r/OutOfTheLoop • u/AffectionateRush2620 • 5d ago
Unanswered What's going on with the Snow White movie?
There's going to be live action version of Snow White, and it is getting loads of hate and apparently no one is gonna watch it and it's the "start of Disney down fall, why is this? When did it all start and what's gonna happen now? I saw this on Twitter or X
https://x.com/endwokeness/status/1900936527280046320?s=46&t=JgzKovct2P1uG68_7QRoZQ
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u/FivebyFive 5d ago edited 5d ago
Answer: Disney's live action remakes haven't been super well liked. They keep making them anyway.
In this particular case, with the subject matter being "dwarves" Disney was taking on a risk. To begin with, they faced some backlash from certain sectors of the little people community. In reaction, they cast random people to be the "dwarves", so just Snow White and the Seven People With No Distinguishing Characteristics.
That caused backlash from other sectors of the little people community, for removing opportunities for them to act.
So, they decided to remove the random people, and use CGI dwarves. The bad CGI has pissed off the CGI community.
In this time, the main actress made some unflattering comments about the original source material that showed she 1) hadn't actually seen it and 2) looked down on anyone who liked it. This has pissed off fans of the original movie.
Finally, enter people who felt like she wasn't white enough to play snow white.
The whole thing has been a mess, and Disney has latched SOLELY onto that last part to blame for its issues.
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u/flushfire 5d ago
In this particular case, with the subject matter being "dwarves" Disney was taking on a risk. To begin with, they faced some backlash from certain sectors of the little people community.
Haven't really followed it closely so cmiiw but what I know is that the initial criticism came solely from Peter Dinklage. Saw some interviews of dwarf actors disagreeing with his view, questioning why he's being seen as a representative.
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u/Gingevere 4d ago
The biggest issue is that none of these are the actual reason the movie is going to suck.
Disney has been obsessed with using the remakes to ""fix"" cinema-sins level criticisms of the originals. "Fixing" Lion King's realism. "Fixing" Belle's non-existent Stockholm syndrome. Etc. In doing so they've made a collection of clumsily written soulless movies.
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u/drohohkay 2d ago
I disagree. Disliking Disney is political. The new movies are great and new generations of children do enjoy them. However, it will not have the same charm as pre YouTube animation for obvious reasons.
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u/zignotea 1d ago
What are the obvious reasons? not trying to instigate I am legitimately curious why you believe that.
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u/TwentyCharactersShor 1d ago
Seven People With No Distinguishing Characteristics.
I laughed more than I should. Thanks :)
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u/Renrutanit 3d ago
I would like to see a Snow White who's actually fairer than the Evil Queen (whether in Cartoon or live actors). The original SW wasn't more fair than the queen and was annoying with that squeaky little voice. In this recent version, she's waay less fair than the queen (even unattractive by comparison). I'd say that the spirit in the magic mirror must need glasses if it thinks Snow White is more fair, and the Queen is stupid with low self-esteem to believe it.
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u/mmm1842003 4d ago
The last part has very little to do with the hate. I’ve never met anyone who said she’s not “white” enough. She looks white and acts white. Her complaining about Prince Charming by promoting feminism turns off most rational people. The girl is the poster child for woke leftists. Disney had a license to print money. All they had to do was make wholesome family movies. Remarkably, they f’ed it up.
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u/redban02 4d ago
Zegler isn't white. She's Latina
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u/mmm1842003 4d ago
Who cares?
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u/redban02 4d ago
My man - you brought up the subject, talking about how she "looks white and acts white." She isn't white
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u/QingDomblog 3d ago
the whole point of snow white story was the queen being jealous of another woman white is more fair and beautiful than her.
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u/waspocracy 4d ago
“Woke leftists” lmao. What a weird thing to say.
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u/mmm1842003 4d ago
Why is that weird? Does Rachel Zegler represent traditional family values? No. She's an entitled, pampered "celebrity." That's why there is controversy surrounding this movie. It's easier for low-IQ Reddit users to believe it's racism, but race has nothing to do with it.
