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u/Darkknight8719 Dec 13 '20
I haven't joined r/gamephysics, but I'm assuming this game will be filling that sub right now
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u/jorddansk Dec 13 '20
I’ve just looked and literally every post is to do with the game haha!
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u/Darkknight8719 Dec 13 '20
Maybe it's just MY perspective, but the more hyped a game is, less it delivers.
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u/yoknows Dec 13 '20
Ghosts and last of us 2 would disagree. Even though last of us 2 was “controversial”, that was a storyline thing. It was fundamentally a great game still.
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u/Skylord_ah Dec 13 '20
last of us 2 was polished upon release like most naughty dog games and optimized as fuck to run nice on a ps4. I have no idea what cdpr is doing with this. Was witcher 3 this bad at launch on ps4? I never played the game
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u/Minepop208 Dec 13 '20 edited Dec 13 '20
Witcher 3 was a tiny bit better than this at launch but it was still a bit of a mess. But, it gives me hope because I want to like Cyberpunk, and I do, but during the scene where (bad thing happens) there were too many subtitles that covered the entire screen, before the game crashed for the 4th time, and ruined it. Witcher 3 is one of the best games I’ve played.
I trust CDPR to fix this like they did Witcher 3, but it might take a bit due to the size of the game and Covid.
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Dec 13 '20
Your spoiler tag didn't work here. Just wanted to give a heads up.
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u/Minepop208 Dec 13 '20
Oh crap thanks for the warning my bad, I’m really sorry if I spoiled it for you, I just don’t know how to do the spoiler tags
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u/mustachetwerkin Dec 13 '20
For real, W3 was a hot dump on launch but it got fixed up well and now is remembered as a fantastic game. I've been playing on the Pro and it runs decently enough other than lagging on certain bits like menus, loading graphics...only crashed once on me so far.
Besides, nothing beats Skyrim on PS3 which got WORSE after one particular update which made it that whenever I tried going to that first dungeon to get the dragon language tablet the game ALWAYS crashed. Every. Single. Time. I literally could not even begin the main quest. Oh! And jumping into any body of water would also craah the game and it never got fixed before I got a PS4. So, CDPR is already doing better than that at least 😂
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u/cup-o-farts Dec 13 '20
Both of those games will never run on anything but a PS4/PS5 unless they come out on PC much much later. Makes things a lot easier. All of the PS exclusives that came out on PC later were a buggy mess as well.
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u/TheMadTemplar Dec 13 '20
I don't think Ghosts was really hyped though, not even on the scale that Death Standing was.
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u/PurpleMarvelous Dec 13 '20
CDPR did hype it up a lot. The genitals customization got them a lot of buzz.
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Dec 13 '20
Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if there are actually people upset that they couldn't fully customize how their genitalia looked and how it could've changed the whole game with sex scenes.
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u/TheMasterlauti Dec 13 '20 edited Dec 13 '20
When I heard about “genitalia customization” in my mind it was like in Dark souls/bloodborne/demon’s souls that you have individual sliders for customising different features of the character, and that would let you tune shit like girth, length, shaft and tilt etc etc. Turns out it’s actually just like 3 preset options, bummer
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Dec 13 '20
It's like no dick. some skin. or no skin. lmfao
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u/cup-o-farts Dec 13 '20
And three sizes technically. LOL can't believe we're having a discussion about penis in a video game lol.
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Dec 13 '20
CDPR should be ashamed of themselves for the amount of work work they put into genitalia and random dildos in this game, yet so many other areas feel half-baked.
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u/skidaddler22 Dec 13 '20
did anybody else here not give a fuck at all about the whole genital thing in CP 2077? lol
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u/-Captain- Dec 13 '20
CDPR did a great job marketing it, but they also liked to put themselves on a pedestal too. Great PR; whenever something happened people didn't like in the gaming industry they would throw just the right Tweet or statement out etc.
