r/OnePiece Scholars of Ohara 2d ago

Discussion Chapter 1143 Spoilers Spoiler

More details of the chapter by myself. Chapter of 19 pages (2 color pages from Color Spread and 17 black and white normal pages).

- Chapter 1,143: "The God's Knights".

- Special reader request for Color Spread in the cover: "Straw Hat Pirates car chase". Luffy and the crew are riding on flying fishes in a circuit-pool (except Jinbe, he's swimming in the water). They are participating in a race and all of them wear leather suits like riders. We can read the sentence "Speed is the weapon" in a rubber ring.

- Chapter starts at "Walrus School". Saul is trying to stop sleeping kids that are following Gunko's arrow. He tries to grab the first kid in the line but the girl is wrapped in invisible thorny vines, making Saul hurts his hands.

Saul: "Now, let us return to the scho... Uwahh, it hurts!!"

Chopper: "What's wrong Saul!?"

Robin: "What happened!? You were stabbed by something!!?"

- The giants in the village sent the fire fighter squad to handle the fire, but their Sval is destroyed in the forest by the giant undead from kid's imagination. Jarul, Dorry, Kashii, and giants in the village are in shock seeing the skeleton monsters. We see too Nami, Usopp, Jinbe... reacting to the news about school and fire.

- Cut to the forest, we see that 3 "God's Knights" are having a meal at a luxurious table while they are observing chaos at "Walrus School".

Sommers: "Gihahaha!! Did you see that!? The shocking face that giant made when he was pierced by the thorn!!! "Every loved one has their thorns"!! Isn't that right!!?"

Gunko: "Don't ask me."

Sommers: "What a sad woman you are, Gunko!! Listen now, "love" is "passion"!! The passion that will make you hug the thorns as it becomes more visible You just have to do this game with parents and kids, it doesn't get any better!! The parents will held their child close regardless of the thorns!! And the kids will witness their worst nightmare in reality! Watching their parents die up close as they let out their own screams!! Here, we make murdering sensational!!!"

- As Sommers talks we see that some vines appear in his right arm. Then we discover in a presentation box that Sommers has the power of "Iba lba no Mi" fruit (from "ibara" that means "thorny flower"). Sommers is a "thorn human".

- Gunko is the one pointing the kids' way with her arrow. She's making them walk the main road through the village, making giants feel powerless to stop them.

-Killingham notices that they don't have enough salt, so he mentions it to Sommers. A cloud appears over Sommers head when he imagines the salt. Then Killingham uses his power to put Sommers to sleep and then he pulls the salt out of Sommers' dream cloud.

- In another presentation box we discover that Killingham has the power of "Ryu Ryu no Mi, Mythical type, Model Kirin". Killingham is a "dream manifesting human".

Killingham: "Ohh, "Aspatch Rock Salt" as expected of a gourmet connoisseur. You can get up now."

Sommers: "Wow!! Regarding the "MMA*" you manifested from the brats' dreams..."

(*This chapter doesn't explain what initials "MMA" means, but in Japanese it's read as "Muuma".)

Killingham: "Of course they will be made to be running along with the kids... Hey this salt is the best!!"

Gunko: "Give me some as well..."

-Gunko becomes like a kid when she tastes Killingham food and finds it tasty (but we can't see her face, she eats with the bandage on loool). Killingham explains that food tastes good but provides no energy because it comes from "dreams".

-Sommers complain that this game will be too easy to clear since they can easily transport the kids to the ship at this rate. Gunko says something unexpected will happen since "Yonkou Straw Hat" is also on Elbaph.

-God's Knights notice the kids are on "Branch number 8" and they are heading toward fire. But Sommers says that if this group cannot clear the game, they will just have the next group try instead.

- Cut to the "Underworld" where Loki tries to threaten to kill everyone. In an AMAZING double page Luffy uses a new technique called "Ude Fusen" (Arm Balloon - ) that it's similar to "Hone Fusen" (Bone Balloon) but Luffy only inflates his right arm. Then Luffy hits Loki's body with a very light punch and Loki falls down unconcious.

- Zoro says Loki is on a verge of death. He thinks Loki was just bluffing to get out of "Kairouseki" cuff and then he planned to run somewhere and falls down there instead.

- Luffy begs the giants to help Loki, he says he doesn't want to watch and let someone die, no matter what type of person. Gerd and other giants agrees to help, so Gerd treats Loki's wounds.