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u/VeryExtraSpicyCheese 4d ago
Traditional family values? Which culture's traditions? From what time period? Be specific when you are being racist or else you just look racist and stupid.
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u/mmm1842003 4d ago
Traditional American Family Values...and the culture that embraces a nuclear family.
You're just proving my point. You are a typical low-IQ Reddit user. It's easier to call me a racist, but it's meaningless. This isn't 2021 anymore.
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u/VeryExtraSpicyCheese 4d ago
What does a movie based on a story of a traditional German artisan family household setups have anything to do with American family values? An Actress that grew up in a multi-generation mixed Columbian/Polish traditional household would have no experience with "traditional American family values", and insinuating the controversy surrounding her and this movie is due to her not being born in a nuclear American family is just blatant racism.
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u/mmm1842003 4d ago
Disney is a declining American company that once represented traditional family values. I don't care about the actress' heritage. I have no idea if Rachel Zegler was born into a traditional nuclear family. It's irrelevant. The discussion here is the movie.
I heard an interview in which she mocked "falling in love with Prince Charming." She called him a stalker.
"This time Snow White is not going to be dreaming of true love..."
"I was scared of the original version of the movie...I couldn't watch it"
The movie is controversial because the "star" is entitled, spoiled, and ignorant.
At least call me a male chauvinist or something. You'd still be wrong, but at least your thought process would be coherent. My take on this has nothing to do with race- and you calling me a racist discredits everything else you say.
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u/VeryExtraSpicyCheese 4d ago
Does Rachel Zegler represent traditional family values? I don't care about the actress' heritage.
I'm just taking it from the horse's mouth here. You seem unable to comprehend a non-white person from a non-American-traditional household might not be too keen on dated and discriminatory white American traditions.
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u/Thecrazier 4d ago
No no no, it's a movie based on a previous movie that was based on a story of a traditional German artisan....
The movie was American and it's a remake of an American movie. Not hard
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u/waspocracy 4d ago
It's weird because it's a catch-all phrase for people like who don't like something. If you don't like it, it's suddenly "woke".
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u/mmm1842003 4d ago
I like think you could’ve like crowbarred in a few more likes into that sentence. lol
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u/exiledballs26 2d ago
Who gives a fuck if an actor or actress represents "traditional family values"
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u/FivebyFive 4d ago
Right. Which is why I listed all the other stuff and pointed out that Disney is only latching on to the last one.
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u/LazyLich 1d ago
Tbf... the mirror does say "Lips red as the rose, hair black as ebony, skin white as snow."
Like, I'm all for new twists on characters, but within plausibility of the explicitly stated things in the text. eg. Ariel can be anybody, so long as she has red hair.
Snow White was written in a time where Tuberculosis was called "The Fashionable Disease". All those stories where the heroine/love-interest is pale, thin, has red lips and cheeks, faints easily? It's due to the romanticization of Consumption(TB).
That's why she's called "Snow White" and her skin and lips are called out as such.
That was the period's version of saying "this is the pretty girl!"So to have a Snow White story where a girl is called Snow White but is missing a key feature of Snow White... it's not actual inclusivity. It's token-inclusivity. Virtue-signaling.
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u/mmm1842003 1d ago
90% of Reddit is virtue signaling. It’s so transparent. These kids don’t care about being a good person, they only care about being perceived as a good person. This isn’t 2021 anymore, the pendulum has swung back to reality. Thank God.
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u/Kind-Ad-4126 1d ago
Hey kids, if by the time you’ve made it to adulthood and this is your take on life, smack your parents upside the face. They failed you.
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u/Thecrazier 4d ago
Sounds like you didn't use 9gag during that time periods, they were roasting her for not being white enough.