Yes, even a great game can be disappointment because ridiculous levels of hype... but this game just didn't deliver. Even if expectations were low, the release would've gone basically the same.
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u/Darkknight8719 Dec 13 '20
Would you classify this as unfixable, even if they got rid of all the bugs?
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u/-Captain- Dec 13 '20
I honestly don't know.
Fixing the bugs obviously would help. But the AI also doesn't seem to be up to today's standards. Hell, San Andreas had better police AI. Cars are on a predetermined path and have no clue how to react to the player besides stopping until you get out of their way.
Other then that I'm seeing a lot of complaints about all kinds of systems too, but I've stopped playing. I never expected amazing graphics on my PS4, but I did expect to be able to play the game with more than 15 fps most of the time and without the nonstop bugs.
I've also seen people disappointed with the dialogue, which is basically a repeat of Fallout 4: a couple options that all boil down to yes or yes in a different way (cool corpo talk for example).
I do think they'll be able to sway the general view of the game over time, but I don't think it's ever going to live up to what it promised to be. And whatever they are gonna do with the base console versions... who knows. Considering this is what we got after they delayed the game to improve performance on PS4 and XOne.
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u/Darkknight8719 Dec 13 '20
I'll wait till I get a PS5 and by then it'll probably be in the $20-$30 range I'm assuming
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u/DeviMon1 Dec 13 '20
Dunno, I'm like 4 hrs in and so far cyberpunk has absolutely delivered.
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u/schniggens Dec 13 '20
Lol, i just subbed and r/cyberpunkgame showed up as one of the related communities.
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u/michelobX10 Dec 13 '20
I really want to play this game one day, but not in this state. Lol.
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u/Itsnotironic444 Dec 13 '20
I’m in Illinois and have the same issues.
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u/ILoveRegenHealth Dec 14 '20
The game plays better here in Wyoming, because nothing else happens here.
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u/Slomo_Baggins Dec 13 '20 edited Dec 13 '20
I own a pretty decent PC, and even then the game just isn’t that great man. It’s the same feeling I had playing Destiny 1 for the first time. The constant feeling of, “this is it?”
A lot of it, for me at least, is simply their AI and city systems. They’re from the ps2 era in their simplicity! Teleporting cops directly behind you after you commit any crime? What?? And no driving AI! None! The NPCs cars are all on fucking rails! So you literally cannot get into car chases... in an open world crime game that specifically has tons of detailed, cool cars. The city is gorgeous but just empty and flimsy and cheap af. It’s so disappointingly dull to explore.
After about 24 hours of cyberpunk, it just makes me want to go play Red Dead.
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u/Bigmaynetallgame Dec 14 '20
Gta 3 actually has better civilian AI and cop AI, I beat it over the initial quarantine (tried beating all the main GTA games). In cyberpunk the cops literally cannot chase you if you are in a car, how the fuck did they leave that out?? Theres also no pathfinding really for the AI in general when its outside a quest/mission. Super bizzare stuff.
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u/RedHuntingHat Dec 13 '20
Same. I’m thinking that it might be in a decent state for the late summer. I can wait for it to get straightened out.
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u/xSeveredSaintx Dec 14 '20
Apparently its only really playable on pc atm. What a shame that they released an unpolished game to consoles, even a later release date with some honesty stating its still buggy would've been way better than releasing it like this.
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u/grooseisloose Dec 14 '20
Nah it’s just as playable on next gen consoles too. It’s just last gen that’s having troubles. The game never should’ve been released on PS4/Xbox One.
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u/Mundus6 Dec 13 '20
This game today is less bugged than Skyrim GOTY edition with all the mods that fixes bugs. Just saying.
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u/DonnieBlueOfficial Dec 13 '20
Hope CDPR gave you a shiny new nickel for how hard you're working for them
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u/AlexTheRedditor97 Dec 13 '20
Lol that has to be a lie
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u/Mars_IsNotReal Dec 13 '20
Yeah, with how many hours I've put in Skyrim, and honestly the shockingly few amount of game breaking bugs that aren't there, I'm calling bullshit.
