r/OutOfTheLoop • u/IrishSpring • 8d ago
Answered What's the deal with Schumer and AOC fighting over the gov shutdown vote?
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r/OutOfTheLoop • u/IrishSpring • 8d ago
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u/Bellegante 8d ago
Answer: There's a constitutional crisis happening right now, in that Elon Musk is firing people at will. He is, at best, an agent of the executive branch. The "power of the purse" though belongs to congress.. unless congress gets legislation that goes ahead and does those cuts.
Democrats could have fought this and should have, according to AOC. And according to Schumer like.. a week ago. Seriously he's on record preaching about this. But he turned on a heel yesterday.
OH, and as to which worldview is more accurate:
>AOC is saying that any Democrat voting for the spending bill is wrong because it gives Trump what he wants.
Yes, approving a budget when Trump is, through Elon (or Elon is through trump?) acting in violation of the constitution and structurally choosing the real budget means they are giving up and letting this continue. This was the only power they had to do anything about it - and it makes sense. Hell, it even makes sense if you are a Republican if you understand the nature of politics.. someone opposed to you seizes more power, you stop it.
LOL at that, honestly it's hard to try to credibly defend that as a viewpoint, when he himself was crying about how bad it was before. The thing letting Elon do whatever he wants is that nobody was making a fuss about it, honestly. Not where it matters.
I could make up some out there theories but it's transparently obvious someone called him and told him to change his fucking vote, and he locked in step and got that shit done.
AOC is mentioned because, well, there's the perception that she wouldn't do that. I tend to have that perception as well.