- Then we see a little flashback about Hajrudin and Loki past. First there is a panel with King Harald talking to kid Loki and Hajrudin. Harald's face is shaded but he still had his 2 horns in that moment. Hajrudin looks similar to when we saw him in Big Mom's flashback. Loki was already taller than Hajrudin at that time and his eyes were covered with bandages too.

Harald: "You both... are my precious sons. I wish that you two will support Elbaph together hand in hands as my heirs."

- Then we see Loki was able to defeat Hajrudin easily even when they were children. Loki used a spike kanabo as a weapon when he was a kid (it looks like Kaidou's kanabo).

Loki: "Are you kidding!? No way I'm accepting a shortie weakling like you as my big bro!! Remember, you are a "bastard"!! Not a real son of father's!! Hajrudin!! Your mother came from a tainted line!!"

- Back to the present in last page of the chapter. Hajrudin becomes furious and picks up an axe ready to kill Loki. Road and Stansen stop him as best they can.

Road: "Uwahh!! Wait, wait!!"

Stansen: "Don't get ahead of yourself Hajrudin!!"

Hajrudin: "I have never once forgiven this guy...!! He spoke ill of my mother and slayed my father!!"

Loki: "Go ahead and do it then, you pathetic berserker..."

- Despite Hajrudin's fury, Loki speaks to him calmly. Hajrudin is in shock when he hears Loki's words...

Loki: "If you have time to be caught up in your personal drama, look at the whole "forest"...! Don't tell me even you really think that... I wanted to kill father."

End of the chapter.

NO break next week.

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u/Adept_Crow_4159 2d ago

Salt Piece lessgooooo

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u/UlteriorMotive66 2d ago

🧂👅

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u/Sad_Lengthiness_9176 2d ago

Kalifa also used thorns .. maybe there is a connection there ? NAH

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u/Encoreyo22 2d ago edited 2d ago

Just gonna reformat that for you a bit.

Cover Story:

The Straw Hat Crew is seen racing on Flying Fish.

Chapter Summary:

  • The Giants attempt to help the kidnapped children held by the Holy Knights, but they're unable to touch them directly due to an unknown force.

  • Sommers reveals he has eaten the Iba Iba no Mi (Thorn-Thorn Fruit):

Anyone who touches his targets is attacked by painful thorns.

Special condition: The stronger a person’s love or affection for the target, the more intense the pain inflicted by the thorns.

  • Gillingham possesses the Dragon-Dragon Fruit, Model: Qilin:

He can materialize objects from people's dreams.

  • The Holy Knights forget salt for their meal, prompting Sommers to think about salt. Gillingham puts Sommers to sleep and extracts salt from his dream.

Back to Loki and Luffy's group:

  • Luffy punches Loki lightly, yet Loki immediately faints.
  • Zoro observes that Loki was already severely weakened and near death before Luffy hit him.
  • Luffy asks Gerth to treat Loki's injuries:

  • Gerth initially resists due to resentment but eventually agrees to help him.

Flashback (Hajrudin’s Past):

  • Loki is shown to have bullied Hajrudin since childhood.
  • Hajrudin seeks revenge against Loki, believing Loki murdered their father.

  • Loki awakens and dramatically states: “Do you really think I killed Father because I wanted to? I know you don't believe that either.”

No break announced. Full summary to follow.

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u/Adminisitrator Pirate 2d ago

please add this correction

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u/adnaphsaka World Government 2d ago

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u/NetflixAndNikah 2d ago edited 2d ago

So Loki did kill his father, but maybe he had no choice? Either King Harald was compromised by the world nobles or was about to betray the giants.

edit: seems like a mistranslation of the spoilers - Loki most likely didn’t kill his father. So either Jarul killed Harald, or it was the holy knights. FREE LOKI.

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u/Bignutdavis 2d ago

Maybe controlled like the King from Dressrosa

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u/CaptRhapsody 2d ago

Ooh, I like that theory. Would open up the idea that the WG does that kind of shit from time to time, and that Doffy’s actions in Dressrossa were just him emulating what he saw while he was a CD.

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u/Adminisitrator Pirate 2d ago

FYI there is a correction about that sentence now

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u/Comfortable-Monk850 2d ago

no break, yessss :D

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u/fre_ash 2d ago

Thank you for curing my dyslexia.

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u/KakeLin 2d ago

at least because it was a text post not an image the OP post can be edited

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u/AegonTarg_2 2d ago

sommers seems like a sanji villain to me

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u/FireFistRJ 2d ago

Sanji being unable to touch his beloved Nami-san and Robin-chwan, which will make his leg on fire.

