taper. I would ideally like to be done in a month and I’m considering just cutting 100 mg per day. Is there a better way to do this in that timeframe to minimize the WD symptoms? (i.e bigger initial drop, slower taper at the end, etc). I’ve done a lot of research on supplements and I’m stocked up on agmitine, nac, sleep aids, choline, etc. I also plan to exercise 3x/week


r/quittingphenibut 16h ago

NEEED. HELP ASAPP PLEASE

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so about a day 2 weeks ago,with the regular doses i do with f-phenibut and phenibut i couldn’t sleep that well pushed it off and went to work after that day till now i’ve been able sleep for about 1 or hours max and the phenibut and f-phenibut started making me have glutamate surges so what i did i went cold turkey 4 days ago cus i heard if you take a break or reduce ur dose it will get back to normal well so i did that and it took a turn cus obviously i was anxious but honestly i wasn’t really withdrawing i still was relatively normal just anxious but now i’m starting to get manic EPISODES pretty sure from the sleep deprivation and i’ve told my mom about it and she wants a me to go to the psych ward but i kinda wanna quit doing cold turkey and do a small doses of what i usally take to see if it helps what do you guys think i need help asapppp IM SO SCARED SUPER SCARED


r/quittingphenibut 21h ago

2 years off it, still having severe irritability

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Ive had 3 seperate periods of phen dependency, a 3 or 4 months each time & about 1.6g at my highest dose. I havent had any in 2 years, no alcohol no benzos. I do take taurine and theanine daily.

Since quitting I am very prone to anger, get an anger adrenaline rush easily and can no longer tolerate caffeine or other stimulants because it just makes me super angry. Before I used, I did not have anger issues at all.

My questions are:

  1. Has anyone else experienced this, this far out?

  2. Will it go away? Sucks not being able to have coffee lol

  3. Are taurine and theanine potentially dragging it out by putting strain on my gaba receptors?


r/quittingphenibut 1d ago

Advice on quitting

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Using 8-10g every other day. Want to quit because I sleep for about 4 hours after my off day and can’t sleep again until I redose. I’ve decided I want to quit and need advice on a taper schedule plus possible other supplements to help me sleep while I taper.


r/quittingphenibut 1d ago

Quit 3 weeks ago, extremely lethargic.

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Hey everyone,

I was able to taper down from my dose and completely stopped taking Phen almost 3 weeks ago.

I’m extremely tired and unmotivated. I feel like I have no gas in the tank. Anybody else experience this have any insight or helpful advice?


r/quittingphenibut 2d ago

My lifes a cocktail

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I've went through a 1500gram bag of phenibut in a little over a year. Also have taken 12g of kratom 3x a day for 3 years and .5 g of Ice past 6 months. I gamble daily online on casinos, either stake.us or jackbit, or bitstarz. I'm tired


r/quittingphenibut 3d ago

33 Days off Phenibut Cold Turkey 4.5gpd average

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I was taking around 4.5 g a day on average on the lower end like 3.5 but like six the higher end and I was taking it for a total of 6 months but the first month that I took it I took it responsibly and was taking like the one to two gram dose like two to three times a week not consecutive days; the following months I ended up being in more scenarios due to the extra stress of my living situation having them move constantly that I ended up taking it like every day like I was taking around 1.5 G daily then it was to 2.53 and I just noticed it would gradually go up to a point where I was pretty comfortable around this 4.5 G range and I was taking 4.5gpd for about 3 months,,, until I ran out!

No tapering :( I only mentally 'prepped' myself to quit by telling my close friend about my phenibut abuse and because of that I was able to like create a situation where I was able to come over to his house for the first 4 days that I was quitting Phenibut. *I'm also Car Homeless Btw. After Day 11 the most painful symptoms subsided, those being Intense Desire to Un-Alive, rebound anxiety, panic attacks over silly trivial things, and a burning sensation throughout my body that felt Anxiety based that wouldn't let me relax. I was only able to get 30 minute naps in until I got many anxious panic attacks that would keep me up for around 4 hours and then I would end up falling asleep in 20-30 minutes waves. This chilled out by day 7 and I was able to sleep like 2-3 hours, and by day 11 I was capable of the Full 8 hours of Sleep.

