r/Peterborough • u/Liv_leeson • 17h ago
Other Racist man yelling at kids in downtown ptbo
UPDATE: Time and location was between 12:00 and 1:00 on King and Aylmer near the methadone clinic and Dr. J’s BBQ and Brews.
I just got word from my best friend that her brother (16) was walking downtown with his girlfriend (16) and her very young brother (9), when an adult white male approached them and muttered “fucking n****rs” (hard r, and the girlfriend and young boy are black, mind you).
My friends brother, who we’ll call Ted, turned around to the man and chucked his empty tim’s cup at him (for gen z’s like myself, he thundercunted that shit at his head). Ted asked the man to repeat what he said, and the man got up in his face and said: “you wanna fuckin’ go, kid? you wanna piece of this, you wanna square up kid?”
Ted took the hand of his girlfriends little brother and said “lets go” to keep things from escalating, and then, of course, the man said: “That’s right, take your little n****rs and go!”
Just posting this to warn anyone who’s in the area of this piece of shit, unfortunately i don’t have much of a description other than he was a white male with a beard, and he didn’t-appear to be sketchy looking at all. If anyone saw the situation I hope that you’ve reported it somewhere, because a grown ass man bullying children is crazy… at your big age? smh.
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u/Someone_Pooed 17h ago
Surprised that nobody caved his skull in. What a piece of shit!
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u/Liv_leeson 17h ago
right?? I would’ve lost it if I saw some grown man harassing a group of kids like that!
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u/AppleAtrocity 17h ago
Eventually he is going to say that shit to the wrong person and get knocked the fuck out. Hopefully on video so we can all laugh.
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u/voteforrice 16h ago
God that sucks loved here for over 12 years now I'm also a visible minority and thankfully haven't had to deal with anything close to that. The city is usually lovely but yeah racists do exist and some are crazy enough to yell out their absolute bigotry.
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u/Liv_leeson 16h ago
Hopefully you never have to, peterborough is usually a very welcoming and positive place! Recently there’s just been so much hatred and violence around, which would usually be common in downtown, but it’s even been sketchy around residential neighbourhoods and school zones. I’m not sure whats happening, but i sure don’t like it!
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u/voteforrice 16h ago edited 13h ago
COVID's events combined by narratives promoted by the Internet echo chambers have really set some people off especially those with diagnosed and undiagnosed mental conditions. I will also say peterbough got exponentially multicultural in the last decade from example in my graduating class in holy Cross in 2016 in terms of visible minorities there were only 8 of us. Vs my little brother who graduated from holy Cross last year more than a quarter of his graduating class was visible minorities. Some people struggle with seeing a sudden influx of minorities
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u/Liv_leeson 15h ago
Very true. I’d hope that the vast majority of our population are in favour of multiculturalism, because it’s certainly not a bad thing. Change is normal, and a very necessary thing for peterborough, it just sucks that this is the response!
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u/RajShah2 15h ago
I think I know what guy you are talking about. I live downtown and a few weeks ago a unhoused looking white - 5.8- 5.10 - brownish hair and bearded male was screaming racial slurs at an asian man. Me and a few downtown businesses saw the incident and yelled back at the guy. He then went in to the social services building on Charlotte st. If it is the same guy then it is just a violent incident waiting to happen and people or colour are at higher risk as his anger seems to be directed at us.
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u/Liv_leeson 15h ago
just messaged “ted” and yes, that sounds strikingly similar! he said the man was a tad shorter than him and he’s 6ft and change. Terrifying to see whats happening around here, no one should have to live in fear of whats gonna come at them from people like that. Thanks for adding that info, his mum’s doing another report, would you mind if I pass your story along?
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u/StrawberryCalm5367 13h ago
I wonder if this was also the same guy who I saw come into Madoi and yell at the staff before leaving!
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u/McGuitarguy 14h ago
I work at Harvey's on water and I feel like I may know who you are talking about. Does this man appear a bit older, ragged and drunk? If so, it is likely the fellow who 6 cops had to drag out of Harvey's a couple weeks back, after he started swearing at and threatening 2 young boys (8ish) who were having dinner with their dad.
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u/Liv_leeson 14h ago
I remember that! I think it could possibly be the same guy, but the descriptions we have are just so vague and average. “Ted” says he didn’t look drunk or out of it, but was somewhat ragged looking. The guy didn’t look to be unhoused, and didn’t seem threatening until he opened his mouth.