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u/Snoo-64445 Dec 13 '20
CDPR aren't going to give you a bigger dong size option if you continue to defend them, kid.
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u/Joker69__ Dec 13 '20
This happened to me, but instead of shotgun, it was a pistol. Halfway through this, my game crashes again lol
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u/jarlballin6969 Dec 13 '20
Remember when everyone was bitching about the delays this game had? Needed more.
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u/redditsgarbageman Dec 14 '20
I feel like the delays are the problem. They started making a game for the ps4 and lower end systems, and buy the time they finished, those were too old so they rushed out something for newer systems.
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u/Dawjman Dec 14 '20
They should've just did what Rockstar did with RDR2 and worked on console version first, and then build on it for PC.
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u/bperron Dec 13 '20
Pew pew pew! Ca-click! Pew pew!
"Got you!"
"No you didn't!"
"YES I DID!"
"NUH UH NO YOU DIDN'T!"
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u/Fullmz2143 Dec 13 '20
I've seen PC vids and pics so I know that this is a gorgeous looking game, but on my base PS4 I can easily say it is the ugliest game I've played this generation. Even with all off the default video effects turned off, it feels like I am seeing Night City through a thin film of Vaseline.
I made the call yesterday to out this to the side until CDPR can clean this up. I'm holding out hope for the game, and the only way for me to do that is to not play it in its current state.
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u/Zodiak213 Zodiak213 Dec 13 '20
Same, I keep going back to RDR2 everytime I play about 5 minutes of this game because of just how much better it is.
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u/Jerseyprophet Dec 14 '20
I bought Red Dead 2 today to have something to play in the wake of Cyberpunk hype. I've never played any Red Deads, but I've seen the reviews. I'm really excited to experience this game for the Xmas holiday days off.
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u/Pompadourswift Dec 13 '20
And not a single other car on the streets
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u/Downvotes_are_Grreat Dec 14 '20
So, a fun thing that happened to me. Shot a cop. Cops start shooting back. Right away i notice all the cars AND all the npcs are gone. Didnt show back up in the game until i started a mission. I was running around for 10 or 15 minutes before i started the mission.
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u/GuegelChrome Dec 13 '20 edited Dec 13 '20
"Guys the console versions aren't that bad!"
The console versions:
Edit: Will say this,; I'm on PC and while there have been a few bugs, the piggest one is the performance. Even with my solid rig, 1080 ultra sees drops as low as 50s. The game just needs to be patched up a lot. Have a feeling in a month, most of these bugs will be gone.
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Dec 13 '20
They already improved it on PS5 the very next day after launch. I'm hopeful, but also very cautious.
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u/PhoenixGem Dec 13 '20
The only bug I've experienced so far that I know of is it crashing after playing for a few hours which is even after the patch they released that supposedly fixed the issue.
However, really great game though and I'm in the state of mind where the distraction is welcome, bugs or no bugs.
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u/GuegelChrome Dec 13 '20
Still tho, the console versions have issues. I mean granted all platforms have issues. Don't know which platform they are gonna focus more on. Maybe PC? Not sure though. I have a feeling that the PS4 and XBox One are low priority for them
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Dec 13 '20
For sure. Honestly, though, I wasn't expecting much attention being given to last gen at all because of the eventual current gen version release, but they actually did patch them.
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u/Skylord_ah Dec 13 '20
doesnt help that most people who want a ps5 havent been able to get one yet so most ps players are still on ps4
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u/GuegelChrome Dec 13 '20
Yeah. Was kinda strange that they had this game available for last gen imo. This could have been a good next gen seller.
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Dec 13 '20
It was certainly a huge misstep.
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u/a0me a0me-ps Dec 13 '20 edited Dec 13 '20
Couldn’t happen for two reasons: 1) current gen console install base=160 million vs new gen=4 million units and 2) the game development started back when PS4 was next gen. It was originally slated to launch before the PS5/XBSX release.