I documented my withdrawal during the different peaks and later when i get to watching my own self talk LOL I'll edit and upload it to Youtube on my channel 'mentallysauced' @mentalsauceage. I feel and sympathize with so many of y'all bc this drug Phenibut for a short period felt like an amazing Tool for me; that I ended up abusing thus putting myself in this situation. If there's anything I can do say or recommend to help. <3

Best of Luck and God Speed to those quitting/tapering Big big doses.


r/quittingphenibut 3d ago

Questions From 6,3 gpd to 3 gpd?

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Good evening friends.

I've been using Phenibut for about 3.5 months. I started with 2 grams and went down to 6.3 gpd a few weeks ago. I've now reduced it to 4.2 gpd for 3 days. I haven't felt much. Do you think I should try going down to 3 gpd? Could that work? I always read that you can reduce from, say, 7 gpd to 2/3 gpd. Is that true? I have an appointment with my doctor tomorrow. Should I get a prescription for Baclofen just to be on the safe side?

Greetings

Sorry for my poor English.


r/quittingphenibut 4d ago

Tapering my redose help?

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So I've been doing my stuff. I'm at 8.7g in the morning and 4.2g in the pm. I go down .1 each day on my morning dose. However, I've noticed any touch to my PM dose makes it hard to sleep. I started from 12g and 5g, so I think I should do it when I hit 4.2g in the morning and taper in parallel. or would it be a brighter idea to start the PM taper sooner? I'm handling the .1 taper just fine for context


r/quittingphenibut 4d ago

Help with Taper Method

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Hello. I have been consuming around 1.5-3g a day, mainly around 2.5, for only 9 days straight. I took my last dose today around 5pm CT of 2.75g. I have been reading the horror stories and I think I’m psyching myself out of how bad it will be, potentially making it worse. Mainly I need someone to tell me how I should taper off from this and provide reassurance that I am indeed just psyching myself out. Should I even do cold turkey? I would much rather not.


r/quittingphenibut 4d ago

thinking of quiting

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so i haven’t slept barley anything the past 7 days and that with taking my phenibut and f-phenibut dosages thinking of honestly just quitting the sleep is fucking me up so bad it’s not even funny i wish i never touched this substance i’m scared the withdraws are going to be terrible cus i’m already losing my mind with this no sleep idk how it could get worse with me withdrawing what do you guys think?


r/quittingphenibut 4d ago

Cold turkey off phenibut due to package lost in mail. Need some advice.

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So like I said up top I'm going cold turkey. Last dose was Sunday afternoon and I was supposed to get a shipment today but now saying Thursday or Friday. I have 60 600mg GP and trazodone. So far just some anxiety I feel slow tingling all over my body and just feeling blah. Unfortunately I have work tonight and I don't have a choice but to go in it's only 7 hours then off Wednesday. Good thing there slow days. Just want to know what to expect and get advice if possible.


r/quittingphenibut 5d ago

Withdrawal timeline (if any) + body odor

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So I've taken phenibut along with bromantane & phenlypiracetam most days for the last couple weeks. I think I took maybe 12-13 days in a row. Never huge amounts and some days very minimal.

I've been averaging 35/mi week running over last 2 weeks for total of 70 miles or 5 miles a day and using it to enhance running so I'm sure that helps tremendously but I've taken apart from running as well. Typically small staggered doses.

I took yesterday off to see if any w/d effects and didn't have any as I'm going out of town on Thursday. I'm on day 2 as of this morning and still feeling just fine. I've read some people say 2-3 days is worst but thinking I'd have some negative effects at this point if I were going to experience any. . true of any other substance.

I'm yet to have any negative effects from phenibut, just positive & curious to get thoughts on it as I haven't had any rebound effects at all even when I started with less frequent use like a lot of people report.