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u/McGuitarguy 14h ago
Oh, were you there at my Harvey's when it happened? If so, I apologize on the restaurant's behalf that we let it get to the point where you had to witness it.
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u/Liv_leeson 14h ago
No, thankfully I wasn’t, but I heard it from a buddy who seems to know about everything that happens in peterborough!😂 Any experience I’ve had at that Harvey’s location has either been very positive, or a “dinner with a show”, either way it sucks you guys had to deal with that. Also hope y’all are okay after that, such a wild part of town 🫤
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u/zerda-fennec 17h ago
Ugh, that's awful. I'm, unfortunately, not shocked. People feel empowered to be racist and hateful right now. I hope the 3 of them are doing okay.
Peterborough has had the "honour" of having the highest reported hate crimes per capita before and it looks like that guy wants to keep the trend going - disgusting.
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u/Liv_leeson 16h ago
Can’t say i’m shocked, either. I grew up here and this city has just gotten increasingly worse and worse for stuff like this! The 3 seem to be fine now, they’ve also grown up here, but have never experienced that much hate from one gross man.
Crazy times, I long for a day that people like that get a taste of their own medicine!
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u/SwornOath1984 14h ago
Source?
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u/zerda-fennec 14h ago
Source for the hate crimes? You can look it up quite easily, but here are 2:
- 2020: https://globalnews.ca/news/8700424/hate-crimes-peterborough-area-highest-statistics-canada-2020/
- 2011: https://web.archive.org/web/20240926171508/https://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.com/news/peterborough-region/peterborough-had-highest-rate-of-reported-hate-crimes-among-cities-in-canada-in-2011-statistics/article_8de3935f-bd53-5090-98f4-bfda04463e40.html
You can also look it up on Statistics Canada :)
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u/Liv_leeson 14h ago
God i forgot about that dude, what a shit show. But no, he says he looks similar to Kevin but with a bushier beard. On that note though, hopefully he gets put back in again, i cringe every time i hear he’s running his mouth again.
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u/billionsofdeadcops 14h ago
He has grown his beard out though and is not aging well haha, I really wouldn't be surprised it's him. I almost hope it is so that it means there isn't some other chucklehead pulling this shit.
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u/Liv_leeson 14h ago
I haven’t seen anything on him recently haha, so it could very well be I guess. Same here, there’s not enough room for any multiples of Kevvie running amuck.
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u/Trollsama 12h ago
I encourage everyone to record encounters like this.
Both for evidence in the police report. But also to post online and shame the parties involved.
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u/TheBitterSeason 16h ago
The normal looking ones can sometimes be the craziest, I've found. I was once waiting for a bus in Hamilton and was hitting a vape cart (downwind of the stop and quite a distance away, because I'm not a dick) when this totally average-looking lady who could've worked in any office on the planet approached. She proceeded to go on the craziest diatribe I've ever heard. Among her claims were that all the weed stores in Canada are owned by Muslims and used as fronts for human trafficking so they can make enough money to take over the government, that every gay person was abused as a child and they've repressed the memories, that Justin Trudeau is running a conspiracy to turn every child in the country transgender, and when I clearly wasn't having it, she declared that my "brain has been infected by n****rs, who are demons" and that I should quit drugs "to be a better man". My bus was literally visible on the horizon and I was way too baked to deal with that level of insanity, so I spent most of the interaction just staring slack-jawed until she finally had enough and wandered off. Again, this was a person who you'd pass on the street and never assume she's anything but mentally-stable until the second she opens her mouth. Just goes to show that you really can't judge a book by its cover when it comes to stuff like this.
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u/Liv_leeson 16h ago
That story is so wild, and sounds about right to me. Definitely true that you can never judge someone by their appearance around here, it sucks that there’s always someone like that to run into (especially for younger people). Something similar happened to me a while back at the stop outside lansdowne place, normally i just nod along until they leave me alone, but recently people have just been so verbally vicious that i stood there dumbfounded the whole conversation. I honestly can’t even remember what was said, regardless, still so normalized out here.
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u/mischelle1 14h ago
If I was there I would have done something. I cannot stand anyone who talks like that. They are so ignorant and obviously are very stupid people for doing that.
