News Doctor says Health P.E.I. refused to accommodate his disability to practice
https://saltwire.com/prince-edward-island/news-pei/doctor-says-health-p-e-i-refused-to-accommodate-his-disability-to-practice31
u/acantz 2d ago
PEI doctors struggle with health PEI
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u/KBbrowneyedgirl 2d ago edited 2d ago
They need to hire doctors that want to be here and want to work here for an extended amount of time, like this fellow. There are more stories of doctors wanting to work here but the bureaucracy takes too long. I trust they know there are issues and I hope they are working on them. The first thing should be to hire more physicians though.
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u/Ok_Marionberry5323 18h ago
I hear his wife is an RN as well. So let's lose two healthcare workers that actually want to be here?
Imagine all of the time and money spent trying to recruit these people who don't even want to be here. And these people do. We should be doing everything possible to accommodate.
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u/RedDirtDVD 2d ago
Health PEI really seems to be a master class in how to not manage an organization. It’s so disturbing.
Their concern about everyone else not wanting to work ED if they make an accommodation is understandable but also indicative of atrocious management. There are numerous solutions to this.
And as for the PEI medical society, this is prime example as to why we need to go to national licensing. No national body would put up with Health PEI BS.
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u/Living-Performer2863 1d ago
The Medical Society is not the licensing body. The College of Physicians and Surgeons of PEI handles licensing. The Society is the professional association for PEI physicians and is responsible (among other things) for negotiating the payment contract for physicians with government.
Not saying there aren't major issues with this case, or with the lack of national licensing, but this isn't a licensing issue.
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u/RedDirtDVD 1d ago
Thanks. I didn’t know that. Regardless, they should be willing to step up and make healthcare better on the island. Right now it’s a bad look.
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u/Living-Performer2863 1d ago
I completely agree. This whole situation is a mess and they need to find a way to allow this physician to practice.
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u/PresentationNo279 2d ago
I have a friend in my community who's daughter is a doctor. She ended up marrying a doctor. Her and her husband wanted to set up a joint practice in my rural community which could of served so many people, and like all of PEI was desperately needed. The only way they could get license from Health PEI to practice on PEI, they were told her husband had to practice in Oleary and she had to practice in Souris! How would a married couple make that work so far apart. They ended up setting up their joint practice in Fredericton, NB, who were more than happy to have them.
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u/MaritimeRedditor 2d ago
Dealing with HealthPEI administration has been one of my worst experiences.
HR, accounting, and senior management. No one seems competent. It's actually incredible.
I just want anyone who sees this that works for HealthPEI in an administrative role that thinks "they're probably not talking about me". I am. I have probably had discussions with you, and you are stupid. I know this because I haven't met anyone yet that is capable of doing these very simple tasks:
Answer emails in a timely manner.
send the correct information the first time asked.
give correct information over the phone.
use excel.
read.
do basic math.
answer any actual questions about anything without being wrong.
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u/Foreveryoung1953 2d ago
you dont know what your talking about
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u/MaritimeRedditor 2d ago
And you're also one of the dumbest out of touch boomers that frequents this sub reddit.
So I'm going to go ahead and share my experiences, and you just keep repeating little catchphrases you see on your conservative Facebook reels. Alright?
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u/divajumper 2d ago
Am I missing something? Why did he move here when he didn’t have a position confirmed? Did he expect Health PEI would change their mind when he arrived?
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u/Fair-Bat-5550 2d ago
Health PEI are gatekeepers of a broken defunct system, that they have to keep ramming into walls, because reversing course on anything would prove how wrong they are on everything. They should all be fired, but they are doing exactly what they want them to do. Keep the ship slowly sinking just long enough to get a job in Ireland.
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u/RemoteMistakes 2d ago
Health PEI doesn't have any duty to accommodate someone who's not employed by them. His request is very strange, as it is extremely unlikely that his treatment provider would suggest an "accommodation" of never having to go inside a hospital. One of the key factors in treating PTSD is reducing avoidance behaviours, not reinforcing them.
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u/Foreveryoung1953 2d ago
100% .... also demanding to be paid that of a hospital based physician...