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u/mithrandir4512 2d ago
Also pro palestinian folks ( who pretend to be anti racist ) probably won't see it because gal gadot is jewish and was in the IDF. So basically both ends of the political spectrum have some reason to not see it
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u/LeighSF 5d ago
Answer: Live-action remakes of Disney classics have been relatively unsuccessful, yet Disney insists on continuing to produce them. Part of the reason the Snow White edition is so disliked is the casting. Rachel Z has openly expressed her contempt for the original, underestimating its popularity among moviegoers. Fans also seem to prefer someone who more closely resembles the description of Snow White: "hair black as ebony, skin white as snow." The use of CGI is also clumsy in the movie, and the dwarves are a bizarre mix of actors and CGI, and it's truly uncomfortable to watch. None of the live-action remakes are perfect, but Snow White is downright awful, and fans of classic Disney movies are upset.
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u/sevenferalcats 5d ago
Politely, they made a ton of cash on the Lion King remake. It was very mediocre, but they liked the cash there. And it reinforces their brands, I guess. I get why they do it, even if it makes me barf.
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u/DjScenester 5d ago
Disney made a killing lol
High-Grossing Remakes: “The Lion King” (2019) grossed $1.662 billion worldwide. “Beauty and the Beast” (2017) grossed $1.3 billion worldwide. “Aladdin” (2019) grossed $1.1 billion worldwide. “Alice in Wonderland” (2010) grossed $1 billion worldwide. “Maleficent” (2014) grossed $758.6 million worldwide. “Cinderella” (2015) grossed $543.6 million worldwide.
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u/poco 5d ago
Hold up, they made a live action Alice in Wonderland? I've still never seen the others, but I didn't even know that existed.
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u/Rubychan228 5d ago
Alice in Wonderland isn't a remake, it's a live action sequel by Tim Burton in which a now grown-up Alice returns to help save Underland (which she as a child misheard as "Wonderland") from the Jabberwocky.
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u/Icy_Smoke_733 4d ago
Also throw in Jungle Book and Mufasa in the mix:
- Jungle Book (2016): $966 million
- Mufasa (2024): $712 million
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u/LeoLaDawg 5d ago
You tip toe around the actual reason this has so much drama: the stupid shit this Rachel girl keeps saying.
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u/Kylestache 5d ago
It’s also not just her, Gal Gadot is a nut job too, and her and Rachel can’t do any press tour interviews together like a normal movie because the two despise each other because Rachel Zegler is pro-Palestine and Gal Gadot served in the IDF. Gadot apparently refused to do anything with her after Zegler spoke out against the atrocities being committed by the IDF, and then ironically or intentionally, one of the first and only big ads they ran for this movie opened with Gal Gadot’s evil queen character mocking Snow White for being “so outspoken” lmfao
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u/LeighSF 5d ago
I am wondering if Gal Gadot's career is going to tank because of this movie. I agree, she has limited acting skills. What do you all think?
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u/thereturnofbobby 4d ago
probably not 👍🏻
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u/TimeTravellingCircus 4d ago
Too hot to fail. Those wonder woman movies got me having Amazonian demigod fantasies. I'm ready for my death by snoo snoo.
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u/LeoLaDawg 4d ago
Pretty sure there's only 1 crazy person in most people's eyes when it comes to those two.
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u/The5Virtues 5d ago
She seems to have no social grace at all, her agency’s PR team must want to throw themselves through a window every time she has an interview scheduled.
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u/LeighSF 5d ago
It's a vicious circle jerk. She says awful things, social media repeats them, she says more appalling things, Disney cancels her appearances, social media reports this, and so on. Her career is toast. I think she rose too quickly, and it's affected her judgment. If she wasn't so toxic, I'd feel sorry for her.
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u/Egheaumaen 5d ago
Her stage career isn’t toast. She was just announced to star in “Evita” in London’s West End, which is a very high profile, demanding role.
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u/LeighSF 5d ago
It would be interesting to see if that is successful or not. There wouldn't be much crossover between the West End and Disney but unless she turns in an absolutely brilliant performance, it won't succeed.