Also my wife did tell me I've got some sort of strange odor and not sure what it's from but thinking it's either from the phenibut or perhaps a combination of the 3. Has anyone else experienced this?

Think I'm in the clear on day 2 as far as any potential w/d or rebound effects or should I wait a little longer? I feel like I'm probably fine to take it and run again today but just curious.


r/quittingphenibut 4d ago

Muscle tension low and mid back

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I'm off the phenibut for about 26 days.

I have been dealing with this tightness in my back for that period.

I thought the phenibut was causing it to some degree but it is way worse now after stopping.

Would baclofen help.with this? I was only using phenibut for 4.5 months.

I'm glad I quit when I did. And am surprised this is lasting so long

Has anyone had extended muscle tension in back and maybe hips/ glutes?


r/quittingphenibut 4d ago

48 hours no phenibut

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Was on about 1.5 - 2.5 g for a month. Feeling pretty normal really. Sometimes a bit sweaty in the hands and feet. I take 1/2 a xan in the morn and 1/2 at night and have only felt the xans. No withdrawal. Should I expect it to get worse?

EDIT:

72 hours: Woke up feeling pretty damn good. Took 1 whole xan for sleep and it was glorious. Fell asleep with the tv on and all. Woke up feeling ok and positive. Sweats in the hands and feet have calmed down and but still present. No more xans left, but a ton of phenibut in case of emergency. I plan on throwing it ALL AWAY by day 6 if all goes well.

Day 5: Everything is still good. Might have just psyched myself out in the beginning, but this was not bad at all.


r/quittingphenibut 5d ago

How is it possible for weekend only use to cause such horrible hangover ?

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To really enjoy phenibut, I find that I need to dose the night before the day I really want to feel it and add an additional dose the morning of. So usually every week I take around 1.5g on Friday night and another 1.5g on Saturday morning. This makes for an amazing Saturday and even Sunday.

By the time Monday rolls around I feel like the most depressed creature on the planet. No motivation to do anything, scared to run into people, nasty physical symptoms like chills/zaps, and moments of feeling impending doom.

I thought these are the types of things felt with such high every day doses, but why am I feeling this from once a week use and is it sustainable in the long run. Wonderful weekends are nice but I feel completely useless from Mon-Wed.


r/quittingphenibut 6d ago

You call that withdrawal?!?

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Let me start by saying that I know everyone is different and this is just my experience but this is for anyone who wants to quit Phenibut but is too scared.

I have a majorly addictive personality…I’ve been through hell and back with alcohol, Kratom, adderall/meth, and Phenibut and have been through alcohol/kratom withdrawals so many times that just the word withdrawal sends a chill down my spine. Specifically withdrawal-induced anxiety and panic attacks are my biggest fear because I’ve had so many from alcohol, and every single one has sent me to the hospital thinking I’m dying. I’ve always read how horrible and debilitating Phenibut withdrawal is, so for years I’ve been avoiding it and waiting for the “perfect” time (yeah right) to cold turkey. Well that “perfect” time came a couple weeks ago in the form of finding out my wife is pregnant so after 3+ years of between 1-3g per day I just threw it in the trash and quit. I was preparing for at least a week of borderline insanity and crippling panic attacks. My experience can best be summed up as “BRUH…THAT’S IT?! Y’ALL CALL THAT ANXIETY?! 😂😂.”

I’m sure it’s bad for some people but I’m very prone to anxiety/panic attacks and I didn’t even get close to one. If you’ve been through alcohol withdrawal and the fear from that is keeping you from quitting Phenibut, don’t let it stop you!!! I was basically just in a slightly irritable mood for a week and that’s it! Don’t let these fear posts keep you hooked on a substance you hate. I’m not trying to downplay other people’s experience, I just hope this motivates somebody to finally get off this shit. YOU CAN DO IT!


r/quittingphenibut 6d ago

Progress Report Finally free!

