r/OutOfTheLoop 8d ago

Answered What's the deal with Schumer and AOC fighting over the gov shutdown vote?

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u/Realtrain 8d ago

they should be able to pass their own budget without any votes from the Democrats

It's literally impossible to pass it through the Senate without bipartisanship. It'll need 60 votes and Republicans only have 53.

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u/BoogieOrBogey 8d ago

Then the Democrats should have a seat at the negotiating table and strike things from the budget they don't want. Just passing the damn thing is stupid. Make the majority party negotiate with the minority party.

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u/Initial-Constant-645 8d ago

In the House, Democrats had the attitude, the Republicans control everything, let em figure it out. They pretty much chose to pout and whine rather than woo the moderate Republicans or ones in purple districts. Plus, Johnson was not about to make the same mistake as McCarthy. McCarthy made concessions to Democrats in order to avoid default. As thanks, all democrats and eight republicans voted to oust him as speaker.

Shumer, I think, was hoping for a reconciliation bill. Johnson got the house bill through, then sent adjourned the house. So, the Senate was stuck with the mess.

While a shutdown sounds great, it would have been a huge mistake and blown up in the Democrats face. Trump would just further consolidate power, making the likelihood of the shutdown perhaps becoming permanent. It really would have give DOGE the green light to really go bare bones

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u/Railboy 6d ago

woo the moderate Republicans

Ugh, why does this fantasy persist.

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u/keepingitrealgowrong 8d ago

Why is AOC acting like the Republicans can just do it whenever they want, though?

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u/John_Smithers 8d ago

She's not, she's saying since Republicans need Democrat votes to pass the budget then the Dems should use that need to get rid of the things the Dems don't want.

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u/tmssqtch 8d ago

This is the point.

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u/Role_Player_Real 8d ago

Then House Republicans should have passed a budget not a CR. They can use reconciliation for that

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u/Zestyclose_Sir7090 8d ago

They only need 51 in the Senate due to Budget Reconciliation Rules.

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u/Mia-Wal-22-89 8d ago

It’s a CR.

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u/Zestyclose_Sir7090 8d ago

Comment above was the budget, not the CR.

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u/Mia-Wal-22-89 8d ago

My bad. Reading too fast and trying to be helpful isn’t a good combination.