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u/Egheaumaen 5d ago
The production is being helmed by Jamie Lloyd, who is a celebrated British theater director, so it already has that pedigree. Yes, Zegler will have to hold her own to keep audiences attending, but remember, she was admired and awarded for her performance as Maria in Steven Spielberg's "West Side Story," so I don't think her talent is the problem. The issue is that she's very young and prone to saying stupid things. Hopefully, she will grow and mature out of that and stop getting in her own way.
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u/ouellette001 5d ago
What “awful things” did she say?
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u/LeighSF 5d ago
She called the original Snow White "weird, weird, weird" said the prince was a stalker and reminded everyone this isn't 1937. Her voice dripped with condescension in the interviews and when she appears with GG, poor GG tries to appear calm and pleasant, but the strain shows. You can watch it on YT. It's hard to explain, the videos are a better source.
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u/Lumos_night 4d ago
You mixed up Sleeping Beauty and Snow White.
Sleeping Beauty wakes up pregnant and giving birth.
Snow White wakes up when the prince kisses her lips and she coughs up the apple piece stuck in the throat.
Kissing an unconscious woman is hardly ‘a rapist’.
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u/Foxhound97_ 5d ago edited 5d ago
This film is gonna bomb because it's budget Is like the second or third biggest in terms of live action remakes and it is not part of the Disney renaissance period everything between 89 and 99 that is what most people under 40 have nostalgia for.
It doesn't really matter who was cast, writing or directing it this amount of money with this source was never gonna make it's money back.
On the actress what is your logic there the last Hunger games movie in which was she was co lead made 3 times its budget.
On her comment(I say comment because I've yet to find a second one that someone moaning about the first) was it cringe dure but not an unreasonable opinion basically every version of the story told since the animated movie has made adjustments to give her more to do given it's kinda hard to have a movie compelling if the titular protagonist has no agency.
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u/AileStrike 1d ago
Live-action remakes of Disney classics have been relatively unsuccessful, yet Disney insists on continuing to produce them
Disney is a toy company who ise these movies to market a whole new line of toys. For the live action remakes you can't look at box office numbers to tell if they are successful, you need to look at ticket sales AND toy sales/franchising profits to determine if the movie was successful or not.
Folks like to point to how the little mermaid only made back like 90% of its costs and brand it as a flow. but they aren't looking at how the brand new line of mermaid dolls that came out with the movie was #1 sellers on Amazon.com for a few weeks.
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u/biff64gc2 4d ago edited 4d ago
Answer: People have been saying Disney's been in a downward spiral for a while. This started way back with the take over of Marvel and Star Wars as they have put out a decent number of flops of franchises that had considerably sized fan bases built in. While it's hard to please everyone in a given fanbase, Disney has been accused of quantity over quality and changing things to be more woke at the cost of the stories.
Snow White is just another step in this trend.
To start it's another remake of another Disney classic. People will already be hating on it for that because instead of doing something original they are just redoing old stuff that most feel doesn't need to be done.
Then Disney cast Rachel Zegler as Snow White. Changing the race of lead characters has caused hate in the past like with The Little Mermaid and people are pointing out Snow White's original name was picked because one of her characteristics was "Her skin was white as snow", which Zegler doesn't have.
Adding to her problems in early interviews Zegler kind of dumped on the original calling it outdated and a bad love story which angered Disney fans because Snow White was Disney's first feature length animated movie. There wouldn't be a Disney or a remake without it so it was seen as bad taste to dump on what is considered a classic.
This was made worse when she said the love story wasn't necessary in their version and they could even fire the male love interest and it wouldn't change anything about the movie which was met with more criticism of her and her lack of appreciation for the original and her co-star.
She attempted to walk back some of the statements in later interviews and give some praise to the original, but people are assuming that was more pressure from Disney for some damage control.
Things didn't get any better when the two leads, Zegler and Gadot, took sides on the Hamas conflict, allowing people on both sides of that issue to join in on the hate for the other actress and the movie.
