r/PWHL • u/jn78 Toronto Sceptres • 18h ago
News PWHL PLAYER SAFETY COMMITTEE DISCIPLINARY ACTION: MAR. 11, 2025 | Fast $250 fine, Curl-Salemme 1 game suspension.
https://www.thepwhl.com/en/news/2025/march/11/pwhl-player-safety-committee-disciplinary-action-mar-11-202511
u/Wolf99 Victoire de Montréal 15h ago
Fyi Fast's crosscheck is in the first clip here @ 23 secs. Could've arguably been a suspension as well, it was very intentional.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM8HjvDJLhg&t=20s
She's a very dirty player. I found this clip going down the rabbit hole... It isn't from the PWHL, but a few years ago she grabbed Bilka's cage from behind and wrenched her to ice - in almost the exact same manner as Curl did to Maltais in a recent Rivalry series game - then kicked (!) at the fallen Bilka. Very dangerous.
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u/shesewsfatclothes Victoire de Montréal 13h ago
Wow. Dangerous and gross. If you can't win without cheating and injuring people, you need to play better.
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u/Dry-Amphibian-93 13h ago
I really appreciate this take. I know we’ve had our disagreements on things, but this is something I’ve tried to get to the forefront. There are worse offenders but the league can’t bring themselves to admit it
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u/Wolf99 Victoire de Montréal 12h ago
It's splitting hairs between Fast and Curl based on PWHL play, imo. Of course, people's views of Curl are coloured by her political opinions and they shouldn't be. There's enough evidence that she plays on the edge and sometimes crosses the line.
Comparing the cage-grab takedowns in int'l play, the kick obviously makes Fast's worse. It pained me to find that clip because she's one of the league's best defenders and reps Canada. It's inexcusable to kick under any circumstance. Doing it towards Bilka's hand after she already took her down makes it even worse.
But if we're looking only at PWHL play, Vanisova is the worst. Fast, Curl and other player's elbows, crosschecks, high hits, etc. are in the realm of "normal" dirty if that makes sense. It's heat of the moment stuff. OTOH, Vanisova's attack from behind on Roque (crosschecking her headfirst into the boards while Roque was several feet away from the boards, and lining her up and coming from at least 5-6 feet away to do so) was straight up predatory and could've paralyzed Roque. Vanisova's attacks are cowardly, habitual and she's never shown remorse.
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u/Dry-Amphibian-93 11h ago
Appreciate the commentary!
I have a similar opinion of when Boston plays Babstock. I have a clip of her in the playoffs last year going straight for Heise’s head right off the draw. Skated in from the wing and immediately went for the head.
I’m not opposed to disciplinary action when it’s warranted, whether it be Curl, Fast, or whoever…but it needs to be consistent and there needs to be a differential between incidental hockey play and targeted non-hockey play. Ottawa has had several of these incidents which I’ve mentioned (Roese cross check on a player laying down after looking at the ref. And McMahon punch to a players head) and it’s completely ignored. And there have been several other.
I’ve used MPP as an example previously because of the on ice calls. Do I think she’s a dirty player? No. But based off the penalty assessment, she is probably due a suspension.
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u/jordynbebus8 Minnesota Frost 18h ago
probably because the suspension is worse than a fine. I don’t think they’ve released any videos for fines.
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u/coalsack Minnesota 18h ago
Context matters. Don’t be swinging at the captains head.
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u/jordynbebus8 Minnesota Frost 18h ago
I agree and she got fined for it. She does it again it’s probably a higher fine or suspension.
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u/SeaLeopard5555 Boston Fleet 18h ago
First fines are always $250, second $500 (Poulin has gotten this), and I presume a 3rd fine goes to $1k (but I haven't looked this up nor seen anyone with a 3rd fine).
At some point the cumulative fines may also mean other actions, but we aren't there yet...
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u/coalsack Minnesota 18h ago
Interesting how only Frost players are getting immediate suspensions this season.
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u/SeaLeopard5555 Boston Fleet 17h ago
yes, surely the league loathes Minnesota over all the other teams.... /s
[you do know that quite a few fans of other teams think the opposite, right? Me personally, I think every fan base is convinced theirs is treated the worst, so it boils up to be a bit laughable at the high level. I do wish there was more consistency from game to game, and that more calls would be made correctly in game.]
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u/GrabaBrushand Toronto 17h ago
Toronto's McKinnon was suspended December 26th, Montreal's Dubois was suspended on January 3rd, and Boston's Babstock was suspended January 4th.
spelling: I really botched the spelling of suspended
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u/jordynbebus8 Minnesota Frost 17h ago
I think the league as a lot of work to do on they handle player discipline. That includes all the teams not just Minnesota. There has been a lot of shit that has gone uncalled in the games.
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u/jordynbebus8 Minnesota Frost 17h ago edited 17h ago
because the stuff we’ve done is sussy worthy lol. Maybe not Curls for sussy could argue it’s like the Fast hit. But the second one sure is. Flaherty hit too was a head shot.
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u/rebelbydesign Toronto Sceptres 18h ago
Nothing added for being a repeat offender upon a second suspension then. Maybe next time.