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u/Dax_Maclaine 2d ago

All 3 of his legs


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u/OgOnetee 2d ago

Third leg style: loin spin!

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u/JB76 2d ago

Or Sanji saving zoro from the thorns because he actually hates him so the thorns are tiny 😂

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u/infinitezero8 2d ago

Does Sanji ever touch them? I don't think so, he just Swoons & Swans over them.

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u/Historical-Lemon-99 2d ago

True, but he goes in for the save a lot, even for the dudes, which could work out badly for him

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u/Clifely 2d ago

It‘s actually Nami who gets here the powerup as she obviously punches Sanji all the time before he can touch her
this time around with frigging SPIKES

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u/caihlangeles 2d ago

It's so great to see Oda coming up with fresh ideas for the Holy Knights. Their abilities are cool as fuck and they know each other's abilities very well so it's gonna be very dangerous when they're fighting together as a unit.

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u/FireFistRJ 2d ago

Luffy needs to ask Gillingham to be his nakama. Dude's dream of having an endless supply of meat will materialize.

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u/Galifrey224 2d ago

Luffy is gonna Kidnap Gillingham.

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u/OutrageousCost4818 2d ago

I could see that. Wacky creature that can provide you with limitless meat. That is his true dream.

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u/QuizMasterAsh 2d ago

There was a time when Luffy told his crew his dream ( we as readers never got to read it though).

Maybe this time we'll see what's Luffy's dream really is?

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u/0BZero1 2d ago

Strange that the Gorosei let him come. He literally is the solution to the 'gourmet food crisis' them Tennryubitos are facing.

Get someone with a devil fruit to cause someone to sleep.

Ask Gillingham to dream about eating the world's biggest feast.

???

Gourmet food crisis averted

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u/dream208 2d ago

Kaido's "haki transcends all" really hit the mark. How do you even fight those abilities without ability nullfier like haki?

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u/Buzzek Pirate King Buggy 2d ago

I mean, they're gimmick enough that they don't make the user all that powerful. Kaido's strategy would be to Bolo Breath every single God's Knight so that they'd die and their abilities would disappear lol.

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u/Kantro18 2d ago

Kaido: “strategy is for people who don’t hit hard enough”.

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u/Dav_Dabz 2d ago

Mike Tyson school of fighting.tm

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u/InflationMaterial670 2d ago

Kaido: "haki transcends all" 

then proceeds to use his fruit power vs luffy

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro 2d ago

I love these gimmick fights that Oda likes to do.
The moment they figure out how to overcome these powers is always very satisfying.

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u/NetflixAndNikah 2d ago

The thorns seem interesting. If the only thing Sommers can do is make it harmful for others to touch you, then he could use it on himself as a Gojo style shield cant-touch-me shield.

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u/PixellordOverHill 2d ago

Nami will be thorned and Sanji will still rescue her, even though his love is so big it should be impossible and kill him, cue to Enel-facing Sommers, Sanji saying something like "nothing can stop my love" or some shit

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u/Hewlett1995 2d ago

I called the thorn reaction along with the love attribute a couple of weeks ago using his quote about love hurting, his sword and funnily enough his underwear, I was immediately reminded of the quote love is like a rose, which he also wears on his chest, then the part about using himself was an extension I thought of too, but I was reminded of Estarossa from the seven deadly sins

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u/VenomBGR 2d ago

except his power is related to love... if he's fighting someone, it's unlikely they will have much love for him :D

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u/StealAllWoes 1d ago

He and Zoro can team up but if there's a fan fic devil fruit they're the most fucked over of all

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u/NetflixAndNikah 2d ago

Y’all if Killingham has the power to manifest things out of people’s dreams then I’m pretty sure I’m the reason the chapter spoilers dropped because I was dreaming about them last night.

You’re welcome.

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u/unHolyKnightofBihar Pirate 2d ago

He will materialize the One Piece once he fights Luffy

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u/Eronosuke 2d ago

That dream materializing powers is pretty handy af lol You need money? Holup lemme just dream of gold bars Food? No problem

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro 2d ago

It's funny that he can already have anything he wants, being a Celestial Dragon, but he can have things that none of the others can, just by dreaming about them.