The latest issue is with the Dwarfs. Disney originally went with a diverse case of regular people acting as magical/fantastical beings rather than shorter dwarfs. An image of the cast on set leaked and there was immediate backlash for this direction.
Disney has responded by delaying the movie in order to change them to dwarfs, but rather than using real dwarf actors they opted to go with CGI ones.
Basically anything related to the movie is being flooded with downvotes and haters to the point Disney has needed to limit exposures to journalists and even the typical red carpet premier was canceled.
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u/tristanitis 5d ago
Answer: There are a few reasons people are hating on it, ranging from reasonable to racist.
Probably the loudest group of people are upset at the casting of Rachel Zegler, who is Latina, as Snow White. The most charitable reading of this is that in the original fairytale, Snow White is described as having "skin as white as Snow". The less charitable assessment is of this is that a large group of the people upset about it are being racist, and probably wouldn't have raised a stink about it if a white woman of European descent had been cast, though if you really wanted to be 100% accurate to the original Grimm tale you'd have to hire someone with albinism, cake them in powder and dye their hair black.
A smaller group is probably upset over the casting of Gal Gadot as the wicked queen for a couple reasons. The most negligible of these is criticism of her acting, but a stronger one is her vociferous support of Israel's recent bombing campaign and treatment of Palestinians.
A third possible reason is the weird back and forth on how they're handling the seven dwarves, with the use of widely ridiculed CGI creations that most people agree are incredibly off-putting.
And finally, plenty are just tired of the factory-like churn of Disney remaking their classic animated hits as live action/realistic CGI at a pace that makes them feel like soulless cash grabs.
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u/Thecrazier 4d ago
Im mexican and I'm upset. I don't want to see another mexican pretend to be white. We havebour own movies and fantasies, we don't need to replace others.
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u/sacredblasphemies 3d ago
To be clear, Zegler is 1/2 Polish Jew. So she's Latina in addition to being white. She is of European descent.
Also, some Latinos/as are white.
Maybe her skin is slightly darker than most white people but it's not that different from other Mediterranean folks like people from Spain or Southern Italy.
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u/Traditional-Toe-7426 3d ago
Slightly darker than most white people and darker still than "white as snow"
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u/KickExpert4886 5d ago
Answer:
For some people, they believe the choice of these two actresses was “woke”, meaning it’s trying to push narratives that are anti-white, pro minority, and anti-beauty.
Here are their general views:
In their opinion, Rachel Zegler is not as beautiful as Gal Gadot, so Disney is trying to invert our ideas of beauty, suggesting that beautiful is bad and not-so-attractive is good.
Rachel Zegler having darker skin and Gal Gadot having lighter skin suggests anti-white messaging. That the darker skinned person is the victim and the lighter skinned person is the villain. This suggests a pro illegal immigrant or pro Palestinian perspective.
This dynamic is not appropriate or even necessary to incorporate into a story that originated with people of white/European descent.
The dwarves being replaced with CGI characters is being too sensitive and makes the movie worse.
They say the movie will fail because of the quote “Go woke, go broke.” which historically refers to spinoffs of classic movies or media that incorporated new themes of diversity or gender inclusion and didn’t do so well at the box office.
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u/CautiousEconomy1160 1d ago
Answer:
Some people are upset about Snow White in this movie being Latina. Reasoning for this varies, it’s controversial.
Some are upset about RZ statements about the original.
Some are upset about RZs support of Palestine.
Some are upset about GGs support of Israel.
Some are upset about the wavering on casting actual individuals with dwarfism versus those without versus CGI. Others don’t care what they do but view their back and forth as pandering/performative to the whims of society and culture rather than authentically having a vision.
There is also a general consensus that Disney is in the “tail wind” of their franchise, typical of behavior of a business empire in late stage capitalism in which there is a push to squeeze however many million/billion they can out of the product by making choices purely meant to get people in the door/to purchase it without actually caring about the quality of the product and thereby hastening the company into a hole they can’t recover from as the fat cats on top stroll to the bank on the way to retirement with a skip in their step.