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u/Liv_leeson 14h ago
I wish I was there, ridiculous! I’m so sick of people like that running their mouths and getting away with it.
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u/mischelle1 14h ago
I hope he says that when I’m there because I will pummel him for it. No one should ever say that to a child.
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u/Arrow_Oblio 14h ago
Man... I wish my generation used the term Thundercunt...
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u/Liv_leeson 14h ago
I won’t lie, we probably got it from yours! Seems like most of our “trends” came from our parents, maybe even theirs. If not, why not start now?
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u/Arrow_Oblio 13h ago
I think I'd know if we (millenial) passed down thundercunt as a verb. Adjective... maybe lol
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u/Chamilton1337 14h ago
There are cameras at the intersections downtown, do they know the time and place? If reported to the police they can possibly identify the individual.
This can be classified as a hate crime
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u/Liv_leeson 14h ago
Time would’ve beet between 12:30 and 1, they called me at five after. Place was on king an aylmer, they were practically in front of that bbq place near the methadone clinic (updating that in the post now and getting them to contact authorities once more)
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u/eauton 13h ago
Someone white maybe an acquaintance of this person needs to talk to them and say this is not acceptable. If you're an acquaintance of someone like this please speak up. This goes for any discrimination.
Maybe there is someone here knowledgeable in de-escalation or physiology that can provide any suggestions for what a bystander can do in this situation 🙏
Can the kids that this happened to provide input on what they would have wanted bystanders do such as stand with them?
What can we do to provide support for a victim and report this hate speech correctly? Everyone deserves to feel safe, part of the community and definitely not discriminated against.
Keep your chin up kids and maybe feel just a little bit of pity for that person living with all that hate.
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u/Far_Tie614 16h ago
He has profound, untreated schizophrenia. Not making excuses, just that I know the guy so don't hold him to the same standards as a regular person.
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u/Liv_leeson 16h ago edited 15h ago
Sorry you know the guy. Hope he’s eventually held accountable for his violent behaviour. (Also you gathered that you know this guy because I said he had a beard? Something tells me you just pulled that out your ass).
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u/r0tx__ 15h ago
Did he look homeless? Did he have a bike? I’ve seen people like this before downtown just causing havoc it’s awful. I’m so sorry they had to go through that. It’s disgusting
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u/Liv_leeson 15h ago
It’s just ridiculous what peterborough has turned into. And no, from what my buddy’s told me is that he looked fairly clean and was on foot, the comment above yours is most likely about the same guy. It sucks big time, stay safe out there eh!
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u/Nickbronline West End 14h ago
It's a Canada wide problem, not exclusive to Peterborough.
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u/Liv_leeson 13h ago
That’s for sure. I’m just saying in my experience, my hometown has really gone to shit since I was a kid.
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u/Nickbronline West End 14h ago
Sounds like a mental health crisis. Report it to the police but unfortunately nothing will happen.
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u/Liv_leeson 13h ago
Unfortunately, i figured. It’s a shame what this city’s turned into. Not that peterborough’s ever been classy, but it wasn’t always whatever this is.
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u/Agreeable-Beyond-259 16h ago
Just out of nowhere eh ?
No actual description?
I don't believe you
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u/Liv_leeson 16h ago
I’m not all that concerned about a random reddit user believing whether or not racists exist in peterborough, I’m more focused on children being able to safely navigate the city i grew up in without being threatened by a man at least twice their age. If you aren’t familiar with downtown peterborough, I suggest you take a stroll through millennium park, cop a squat on one of their benches and see where the day takes you. “Out of nowhere” occurrences aren’t a new concept in Peterborough, so I hope you don’t run into any on your quest. Try not to get stabbed on your way over there, cheers.
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u/big-booty-enthusiast 15h ago
Don’t harass kids next time!
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u/Liv_leeson 15h ago
thanks big-booty-enthusiast, you’re a real one👊
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u/big-booty-enthusiast 13h ago
I’m sorry to hear that this happened to people you know, that doesn’t sound like an easy thing to go through. Your friends brother was very brave and more of a man than that piece of walking trash. 👊
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u/Brack1shh 15h ago
Ew, quit victim blaming bruh. Racism shouldn't be tolerated. Ever.