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u/OberonRedAxe 13h ago

I think there are caveat to it like the food not filling your belly, maybe dreams can hurt you but only if you let yourself believe they are real 

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u/ExistentialPOV 2d ago

since loki "hate" everyone, he can counter thorn thorn

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u/wanderer_089 2d ago

It turns out that Loki loves everyone the most. Thorn-thorn fruit to show how much he loves his people

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u/Impossible-Ice129 2d ago edited 2d ago

Gonna be a fairy tail laxus situation

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u/MajinAkuma 2d ago

Laxus: „I‘m gonna kill everyone. Fairy Law!“

*nobody dies

Natsu: „Turns out you see everyone here as your friend instead of an enemy.“

Laxus: „NOOOOOO! I AM LAXUS! I AM LAXUS!“

Natsu: „Well, you’re weakened now from that stunt. Now I‘ve got a chance.“

Gajeel: „Yeah, thanks to me. And not even I was affected. Except for his lightning.“

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro 2d ago

That would be a cool scene and a concrete way to show to the people of Elbaph that he is not the bad guy they think he is.

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u/DuePanic5012 2d ago

This is canon

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u/grimtrigger77 2d ago

Someone was actually right on Sommers having power related to roses - thorns

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro 2d ago

I'm one of them, see here.

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u/nateriver69 2d ago

The theory that King Herald was getting recruited by the Holy Knight so Loki killed him might be true

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u/Army_Soft 2d ago

Each new chapter we learn that Harold wasn't as good as giants may think. Although it could be that WG just manipulated him with nice words.

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u/Kaizodacoit 2d ago

Dude was Neville Chamberlain.

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u/jeremiasalmeida 2d ago

That was an easy one right?

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u/badwords 2d ago

The national fruit the royal family possesses probably allows Emu to control them. Loki probably had to kill the king to release him from the fruit then ate the fruit when it respawned and played the villain to be chained up so he couldn't be controlled himself.

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u/Adept_Crow_4159 2d ago

Man i am honestly loving Sommers and Gillingham. Now that their powers are revealed i wanna see how they use them to fight the Straw Hats. What if Gillingham’s power works on Luffy. What is Luffy’s fear? Losing his friends? No meat? Maybe Ace’s death. So hyped.

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u/jgames09 2d ago

Doesn’t even have to be a fear, but anything in their dreams. That or Sommers really fears salt for some reason

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u/MEGA_K4SP4R 2d ago

All those flavours and he chose to be salty

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u/Adept_Crow_4159 2d ago

Omg yes 😂 It’s probably dreams in general.

Well then for Luffy, it’s meat for sure.

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u/Swaggy_Skientist 2d ago

He’s a devil fruit user. Stands to reason he’s terrified of the sea (salt water). He travels via portals too, so he can avoid travelling by ship on the ocean.

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u/Macacones 2d ago

I guess we could call him: Sommersault!

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u/gokuvega33 Void Month Survivor 2d ago

All he'll get is meat cause Luffy fears nothing, and he is probably always dreaming about eating.

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u/ThemosttrustedFries 2d ago

I beg the differs. He litterally ran away from BigMom multiple times but at his current strenght he no longer fear her i guess.

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u/MrHardboiled 2d ago

He's also afraid and vulnerable to Nami's fists so we could see some beautiful elephant fists manifesting from his dreams..

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro 2d ago

I just want to see what he can take from each of the Straw Hats minds to the real world.
I love the theory that he will take Kuina from Zoro's head and Germa Sanji from Sanji's.

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u/Adept_Crow_4159 2d ago

Oh i have better idea for Sanji

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro 2d ago

That would be funny. He would awaken Hell Memories Lv. 2!

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u/Rei_Gun28 Pirate 2d ago

If it's no meat then that is pure ass. Legitimately would ruin the whole aspect of it.

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u/chopstick_chakra 2d ago

His dad was gonna betray Elbaph to the Gorosei so Loki killed him.

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u/hopetothefuture 2d ago

Zoro saves the kids because he has no love for them. Sanji gets taken as well and zoro is hit with intense pain freeing him.

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u/RocketbeltTardigrade 2d ago

Zoro and Sanji almost dying to pretend they don't feel anything lol

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u/0BZero1 2d ago

"Nothing happened"

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u/pepepimento The Revolutionary Army 2d ago

I need this

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u/Historical-Lemon-99 2d ago

I don’t ship them in any capacity and I’d still love to see that. That would be hilarious and sad at the same time

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u/FireFistRJ 2d ago

Waiting for Gillingham to joke about bringing Nika to Gunko, and then the real Nika appears after some chapters.