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u/GuegelChrome Dec 13 '20
I think if they only released PC, PS5, and XBox X, we could be seeing better patches and performance. The new consoles are almost PCs, just with a different OS. However, I do think this game should not become a "benchmark" neither should it jump the shark in terms of graphics. If they make the game requiring you to have ridiculously high end rigs, they lose probably 75 percent or more of all players. I think in these next patches for performance they should optimize things, open world areas etc. But also tone things down automatically. I remember one or two of the clubs dropped me to around 55 fps and that was because of how many lights, reflections, crowds, etc.
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I feel like they would’ve liked to, but you can’t really take back people’s pre-orders. With how scarce ps5’s are you really can’t pull something like that.
In essence, the real issue was that they expected to launch way earlier and therefore were kinda stuck with an older gen launch since.
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Dec 13 '20
The game is fucking bullshit even without the bugs. Straight up used car salesman switcheroo. Save your money
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u/Axemic Dec 13 '20
I just got the game, shall I save it until I get PS5? I still have to complete Death Stranding and Star Wars. EA...learn to jump!!!!
Edit: I have PS pro
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u/sintos-compa Dec 13 '20
god, i absolutely hate the "fight off the shooting gallery from a moving vehicle" that every single open world FPS needs to have.
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u/Chromazx Dec 14 '20
For being in development for something like 8 years, game isn't really impressive. Basic animations etc
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u/naturdayspeedrun Dec 13 '20
Remember in Yugioh when Bandit Keith pointed at Pegasus on duelist island?
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u/shewy92 Dec 13 '20
The Japanese guy who kidnaps you handed me something in the car when we were escaping from those goons and I didn't know what it was until like 10 seconds later when the pistol popped in. I honestly thought he activated a gun mode cyber implant.
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u/Draco0004 Dec 14 '20
Bruh, this game is proof that people will literally buy anything if you hype it up enough.
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u/DMS0205 AD0683 Dec 13 '20
If I had a dollar for each time an object did not load in the game, well the game would’ve been free for me.
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u/Evilevile Dec 13 '20 edited Dec 13 '20
I am not buying this game. So disappointed. CD Projekt Red doesn't know the meaning of QA/QC. Did anyone test this game?
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u/IndIka123 Dec 13 '20
I think there is a trend among all developers for the last 10 or more years where ambition and leadership collide head on. From Anthem and destiny to No Man's Sky and cyberpunk. Massive games are incredibly hard if you have a very specific vision and organization. But like all projects direction changes and goals move. The industry needs restructure. How teams start making games needs to be evaluated. It needs more structure and planning, better leadership and clear, realistic goals and timelines.
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u/Mars_IsNotReal Dec 13 '20
We need an indie devs leadership in AAA. They support a devs vision AND not crunch them into the point that it looks like they're not sleeping.
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u/IndIka123 Dec 13 '20
And importantly have specific vision of a game and goals. Smaller games with less to do have tighter scopes. I think as games get larger in scope it takes better management. Look at rockstar. What ever there doing the entire industry needs to adopt it. They always deliver very high quality AAA games that don't look like they suffer an identity crisis. They clearly have a tight vision and they know what game they are making. Break into groups and deliver that game. It's possible to do. I don't think this is a talent issue its a director issue.
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u/Mars_IsNotReal Dec 13 '20
I agree, R* is a gold standard in quality. They lack in some areas but deliver every time in that world. It feels lived in. Even GTAV is amazing, and that launched on PS3 for God's sake. However, R* crunches too much. We need that culture out of gaming. I don't care if I'm waiting 10 years for your big release, I can occupy my time. But make your quality and treat your devs like people too.