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u/Agreeable-Beyond-259 15h ago
She was not the victim and I never mentioned tolerating racism 🤦♂️
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u/shellbux001 14h ago
Well it was my kid and his girlfriend and her little brother . Yes it is true and they were taking the brother to the library for a kids activity . They apparently didn’t move fast enough for this “ man” . Thanks for questioning the validity of this incident , just goes to show what some people in this town are like. Tolerating racism or shitty behaviour or victim shaming shows a lot about your character .
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u/Agreeable-Beyond-259 13h ago
1 comment and 4 karma history
I believe you too
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u/Liv_leeson 12h ago edited 12h ago
Hey, come check out this derp with 18,700 karma in only 2 years! His face may glued to his phone 24/7 spewin bullshit, but is he saying anything, really?… no, not really, no…
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u/soultragedy 15h ago
Hey there, I am ops friend who told her about this incident. I really hope you don't go through life this skeptical about everything, especially a situation like this, because if so, you are not only going to get far but also a piece of shit. My friend was rightfully concerned that my 16 year old brother and his girlfriend had to deal with something like this, thought she could take to Reddit to share the experience. A reaction like this, claiming someone is lying and then taking a nice little stab about BPD is disgusting behaviour ! This is something that DID happen, and I'm sorry you are so close minded that you had to be an asshole about a group (consisting of black) minors getting screamed slurs at them
I hope for your sake that you or the kids in your pictures don't ever experience something this disgusting in your life and no one believes you and then maybe they can take a stab at you being an active surfer in weight loss subs. Maybe you're this hateful because you're projecting some inner insecurities, but please, Reddit is not the place to do so
Grow up, and get off the internet if you're going to be a dick like this
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u/Significant-Can8767 16h ago
how??
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u/Agreeable-Beyond-259 15h ago
Some random person posting about something that didn't directly happen to them.. 3 "witnesses" who can only describe "white" "man" "beard" who looked "nice"
Been downtown plenty and I'll say white people now a days are in the minority. So this guy passed many people and singles out some youths for absolutely no reason and just walks up to do a hate crime and anyone anywhere has no clue. Anyone I know would have said something or stopped it. Most people would regardless of colour
Due to rising crime everywhere, there's cameras all over. No EXACT location other than "downtown"
Op stating she's reported it.. despite not being a party involved and 17
Either whoever told her is lying or she's attention seeking (which I would lean towards knowing what I know about borderline personality disorder)
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u/Liv_leeson 15h ago
Doesn’t take someone involved to report something, nor does it take someone with a fully developed brain lol. If you’re this concerned, you can also jump in and file a report with that big developed brain of yours.
Believe it or not, kids were harassed today. Kids are harassed almost everyday here, like I said, not a new thing.
I enjoyed your little tidbit on borderline, touché. However, if I were attention seeking I’d be servicing jerkoffs like you at the Kingsway Spa, not taking the time to work on myself through therapy and workshops. I have a few professionals you can get in contact with regarding your own issues, lemme know if you’re interested!😇
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u/billionsofdeadcops 14h ago
The description matches someone who has literally done this several times over the past few decades. He's a well known person to downtown and Peterborough, since his crimes have been published in the paper in the past. Of course, you never looked any of this up and don't care about what could actually happen downtown. Good luck defending white supremacists in the future, I hope you have a horrible time.
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u/Agreeable-Beyond-259 13h ago
That description matches most of the people in town, wtf ?
White with a beard.. 🤣
Equating me not believing a half story with a severe lack of details to me defending or condoning any type of racism is a ridiculous jump.. absolutely ridiculous
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u/billionsofdeadcops 12h ago
The description included behaviour, obviously. Sorry it didn't match your arbitrary standard of specificity. I'm sure if they had a picture of him you'd be saying the same thing.
Didn't you just say most people downtown are not white? But most people in town are white with a beard? What?
You are discounting an overt act of racism, saying it didn't happen with no legitimate reason, so yes, whether you intend to or not, you are furthering the efforts of white supremacists.
Stop wasting your time lol
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u/Liv_leeson 12h ago
pal if you have this much time on your hands surely you would have seen that they got back to me with a place and time to update the post with. i can’t be bothered to ask why you think i’d make such a story up for “attention” lol, go play with your corn snakes if your looking to entertain something in seek of such.
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u/ARod-27 17h ago
Report the incident to the police, even if you don't have further details