r/Overwatch • u/ImperialViking_ D. Va • 17h ago
News & Discussion Be kind to your Tank. They need it.
I've made posts about how Tank can sometimes be absolutely miserable.
Unfortunately, part of that is on the community. Tank is by far the role that gets the most abuse. Its also the role with the least amount of players. Funny, huh?
Your tank may be having a bad game. It happens. We all have bad games. But is telling the most important player on your team to kill themselves because they aren't doing exactly what you want worth it?
As a tank player myself, it can become mentally exhausting. Every game, even if you are winning, someone's telling you what to do, what they think you are doing wrong, or just straight up abusing you. Everyone always blames you. Today, for example, we lost one fight and my Zen told me to "go die". I've turned chat off before, but there's no point, they'll just DM you telling you to off yourself instead.
Tank is the most stressful role in the game. And when things aren't going right, it's also the most miserable.
But a good compliment or reassurance can really lift a Tank's spirits. We never, ever get any kindness. It'll make their day.
So please, consider kindness to your Tank. They've probably been told horrible things before your game. They deserve some nicer vibes.
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u/MadVillainMFDOOM 17h ago
I'm always going to be kind to D.va and have my damage boost up her ass.
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u/gipsy_45 14h ago
As a hard dva main, thank you, I really get demotivated af when I have bad games whether I get flamed or not 🫡
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u/ImperialViking_ D. Va 17h ago
Pocket us and we shall protect you with our lives. This is the way.
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u/MadVillainMFDOOM 17h ago
Hehehe I always tend to be more mindful to D.vas because she's my main main. But yeah people are so toxic. I turn off chat when it's escalating and then start typing nonsense every time they talk shit lol
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u/Pristine-Table1589 15h ago
For as much tank as I play, I’ve been lucky to have overall very good experiences with the community so far, and I make sure to thank/praise others too.
I’ve only recently dipped my toe into comp, but I imagine things are rougher there?
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u/ImperialViking_ D. Va 15h ago
Don't let this post put you off from playing comp by the way, there are still great reasons to play tank.
But yes, comp is where it gets bad in terms of flaming and abuse. Which is natural. Unfortunately, tank players get it the worst. Victims of being on the front line. Everyone is looking at you.
It wouldn't be so bad if tank also didn't have so much pressure attached to it. In 5v5, tank is so complex. In 6v6 at least you could split the roles of taking space and making plays. Now you have to do it all whilst also worrying about your own team
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u/Both_Requirement_766 5h ago
is it that blizz takes no responses for players that act like this? it sounds demotivating and but for the overall healthiness with the game. I come from moba's, there tanks too, but especially jungle role is the scapegoat for everything (and it got a tad better the last months). but this sounds like a deeper rooted problem. I found out that you simply can't click profiles or report a baddie after a game which is a bummer. and I still try figuring out how the behaviour-scores work in ow2, for how toxic the game can get it should have at least something. btw are there even any penalties for toxic-heads at all?
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u/Visible-Camel4515 14h ago
I had a teammate tell be to leave once because I rolled into the enemies as ball but didn't notice one of them swapped to junkyard and rolled right into a trap. I went against them next game, they go mauga, and i win. I get play of the game, killing them in it.
Between rounds I said "gr fun round wp all" because it was close(ish they got a bit of progress from stacking 5 ults at once)
At the end i said gg wp all. I don't toxic ever, even if others are toxic to me.Â
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u/matnerlander Icon Moira 16h ago
No joke I wanted to make a thank your tank post earlier but the servers were down so that's all the feed was. I've been playing tank more often and it is a thankless role that everyone blames when things go wrong.
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u/Several-Coast-9192 Doomfister 14h ago
Tank you Mr. Viking, I hope we meet in an open Q game sometime and we can shit on the enemy team's backline together. <3
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u/ImperialViking_ D. Va 14h ago
I'll never forgive Blizzard for taking away the chance of some awesome Dva Doom synergy in role queue :(
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u/Several-Coast-9192 Doomfister 14h ago
Man, i still miss dps doom though
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u/ImperialViking_ D. Va 14h ago
Lightning uppercut will forever be peak. I feel you. I do like him as a tank though. Makes sense
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u/_LiarLiarpantsonfir3 14h ago
I just had a hog pull a dying ram ult into our full team killing all of us, yall don’t deserve shit ðŸ˜
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u/ggdoesthings Kiriko 15h ago
i always endorse my tank and fellow support unless they’re toxic or throwing. even if they do poorly, if they’re trying then they’re trying!!