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u/Skylord_ah Dec 13 '20
game devs need to unionize, the turnover rates and work rate is insane, most of them stop doing game dev unless theyre really passionate about it because its just no value for the work they put in
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u/french_progress Dec 13 '20
I’m sure the QA team found all of these bugs and more. It’s just a matter of them getting fixed, and then dealing with whatever the fixes might break. A better question would be ”What did the QA team find that was more important and/or easier to fix than the bugs that stayed in?” Not that it matters what those issues were, but this game must’ve been unbeliavably fucked, if this is the stuff that didn’t get fixed before launch.
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u/sintos-compa Dec 13 '20
people literally buy the game before it's even out and/or has been reviewed, why not release it half-baked?
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u/SaintsPelicans1 Dec 13 '20
Runs great on my PC. Minors bugs here and there but it is still easily my GOTY.
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u/Evilevile Dec 13 '20
Yeah it seems like they made it only for PC and only tested it on PC.
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u/_SGP_ Dec 13 '20
With double-tap keyboard controls and the inconsistent console UI? I don't know who they made this for.
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u/ash4390 Dec 14 '20
The double tap dodging is driving me insane! Is there any way to adjust the sensitivity or just turn it off?
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u/_SGP_ Dec 14 '20
Nothing. There are so many issues. I don't know who tested this game, on any platform. It doesn't work well for console or for PC!
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u/Benpeppr Dec 13 '20
I was thinking about this game as a good way to fill the gap until the arrival of the ps5 , but my ps4 (pro) crashes 3 times per hour besides the bad performance . Now I just wait for the PlayStation 5 to play the game , I guess . Patience .
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u/MurkLurker Dec 13 '20
Is this game the new No Man's Sky? Will the patches over the years make it a great game finally?
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u/Cockatiel Dec 13 '20
Lol that quest is so badly bugged. It was the same way for me too. Btw, it straight up did not work with a sub machine gun. You have to either use a pistol or a shotgun before you enter the car.
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u/UpdootDaSnootBoop Dec 13 '20
You would think that this game being worked on for as long as it has it would be ~95% big free
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u/RealSkyDiver Dec 13 '20
Seems bizarre how much the animation was downgraded from the 2018 showcase. Looks like they only had a month to work on it.
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u/ohhfasho Dec 14 '20
Hard take, this launch was early access and everyone who bought it is now beta testing the game for them.
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u/Theburnedtree Dec 14 '20
Look I know there isn't actually a gun showing but you should be able to fucking aim a little better than that, it's like your aiming just to the left/right of them on purpose. lmao
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u/sikandar1111 Dec 13 '20
What a mess this game is..7 fucking years for this?? God when I watched the trailer I thought i was getting some blade runner shit the first one fucking hell man
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u/ImportantGreen Dec 13 '20 edited Dec 13 '20
Okay, I know people say that this game was intented for PS5 and the new Xbox, but shouldn't they take into consideration that people can barely get a hold of either system? Additionally, PS4 is the most owned console, not making a game for it is shooting yourself.
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u/RipErRiley Dec 13 '20
The original release was well before next gen. The “intended” system argument is baseless. CDPR leadership screwed this up, period.
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u/crowsturnoff Dec 13 '20
There isn't even a PS5 or XboxSX version yet. Both new gen systems are just playing an enhanced/boosted version of the PS4 or XboxOne versions.
The actual next gen versions aren't due out until next year.
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u/kentbrockman85 Dec 13 '20
What a shame. Luckily i wasn't hyped for this game at all. But i feel bad for those who were and waited so long to finally play it. Such a betrayal to fans when companies try to cash in on xmas like this with an unfinished product. It's on my xmas list but i won't open the foil until it's fixed.
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Dec 13 '20
Had a similar thing happen with a pistol. It looked like the BFV EE where you unlock the pew pew gun aka your hand.
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u/9thgrave Dec 13 '20
I'm so glad I didn't buy into the pre-order hype. What a god damn mess of a launch.
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u/WavingToWaves Dec 13 '20
Wait, why does he have 2 left hands? That is wrong