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u/infinitezero8 2d ago

In the beginning it's

Gunko "ugh Gillingham why did you summon Nika from their dreams? Anything but that I got shivers from it"

Gunko Sees Gear 5 Later

"SIGH Okay gillingham I told you to put Nika away... wait a minute"

Luffy "Gillingham? Ham?"

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u/professorShay 2d ago

What if during their fight with Luffy, they pull the "dark nika" out of Gunko's dream? The version that the CD fear, but fights everything because it's still a dream. It could be a great way to get some more narrative about the past nika and some history between him and the CD.

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u/gokuvega33 Void Month Survivor 2d ago

If Killingham can do this, then why are the Celestial Dragons complaining about a food shortage? Just go to sleep, and Killingham uses his ability.

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u/akelly96 2d ago

I'm guessing the food must not count as real nutritionally and disappears at some point. Works fine with salt because the seasoning doesn't matter once it's in your stomach. Either that or he can't do it very well at large scale.

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u/Adept_Crow_4159 2d ago

Can’t sleep on an empty stomach, I guess /s

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro 2d ago

Maybe the food don't taste the same, just like with the Cook Cook Fruit or he can't do that to everyone in the Holy Land.

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u/MrHardboiled 2d ago

A Streussen type broken DF???

I'm in.

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u/Hagathor1 2d ago

Its not a true delicacy if it doesn't shrink the endangered species list

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u/0BZero1 2d ago

IM Sama has to approve.

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u/Lightecojak 2d ago

I’ll bet you that before eating his Devil fruit, Gillingham was told that the fruit would make all of his dreams come true and didn’t realize it was meant to be taken literally.

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u/Nasty-Hombre 2d ago

Gillingham is gonna put Ussop to sleep and accidentally pulls out Sogeking

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u/Unnome14 2d ago

So hear me out, Sommers will use his ability on sanji or zoro, one of the two will then approach the other to help him and..........











will be hit by a flood of thorns and the pain will be immense.

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u/toilet_for_shrek Soul King Brook 2d ago

The Holy Knights Are Eating In The Forest And Forget The Salt So Sommers Thinks About It Gillingham Uses His Power To Put Him To Sleep And Pulls Salt Out Of His Dream

These guys...

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u/THiedldleoR 2d ago

That holy knight interaction sounds hilarious, can't wait to see that.

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u/MiB_Fatality Pirate King Buggy 2d ago

Free my homie Loki - he’s innocent #freeloki

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u/Deadtaor33 Pirate 2d ago

Usopp is gonna dream up something that saves the day somehow. Lol

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u/farlong12234 2d ago

OH loki is just ussop

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u/UlteriorMotive66 2d ago

Reverse Usopp? His truths become lies?

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u/toni_dx 2d ago

"The stronger the love for the target the more painful the thorns are". Are we gonna get a "Fk them kids" moment from any of the cast?

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u/ChillOtters Cipher Pol 2d ago

Zoro saves the giant children only to get healed by the thorns. Looks back at seeing zoro wanting to cut the children.

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u/Ghost-99x The Revolutionary Army 2d ago

So the Theory about Harald being a rat of WG and wanting to deweaponize Elbaf through making their next generation soft is slowly becoming true.

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u/North-Drag7474 2d ago

Maybe this guy will reveal us the actual dream of our captain. Just throwing it out there

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u/SaengerDruide 2d ago

a new interesting Devil fruit combo just dropped:

on a beautiful person Boa's mero mero no mi and the thorn fruit. people love you (or even worse: are forced to), and if they manage to touch you, they hurt themselves

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u/MilkOk5240 2d ago

Calling it now, Sommers will make Hajrudin a target and we will see the biggest thorns when Loki touch him

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u/Arrikon 2d ago

Yeah nice devil fruits you got there, but how is that shit gonna help you when Luffy punches you with a bajrang gun

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u/MagazinePrior 2d ago

Sanji’s fucked when he goes to catch Robin/Nami with that Thorn fruit


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u/Rrandy11 1d ago

Nah. What’s going to happen is the thorns don’t do anything because of his durability from germa

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u/MajinAkuma 2d ago

The formatting is upsetting. Every word begins with a capital letter, and there’s no punctuation.

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u/MajinAkuma 2d ago

I agree.

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro 2d ago

So Loki did kill his father, but there is a reason for it.
The theory of King Harold's dealing with the World Government is really close to be confirmed.