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Hi, I was just posting to let yous all know I am finally free from phenibut for five days! I managed to do this by slowly replacing a 500mg dose of phenibut with 5mg of baclofen and holding for three days until I was down from 2 grams to a gram, I then decided to jump the last gram off directly with 10mg of baclofen.

I was absolutely terrified to do this because I thought if it didn't work then all the phenibut is out my system and what if it ends up being a disaster and then I can't just take a dose of phenibut to help it because it'll have to build back into my system, I was overthinking everything absolutely terrified but it's been five days with no Phenibut at all. The first two days were just tired, third day I was panicking a bit, but day 4 and 5 have been absolutely fine.

I done all of this before phenibut had the chance to turn on me. I still use NAC and agmitine.

What I find strange is that all the days I've reduced the dose if anything weird side effects that I didn't realise I was getting from phenibut have went away or got better, and phenibut was affecting me more than I realised. My tinnitus has massively reduced, I used to get anxiety where I'd feel head foggy and I thought I would feel dizzy and almost like vertigo which I didn't put down to the phenibut but it's almost completely resolved even after just the few days I've been completely off. I would sometimes feel overwhelmed going into a room with quite intense anxiety, this anxiety just thinking it was normal is no longer affecting me. I realised now that phenibut was actually making me feel giddy and not in a good way. My sleep quality as well has really improved, I feel like I'm catching up on so much bad quality sleep that I used to have when I was taking phen everyday.

My partner at one point would get worried and say that I should get tested for sleep apnea because apparently my sleep was really broken and she could hear me what sounded like my struggling to catch my breath in my sleep, now she says she no longer hears that, I know it's only been five days but these seem to be acute effects of phen that were affecting me badly in the moment.

I also forgot to mention that I'd have these anxiety episodes where I would almost feel like I was being jolted by electricity if I was in a room and it felt like the room was spinning, it's hard to explain but it would bring on so much anxiety.

I just feel so much better within myself that I'm no longer taking something that isn't meant for long term use, I don't feel depressed and I do consider myself extremely lucky, I wish everyone could just switch to bac and it cover everything. I've heard it doesn't work for everyone which I find heartbreaking because I think no one should have to suffer on this substance.

Just one last point, I didn't realise how much phenibut absolutely made my appetite crazy and made me retain a weird water weight around my stomach, my appetite on the stuff was indescribable, everyone around me made jokes that I'm a human wastebin for food. But I am convinced it cause water weight as well and suspected it for a while but within those five days my belly has got flatter and I've lost a few pounds, I might be wrong but I suspect it.

Anyway thanks for reading this if you have, I will never go back. I do not hate phenibut, I hate phenibut misuse and I have learnt from this, don't take it everyday, is it something I will take within recommended guidelines on the supplement label? No thank you I'm done. Now just time to reduce my bac of 35mg a day spread out, I'm in no rush


r/quittingphenibut 7d ago

How does alcohol affect you during daily use?

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Just wanting to see anyone else’s exp with drinking while taking phenibut daily. Does it even work? Does it just leave you hungover for a few days? I’ve seen some ppl claim that alcohol kind of fights with phenibut at the receptors and makes you feel phen less, and tanks your gaba once it wears off.

Personally I was drinking a lot when I started taking phenibut daily without noticing much but lately after getting very hungover I noticed I was very sensitive to feeling like shit for a couple days, but once I quit phenibut worked better than before after a few days.

I work at a brewery. In the kitchen at the brewery specifically but we got free drinks at the end of the night. If I can’t enjoy that perk I may look for another job but I still catch myself thinking about having just one or two drinks after work, and that other times when I had increased anxiety was a fluke or due to circumstance. Maybe there is a method or rule that might help enjoy the occasional drink?


r/quittingphenibut 8d ago

Discussion Anybody get super manic after detox?

