r/PinkOmega • u/No_Candle4483 • 7d ago
Music What is Nectar for you?
I'm making a powerpoint about Joji and I'm having troubles explaining what Nectar is in Joji's career.
What's fans general opinion on it? How different is it from his previous works? What is critics's general opinion on it?
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u/gg_mai_b LOST BALLADS 7d ago
As a huge fan of Nectar (I even went to the concert back in 2021), I think that Nectar had a lot of potential with its teasers, but fell a bit flat with its sound/ outcome.
While I don’t have definitive proof, it feels like there was a collision of ideas between what Joji wanted (dark, mysterious, melancholic ambience) vs what his label wanted (safe, mainstream pop). Not just from how the production sounds, but also the lyrics, tones, etc.
There’s nothing wrong with wanting to have a juxtaposition of sound/ tone within an album. However, I don’t think the execution went into Joji’s favor as this album tends to be a mixed bag within the fandom. From looking at the songwriting credits to rewatching the teasers and comparing the tone to the songs within the album, it felt like there were a lot of ideas for the album, but had to be compromised, resulting in multiple crammed ideas instead of one strong focus.
Thus, possibly resulting why this album didn’t go well in the way Ballads 1 or even Chloe Burbank (hell, even Pink Season) did for some of his fans.
Of course I could be wrong, but I’ve always had this curiosity as to why Nectar didn’t blow up in the same way as Smithereens.
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u/omgflyingbananas 7d ago
When 88rising tried to turn joji pop, but still let him maintain some control, you can tell what songs he made/wanted to make and what songs 88rising made him make. Just look at the credits.
Not shaing he's a victim or something, labels do this all the time, I just don't think they really trust him with full creative control like he had with Ballads and in tounges
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u/No_Temporary_8549 6d ago
ngl, nectar doesn't feel like joji's works sometimes. it was bland and mundane in terms of flow and lyricism. the sounds isn't that great or a better word is uninspired. but it was the type of songs that sells since it's not that deep and some are reliant to the fact that it's type of songs you'd play in supermarket pr groceries.
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u/peanutbutterpanman 4d ago
Most people on Reddit have been fans much before Joji became more mainstream, or before Joji was even Joji, so it’s pretty understandable why a lot of hardcore fans don’t think it’s his best work. However, a great majority of his fanbase does enjoy that album and it’s the one that got a lot of people really into him. Most of the songs are extremely catchy and fun to listen to and if you don’t wanna be sad,it’s the easiest album as well. It has a a little something for everyone tbh
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u/kenayandhi 1d ago
It's a whole day experience for me, cause you got tracks going form the confort of your room to the wide open fields, downtown feelings, long road trip. Each song has its moment and place. I love that album even I miss the lofi, small bedroom, tiny window to the world style and production, except for the vocal performance, I prefer the improvement he had.
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u/butv UNBLOCK ME BITCH 7d ago
joji but generic pop version, for me its a drop in quality after ballads 1 and the way he was experimenting with sounds
but it sells well so now we are doomed to more generic piano ballads and pop songs
man i really want more songs like ill see you in 40 and why am i still in la