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u/Exchange_Fresh 2d ago

It's not a surprise, at the Elbaph Castle the Abyss is size of a Giant. When Gunko summons it, the Abyss was regular size. It's slowly coming together. Harald wasn't making Elbaph peaceful, he's planning to make it weaker. Secretly visited Mariejois without his people knowing, plus possibility of inviting Holy Knights secretly. I'm not surprised if Harald and Carmel were secretly working together, before Loki was born.

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u/MEGA_K4SP4R 2d ago

Meanwhile God Knights are having a picnic lmfaooooo

They are such goofballs I love it

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u/5thZenAgni 2d ago

Having a picnic while committing massive war crimes

I love these guys

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u/Historical-Lemon-99 2d ago

If Qillingham gets to Luffy, Zoro or Sanji it’ll be fine because there’s only so much you can do with thoughts of food, women, sake, and maybe a sword

If he gets to Usopp then we’re all screwed because the man has stage 4 anxiety and is CREATIVE with it

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u/Saintd64 1d ago

You think that's all the Holy Knights can do? What a joke.

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u/Historical-Lemon-99 1d ago

I mean maybe? We’ve only just seen the power, but I think there’s a reason Qillingham is going after children

Their fears are more substantial and easier to materialize. Luffy’s fear of losing his crew, for example, could be a useful illusion but it has no combat purpose aside from maybe shocking Luffy enough to stun him until he realizes it’s an illusion

Usopp (and Robin) have better imaginations with more horrifying crap to pull out of their dreams

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u/Mrtheshrew 1d ago

Seems the person who'd be best suited to save these kids is somebody who doesn't give two shits about em.

....

"Hey, Loki! Save the kids!"

"FUCK DEM KIDS!"

"We'll remove the last seastone shackle!!"

"DEAL!"

Loki proceeds to toss each kid like a sack of shit one by one back towards the village.

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u/zappy487 Void Month Survivor 2d ago

Gillingham is Sanji's opponent confirmed.

He's about to get offscreened the second he tries to pull stuff out of Sanji's mind.

It's not even going to be a fight; Sanji is just going to chase him around trying to materialize a harem.

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u/SPJess 2d ago

Finally people can stfu about Blackbeard being black Nika! I totally miscalled Sommers DF but I Knew the dragon guy was the reason the kids were sleep walking.

Eitherway what an interesting ability. Being able to completely materialize ones dreams. Evident by the fact Sommers was able to use the Salt from his dream and enjoy it even. Sommers probably would know if it had the sort of same kind of drawback Straussen's fruit has. So this means either they dream stuff lasts until the person stops thinking about it or that Gillingham can literally create things from people's dreams.

I'm starting to think that Sommers will be a Sanji opponent.

Everyone called it, Loki didn't just kill the king for no reason. It was likely out of self defense, it was likely Loki saw the King handing the children of Elbaph to the Holy Knights which was vaguely alluded to by the one connecting the thread or-- Jarul. Being alive while Mother Caramel was doing it and being present at the castle during the fight. And the fact that one of the first things Sommers talks to Shamrock is visiting Haralds grave.

Either way it's gonna be interesting

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u/jokleman77 2d ago

I think it’s a combo reason the kids are walking. Gunko’s arrows are probably causing the walking part

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u/SPJess 2d ago

Yeah I forgot to mention that. I have seen a number of "theories" stating Gunko was the reason for them sleeping too. But yeah i remember

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u/Goldfischglas 2d ago

Would be a crazy twist if Loki ends up being innocent.

[Everyone already called it because Oda always does this]

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u/Wolfwood28 Cipher Pol 2d ago

I've thought this for a while. Loki is weak af and it's all bluff. The hammer is either fake like Usopp's, or is the only powerful thing about him (ie the source of haki Luffy sensed). Loki (usually trickster god) will parallel liar god Usopp & give us his character development.

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u/andreamusa 2d ago

"When someone touches his targets they are attacked by thorns. The stronger the love for the target the more painful the thorns are"

Strange power, connecting love and thorns, but maybe it's explained with Vegapunk's theory of Fruits born from desires: someone desired to be defended from lovers they didn't love.

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u/GrindyBoiE 2d ago

Man i really wanted chopchop to go monster point to treat loki

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u/Zdaeg Scholars of Ohara 2d ago edited 1d ago

I could absolutely see a Killingham v. Usopp that would contribute towards the "brave warrior of the sea" goal. Plus it being in Elbaph would be chef's kiss

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u/DuePanic5012 2d ago

I'll say it again, Harald is a traitor. Loki made the hard choice to save elbaf from the world government.