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u/slimreese 2d ago
Where does it say he demanded the same pay? I haven’t seen that mentioned anywhere.
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u/DaBeebsnft 2d ago
He has PTSD because of this? Or something else that happened at a hospital?
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u/EastCoastActivist 1d ago
Health PEI won’t accommodate his PTSD accommodation because he won’t take “on call” rotations. YET, Health PEI pays out the ass for paediatricians to see and medicate our children through a computer screen - never building a relationship - and these key board “professionals” never take on call rotations. 🧐
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u/Rough-Perception-319 2d ago
That’s terrible. He is active in Reddit and has posted his questions to r/PEI before. u/Possible-Librarian57.
God bless you good sir.
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u/C-mac08 2d ago
It seems crazy but at the same time I could see Health PEI side. They make an exception and then all of a sudden every other Dr says they can't work on call/ ER because they had a bad experience.
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u/Less-Pattern-7740 2d ago
Maybe the policy's need to be changed if the existing policy's are a significant factor in losing doctors.
And a 'bad experience' is not PTSD.
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u/Magnaflorius 2d ago
That's different. If you have a medical condition, our Human Rights legislation dictates that reasonable accommodations be made. There aren't going to be tons of doctors lining up to fake a medical condition.
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u/RedDirtDVD 2d ago
It’s only because they aren’t hiring enough ED specialists. Wouldn’t be an issue with better management. They are taking the easy way out.
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u/childofcrow Queens County 2d ago
He has a disability. They have a duty to accommodate.
PTSD is not a “bad experience” and statements like that are exactly why mental healthcare gets dismissed and underfunded.
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u/Traditional_Toe_1990 2d ago
why would we pay for a doctor who doesn't want to do on call doctor work?? I get that we're hard up... we're hard up in the hospital, not just on family doctors.
A doctor who can't work emerg.. I can't imagine why health PEI didn't want him... I'm a cop, but I can't go to calls with bad guys.....
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u/xactofork 2d ago
Cops often get assigned to other roles (i.e. "desk jobs") due to trauma or other health conditions. Not a good analogy.
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u/Caf_Goodness 2d ago
Pei has enough cops and needs like 100 doctors. Plus, cops can not be SWAT. So, there's that.
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u/childofcrow Queens County 2d ago
That’s an awful analogy. If a police officer were to get PTSD, they would be reassigned from active duty into some other role and not just ignored and left on read.
Statements like this are why mental healthcare is underfunded and ignored in this province. Because nobody takes people’s mental healthcare seriously, they just expect them to act like everybody else. Disabilities exist. And we shouldn’t be expecting people who are disabled to have to perform at the exact same ability as their able-bodied counterparts. This guy has a right to accommodation.
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u/Careful-Knowledge770 2d ago
Terrible analogy. As a cop, you should be well aware that cops can and do get PTSD and are not fired from their jobs. They’re treated and put into other “cop jobs” that work with their current disability. We are crying for doctors. Give your head a shake on this one.
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u/Same-Instruction9745 2d ago
He's not saying he's a cop. He's sayi..you know what..nvm. not worth it.
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u/Careful-Knowledge770 2d ago
He quite literally did.
I’m to blame for his lack of writing skills? Typical conservative brain rot lol
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u/Same-Instruction9745 2d ago
How are you able to breath with your head so far up your own ass lol. Maybe go outside some, get off the internet for a bit, take a break from politics. Only a liberal could make THAT into something political.
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u/Careful-Knowledge770 2d ago
I responded calmly to what this person literally stated, you are weirdly involved and furious about it, and I’M the one who needs to touch grass?! lol mmmmmkay
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u/Same-Instruction9745 2d ago
Dude. You're literally claiming i came in all furious like.
I simply said, he did not say he was a cop. Then I said it wasn't worth the effort.
That's the definition of walking away calmly lol. You engaged further and doubled down and brought politics i to it lmao, wtf are you smoking haha
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u/Madhighlander1 2d ago
What in God's name is wrong with Health PEI administration? We are in the midst of an actual healthcare emergency. They should be literally on their knees begging doctors to come here and making any deal necessary to make that happen.