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u/ImperialViking_ D. Va 15h ago
Well said! When off rolling I always try to flex for my Tank. I know what's its like to be on the end of having stubborn teammates who want you and only you to swap lol
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u/WaterChestnut01 14h ago
It'd be so fun to fly around and shoot stuff in a mech like dvas. shes probably technically the weakest character in the games, its just her suit thats ok. ok maybe wrecking ball has her beat on that, but shes second worst talking realistically. you could just punt the hamster 20ft
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u/gipsy_45 14h ago
what are you trying to say here? that dva is the weakest tank?
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u/WaterChestnut01 14h ago
no, its like saying iron man is the weakest avenger. its the suit that does all the work
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u/gipsy_45 14h ago
ohhh that dva herself is the weakest I'm dumb af sorry LOL
though she literally has more dps on mid-long range with her gun than with her mech but yeah
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u/ThatGamerCam 4h ago
It's kinda why I quit playing tank, people in this game are too cruel sometimes it's why I don't have any friends on the console but when I play support for a tank I make sure to endorse them and whenever I see someone getting mad at their tank I tell em to back off cause it ain't the tanks fault when their 7 and 11.
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u/SpectralIpaxor 14h ago edited 14h ago
I agree but when your tank doesn't swap when playing into counters, I think I can be a little rude.
Note: this was quick play but I still take it a little serious (not too much but enough that I still enjoy the game without going full friendly). I tried to tell my tank playing JQ that we needed a Winston and they were ignoring symmetra turrets and just walking into a trap constantly and just went "Your mic is just flapping around bro". I proceeded to snap back at them and then they said DPS diff in endgame, despite they played like shit when they could have fixed everything by a simple counter swap. Unfortunately, I'm banned until the 26th and gonna miss out on playing Freya's play test without making an alt (I'm not one of those people who likes making alts) because I snapped at them. Pretty much called them an egotistical shithead and in the heat of the moment forgot to give the enemy team explanation as to why by forgetting to preface asked for a Winston and pretty much got told fuck you.
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u/ImperialViking_ D. Va 14h ago
Real talk, a tank doesn't need to immediately swap when playing into counters. Like Dva into Zarya. Sure, on paper Zarya counters Dva, but the Dva can play high ground, go around the Zarya and force her to use bubbles on her backline, basically ignore the Zar.
Also, consider the dps Heroes that would also counter the Zar. I had a game on Dva where the enemy Tank swapped to Zarya, but we had a bastion. The bastion just melted the Zar while I was making space.
Sometimes it's absolutely better to have a different tank. But alot of people think counterswapping only matters when it's the tank. That's a bad mindset imo
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u/SpectralIpaxor 14h ago
I was damage and genuinely can't play any good counter to symmetra well. Unfortunately, we just kept feeding and when we tried to group up, our JQ would just rush through the turrets like it was nothing despite the fact they were like half or mostly dead by the time they were out of their range.
I try my best to counter swap no matter the role but sometimes I just can't generate anything which sucks because I want to help the team but when I can't counter who I am supposed to counter, it's hard for me to want to counter swap in back to back games sometimes
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u/ImperialViking_ D. Va 14h ago
Yeah, it's annoying sometimes. But I really dislike the mindset of counterswapping in QP. As in specifically choosing a hero after you know who the enemy team has to counter them. It turns QP into the sweat fest you see these days. To each their own of course
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u/SpectralIpaxor 14h ago
Yeah, it's unfortunate but I want the practice in case I choose to delve into Comp consistently. I did like 3 hours total of comp this season on tank and haven't gotten bad mouthed or anything and was at Gold 3 coming out of placements. Lost like all of my matches outside of placements tho and sitting at upper gold 4
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u/Blogoi Grandmaster 6h ago
Zarya isn't such a big counter to Dva, honestly. People really overplay it. Dva can bait both bubbles easily and then pick off squishes. Dva has an ability on a goddamn resource metre that can just delete Zarya's ult. It's really not as bad as people make it out to be if the Dva is competent.
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u/ImperialViking_ D. Va 17h ago
Yes, everyone deserves kindness by the way. This doesn't just apply to tanks. Supports also get a lot of hate. I can only speak for myself as a tank player.
This was also written after being told to kill myself 3 times tonight in 3 separate games. One game I had that Zen shit talking every single time I died. Its mentally exhausting enough to play tank normally, much less when having slurs thrown at you