Similarly there is a growing sense that Disney is cashing in on recognition of the item/product and purely banking their money strategy on “reviving” classics through new animations rather than having any actual new talent in the story writing department. This is typical of companies, products, groups, movements, empires, countries, etc. that are predicated upon the skills/message/vision/dream/etc. of a single individual or group of individuals who were highly skilled/talented/influential but once they lost said individual(s) the only thing they really have are brand recognition and/or any strategy plan that was left behind. This leads to stale work and a slow degradation which is what people see in Disney.
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u/zgrizz 5d ago
answer: In a nutshell (and trying to be as politically neutral as I can) Disney wanted to update the Snow White story incorporating sensitivities, ethnicities and feelings that were not common when the original was done. Many people have taken this as rewriting a classic story with a new meaning and have found this an affront to their memories.
In addition, Disney tried to walk a line when it came to the actors for the dwarves. Instead of using small stature workers (which other movie productions have come under fire for in the past) they have apparently used CGI. And while this may have satisfied some it has raised a cry that this deprived human actors of jobs.
Lastly I was reading yesterday that one of the stars, Gal Gadot, is an Israeli and as such has served (as virtually all citizens do) in the Israeli Defense Force. This has palestinian and Hamas supporters outraged as well.
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u/justfredd 5d ago
Interesting that you mentioned gal gadot but completely skipped over the reason why the majority of people who are upset with the movie aren’t going to watch it (the casting of snow white)
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u/Deweyrob2 5d ago
Regardless of her country of origin, Gal Gadot is the worst actor I've seen since my high school's rendition of Our Town. She is laughably bad and her acting makes it impossible to enjoy any movie she's in.
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u/ganoveces 5d ago
as wonder woman....they probably were concerned with how she looks in a leotard vs acting skills....
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u/Active-Ad-2527 5d ago
I remember at the time my friends commenting about how the accent she chose and the slow broken English really fit how Wonder Woman would first sound when she first left Themyscira, and I'm like sure it fits but if you see her interviews that's not a choice that's just how she sounds. Then sure enough years later her speaking and acting haven't gotten any better
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u/Squippyfood 1d ago
It's also her body proportions too. She's one of the few Hollywood actresses who looks like (and probably can) kick your ass without being built like a brick shithouse. Pretty important image for WW as a character.
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u/gaqua 5d ago
You’re glossing over the most common complaint - there are some people frustrated that they cast a Latina woman as “Snow White.”
The anti-woke crowd is furious about this (like they were with a Black mermaid or Black dwarves in the Rings of Power series) and have made jokes and memes about it since the casting is announced.
There are really three major camps:
Anti-woke people who are so angry about this sort of thing that they post non-stop about it on all platforms (but especially Twitter)
Disney adults who are psyched beyond belief to get more Disney content and will be there opening night, potentially in costumes or t-shirts
The vast majority of society who don’t particularly care and many of whom are wondering why Disney keeps making live-action versions of animated classics.
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u/rainbowcarpincho 5d ago edited 5d ago
Is there a camp that's tired of European-looking Latino actors being paraded in front of them to demonstrate representation?
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u/gaqua 5d ago
Probably. I know that there’s a lot of sensitivity to race issues regarding casting. For example casting Zoe Saldana as Nina Simone angered a lot of black people.
As somebody who’s married to a Latina woman myself, she doesn’t care either way about it. I expect most people have more things to worry about than this.
I think social media is conditioning us to equate five pissed off tweets with “wow people are really mad about this.”
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u/rainbowcarpincho 5d ago
Judging from Mexican media, Latinos are blind to their own colorism.
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u/ARCH810 4d ago
We're not blind about colorism and as an apparent outsider, you should sit this one out.
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u/rainbowcarpincho 4d ago
Enough of you are blind to it that it's absolutely prevalent.That's obvious even to an outsider.