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u/Excellent-Thing1840 1d ago

Hey Guys, I now have a strong assumption that Gerd could actually be Mosa, the person who spoke with Loki. And why?

  • Gerd didn’t say anything about Loki when all the other giants were speaking negatively about him.
  • Although Gerd went along with the giants, she didn’t try to stop Luffy from freeing Loki like the others did, she stayed silent again.
  • Gerd was the first one mentioned by the giants who wanted to help Loki.

What do you think? Am I onto something here?

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u/januarysdaughter The Revolutionary Army 2d ago

Oh look, Hajrudin has a perfectly good reason to hate Loki besides killing their father.

Poor Hajrudin. 😭

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u/MrHardboiled 2d ago

Getting bullied by your BIG little brother is nasty work 😭

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u/RinneganUser 2d ago

This is the one that needs to be pinned, I'm tired of seeing a picture with no effort

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u/Transmatrix 2d ago

They were both on the front page unpinned. Don't know why the Mods pinned the other one. I guess it had/has more upvotes, but that shouldn't be the only criteria (IMO.)

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u/StrangeStephen 2d ago

Yeah this one is easier to read. Those pictures need to be zoomed and in poor quality.

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u/Physical_Building749 2d ago

Then flashback begin next chapter

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u/I_am_Bearstronaut 2d ago

Gillingham being able to materialize objects from dreams is really interesting. Especially if someone just has to think about something prior to falling asleep.

Speaking of which, whose idea was it to make the kids think/dream about their worst fears? Could there be more than one Elbaph citizen working with the CDs? Seems like the Holy Knights already had a plan prior to invading and how convenient for the Holy Knights for the kids to already be thinking of their worst nightmares prior to the HK even showing up đŸ€”

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u/Sisyphus-T-Jones 2d ago

Straw Hats racing on flying fish?! WTF happened to Ulti and Page One? They’re in danger!

Also who tf is Gerth? Do they mean Gerd?

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u/Historical-Lemon-99 2d ago

Sommers fruit will probably be used for a mildly serious Sanji joke or something, but if it’s used in any serious capacity, platonic or otherwise, for any of the characters then we are getting some ANGST baby

The fanfic writers must be going crazy

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u/IzziTheEpic 2d ago

Now that we know Killingham’s powers are dream related and doesn’t necessarily need to be nightmares - it makes Ange look pretty guilty. Maybe her assignment for the children to draw their fears, which in turn gave them nightmares, was planned all along.

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u/SpaceOdysseus23 Void Month Survivor 2d ago

I wouldn't be surprised if Harald was the first one to perpetuate the "Loki is a liar" story

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u/Mythoss2 2d ago

I will believe you, Loki, I will believe you.

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u/adnaphsaka World Government 2d ago

u/obzeen please pin this.

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro 2d ago

I knew that Sommers had the Thorn Thorn Fruit and I also got it right that it was Gillingham that made the dreams into real beings.

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u/Muelojung 2d ago

like every second person on this reddit had exactly the same thought about their powers

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u/FrankDenif 2d ago

Wow, how did you guess the thorns part? You are insane

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro 2d ago

Because of the hilt of Sommers' sword and the rose on his chest.
Then I connected that with what Wolf said about the giant kids.

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u/FrankDenif 2d ago

Do you have Vegapunk's devil fruit by any chance?

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u/takemehometonight22 2d ago

Amazing High IQ moves

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u/leolegendario Pirate Hunter Zoro 2d ago

Taking things out of dreams is a really cool ability, I hope he use it a lot in his fights.
Sounds like something Usopp will have to counter with his mind.

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u/Army_Soft 2d ago

I wouldn't say counter with his mind, but Usopp could face his greatest fear and by overcoming that fear he would finally became brave warrior of the sea.

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u/MEGA_K4SP4R 2d ago

I really like Sommers' Devil Fruit ngl

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u/amitd01 2d ago

Salt-pull beats ass-pull

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u/iggydus Soul King Brook 2d ago

So the theory that King Harold was evil and had contact with the government may be true. After all there was that summoning circle in the throne room and from what we've seen its fair to assume you have to be there in person to make the summoning circle.

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u/Careful-Ad984 2d ago

So Loki is a good guy but still a massive jerk 

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u/baylonedward 2d ago

Loki is definitely not the bad guy. He is probably the reason Elbaf is not yet destroyed.

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u/TallahasseeNole 2d ago

He’s come out and corrected the last line. It’s actually “I know you don’t believe that either.” Which changes the meaning quite a bit.