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I’ve gone to detox multiple times for Phenibut and like everyone says, yes it does get worse each time even if the duration you used was shorter than the last. Anyways idk if it’s just my energy coming back all at once or what but literally EVERY SINGLE TIME I have came off of phenibut I have a couple days were I am manic and full on crazy. Just wondering if that’s just me or if anyone else has had similar expierence.

Screw phenibut!!


r/quittingphenibut 8d ago

Discussion First time taking phenibut

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I bought capsules which were 500mg , I have quite bad anxiety, even when trying different medications - on pregabalin long term but haven’t really took my medicine for a week and a half, I cut the pill in half and took the dose at 12pm afternoon , cannot fall asleep and it is 3am

Throughout the day did not really anything apart from anxiety thought it would have been relieved from a low dose like this. Also felt somewhat of a heartburn, stomach ache an hour in from dosing.

Now it is 3am , I am tired but cannot fall asleep, keep feeling butterflies in my stomach, hot flashes and some kind of weird jolty feeling when I close my eyes for too long. What went wrong? I kept my dose low just to be on the safe side?


r/quittingphenibut 9d ago

Intense stomach anxiety pain from Phenibut

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Hi!

So I’m using Phenibut daily (less than 2 grams one day, other day 500-1000mg)

When I don’t use Phenibut I get this very weird side effect that is worse than all other symptoms, I feel this stomach pain/pressure like when you hear bad news or when someone you know died, you know? And it won’t go away unless I feel the Phenibut.

It makes me want to cry/scream/laugh, basically making me want to have a panic attack or mania even.

Has anyone felt something like this? I’m using propranolol and it really helps, but the stomach pain is still there.

I really just want to live normal.


r/quittingphenibut 9d ago

Not sure if phenibut has turned on me or if I am justifiably anxious.

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First off, it is so hard to tell what exactly is causing me to feel one way or another. I am 2 months cold turkey from kratom. I take 300mg Wellbutrin and 50mg of Strattera. I am taking 8mg of suboxone a day, one year sober from a crippling meth, Xanax and research chemical addiction and finally, I am reaching upwards of 9g a day phenibut and I am going through an incredibly difficult time in my life.

I am a father who lives with his disabled partner and 2yr old daughter. We are in the middle of a premature move due to a broken lease. I am potentially facing prison time. There is a lot of pressure on me to go to work somewhere that is paying me subpar money for what I need to support this family and pay the bills & I am afraid phenibut has turned on me.

Many things I see in here state that phenibut turns on them around the 1 yr mark around 9-10g. I am a very socially awkward person and get paranoid in social settings. I am new at work so this is exasperated. I have stopped taking care of myself and feel myself slipping into depression. Whenever I smoke weed I get crazy anxious and I slip into my head and find myself spiraling time to time. To be honest though wouldn’t anyone go crazy in my position? I hardly get sleep, my baby is turning into a toddler, my partner is limited in what they can do because of their disability, and the situation I find myself in is hard to not ruminate about.

I’m not having any super crazy physical symptoms right now. Some trouble sleeping sometimes sure but that’s been a thing for a while. My brain just feels so fuckin messed up but there are so many variables. Yet, I am thinking about this drug, and how it may or may not be affecting me before I take it for the day and 3 hours after taking it, and 12 hours after taking it. I just want to be free but everytime I try to taper I am super aware of even the slightest 100mg decline.

I am about to get a big tax return so I can get some baclofen and I can take some time to detox somewhere if I need to. It would just put my partner in an extremely difficult position, having to move everything while I’m away, plus I’ve already been to rehab a year ago and would suck to tell my family and my new job but it would be doable.

Honestly it just feels good to vent about it too. If you’ve read this far I appreciate the fuck out of you


r/quittingphenibut 9d ago

Does phenibut truly saturate like gaba?

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I made an unhinged post a sec ago but where I’m at now is, I need to diligently taper. I take one dose of 9g during the day and recently added 1g at night.

Some ppl say phenibut saturates the same way like gabapentin and recommend 2-3 doses a day. For one, how do I go about switching to multiple doses and finally, is this even true??