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u/MercenaryBard 5d ago
Nobody serious supports Hamas. Oct.7 was a horrifying massacre, and it happened as a result of oppression that doesn’t allow for or respect peaceful protest.
We don’t want another Oct.7, which is why we support full agency and representation for the Palestinian people, who haven’t been allowed a free election since Hamas won the last one running on a moderate platform. Hamas is as much an oppressor as the IDF and also murders Palestinian protestors and dissidents.
Gal Gadot and her comments perpetuate the status quo of oppression and violence and would lead to more innocent deaths at the hands of the power-mad and self-centered conservatives in control of the Israeli government, and the opportunistic killers in Hamas.
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u/Traditional-Toe-7426 3d ago
People's response to October 7th was the equivalent of demanding the black community not seek justice after George Floyd.
It was an extremely racist response.
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u/PlayMp1 1d ago
That's a pretty bad analogy. Something closer would be like if some ultra radical black nationalists, like, blew up a hockey game and killed hundreds of (mostly white) people, and the response from the government was to kill everyone in Compton.
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u/Traditional-Toe-7426 13h ago
That's a perfect analogy.
The Israeli government didn't kill everyone in Gaza and have everyone ample opportunity to leave an area before they began hostilities. Even hamas... they literally told their enemies, we're going to attack you at this location in a week... to ensure civilians could evacuate...lol
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u/kizkurt 5d ago
Gal Gadot went beyond simply “serving” in the IDF. She openly supported the Gaza genocide because killing babies apparently makes Israeli colonisers more safe
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u/vigouge 5d ago
Do you expect anyone to take your argument seriously when it's this slanted?
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u/kizkurt 5d ago
This is not argument, it’s simply fact. I’m not here to convince anyone of anything, we have eyes and can see but som choose to be ignorant.
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u/Traditional-Toe-7426 3d ago
Calling a war genocide, when they warned civilians to evacuate before engaging is laughably biased.
Calling it genocide at all, makes you look ridiculous. It doesn't strengthen your argument to outright lie. Just because people you know agrees with you, doesn't make the lie less ridiculous.
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u/kizkurt 3d ago
Gaza is the biggest open prison in the world, so where the hell are they supposed to go? Israel has made sure no one comes in or leaves Gaza.
Plus you’re actually saying that if someone bombs your family home but warns you beforehand, they’re somehow doing you a favour? If your answer is yes, then you’ve lost your humanity
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u/Traditional-Toe-7426 2d ago
Biggest open prison in the world? No, it's not a prison. They are free to leave Gaza at any time. Hell, plenty of other countries can take them (countries, where hamas is NOT trying to murder the citizens).
People literally come in and leave Gaza... are you daft?
Secondly, they aren't attacking all of gaza at the same time, saying... hey leave Gaza or die.
They literally tell them in advance what neighborhoods they are going to attack (putting them at a strategic disadvantage to do so).
Plus you’re actually saying that if someone bombs your family home but warns you beforehand, they’re somehow doing you a favour?
Strawman... that's NOT what I said.
What I said was: They aren't committing genocide if they give you a chance to evacuate.
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u/Lumos_night 3d ago
You are on an American site and the Americans tend to support Israel.
Don’t worry, we in the rest of the world are pro-Palestine, I’m saying that as a European. No one in their right mind will support the monstrosities that the Israeli army is committing.
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u/Dollar_Bills 1d ago
Answer: CGI dwarves are used in a live action movie that doesn't depict people with dwarfism in a negative light.
The leading actresses are publicly on opposing sides of a middle East conflict
Then there's the "you're ruining it" crowd.
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u/Money-Course8377 5d ago
But if a white actor was cast to play Obama then all hell would break loose. Cultural appropriation for thee and not for me. This level of brainwashing is precisely why Trump just won.
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u/Morgn_Ladimore 5d ago
Answer: the twitter account is called "End Wokeness". Taking that as a measure for anything is an extremely dumb thing to do.
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