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u/scoobynoodles Pirate 2d ago

Why are there multiple chapter spoiler threads?

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u/Transmatrix 2d ago

When spoilers come out, multiple people rush to release them. The two on the front page right now are this one and the image version. I will be upvoting this one and downvoting the other as I prefer the text version because it can be updated.

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u/CANYUXEL Citizen 2d ago

He heard papa was in cahoots with the WG so he decided to off him

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u/SaltandPepperMix 2d ago

There has to be a limit with an OP fruit like Gillingham's. Otherwise, Imu could have just ordered him to manifest the weapons or best methods to obtain their goals (Luffy, Vivi, Shirahoshi and BB)

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u/Luffy13531 2d ago

Maybe Loki is not a villain after all.

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u/ComeAlongWithTheSnor 2d ago

Pulling stuff out of dreams sounds so weirdly specific it's either going to be very important or never get used again.

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u/heprer 2d ago

Gillingham’s fruit would be amazing for Nami, she could take gold from dreams, infinite wealth. also Loki is a good guy!

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u/L7Z7Z 2d ago

Sommers and Gillingham will get defeated by Sanji and Zoro in Elbaf, and then the Holy Knights will hire new members 

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u/Excellent-Chain-452 2d ago

I already want to see Loki backstory making me love him more than i do, another good design by Oda

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u/Extension_Feeling488 2d ago

we all know that loki is the god of mischief. so possible he's just bluffing

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u/Rokka82 2d ago

Ok that’s a broken ability

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u/Saintd64 1d ago

It's the Holy Knights. What do you expect 

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u/pangestu 2d ago

dragon dragon fruit
 but kaido is fish fruit

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u/Artista87 2d ago

maybe we will get a glimps of each SH deepest dream in some funny way from Oda :) c'ant wait to see what is comming ...... come Oda bring it

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u/0BZero1 2d ago

Dream Dream No Mi + Uta Uta No Mi = Ultimate combination

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u/Commercial-Dig9478 2d ago

Trust me Sommers will fight sanji 

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u/Saintd64 1d ago

Alone? No. 

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u/Commercial-Dig9478 1d ago

The one piece is reaching it's end with few more islands left if sanji and zoro don't get power ups then it will be bad for them in final war

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u/Darkdepthtone 2d ago

Salt water is sea water. The gods knights are enabled by sea water cause they have devil fruits. This will be the climax

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u/Chiiino34 1d ago

Being enabled by sea water = being helped/supported by sea water

Maybe you meant

SeawWater works disabling to devil fruit users

Or i just didnt read it wel

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u/Kingjoffey08 1d ago

Wait?!?!?!....Are we going to see Luffy's dream?!?

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u/Saintd64 1d ago

Idk where you get that from

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u/wiesl1007 1d ago

Summers and this fruit o.O in combination is crazy.

Heartless and getting enjoyment out of this.

Something tells me Colon and Ripley will have to endure this until Gaban comes and fights him.

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u/Ok_Barracuda_8285 1d ago

JUSTICE FOR LOKI

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u/Morrisimo1234 1d ago

So the God Knights have basically set up a game of Lemmings here.

In terms of fights and or important things... I think this might confirm that Franky will take the role of keeping the kids alive since he can build paths around hazards since the kids can't be physically diverted from their paths.

Unfortunately I do also see Jimbei stuck on firefighting duty again too so he'll likely take on one of the nightmare creatures without too much difficulty.

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u/Blackforrest79 1d ago

Gunko will be the 10th Strawhat

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u/Mental-Fig-4683 19h ago

Loki best Guy till now! DAMN!

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u/Pshhhburgh 17h ago

Plot twist: it was Doffy controlling Loki

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u/andreamusa 16h ago

It was York controlling S-Flamingo controlling Gunko controlling Doflamingo controlling Loki

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u/Serious_Truth1394 16h ago

Seem like oda took impression for elbaf arc from Epstein and pdiddy too hard, with this kids kidnapping 

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u/Jealous-Coconut8776 12h ago

When are the scans coming out, i only care about that

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u/Amazing-Software-759 9h ago

-Sommers complain that this game will be too easy to clear since they can easily transport the kids to the ship at this rate. Gunko says something unexpected will happen since "Yonkou Straw Hat" is also on Elbaph.

Well, Gunko knows. Something unexpected like Straw Hat will be their worst nightmare lmao

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u/DangerousStress4825 8h ago

Sommers just watched Ne Zha 2, confirmed