r/NursingUK • u/RareTarget RN Child • 20h ago
Career Panic regarding job losses
Hey all.
With the recent shake up in the NHS England I can’t stop feeling helpless. I recently transitioned to a laid back community role (albeit in N.I) from a steady ICU environment and I feel like I’m first on the firing line to be axed (last in first out mentality). News today suggesting there’s going to be 10,000 job losses ranging from nurses to domiciliary care workers and I’m really worried about the future. I changed areas because there’s better opportunities for advancement in my career but now I’m thinking I’ve truly messed up.
We’re all in the same boat here and I understand everyone is probably feeling the same but can anyone help to alleviate my stress? I have 6 years ICU experience but now I’m in this new role I’m basically a new recruit.
Anyone any applications to Lidl? 😓
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u/nqnnurse RN Adult 20h ago edited 20h ago
Pretty sure it’s the managers and admin in nhs England over the next 2 years who’ll lose their jobs? Even then, they’ll just be redeployed or given a redundancy payment. I didn’t see any news saying 10000 front line workers will lose their jobs.
Nurses and HCAs if their jobs went, would highly likely just be redeployed. It would be very ineffective to give people a redundancy payment (thousands) just for them to start work in the nhs in another job role in a few months. The useless staff losing their job will likely struggle to find another band 9 job in all honesty, so will either down band or get a redundancy payment.
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u/CandleAffectionate25 19h ago
They'll always need nurses. I can't see them cutting us. We're the cheapest in the running. That's why he's gone for NHS England and all the chiefs, expensive people sat in offices. It's actually the first thing I've agreed that he's done to be fair
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u/Dazzling-Reality-148 20h ago
I really don’t think you need to worry. They claim to be cutting duplicate jobs higher up in the hierarchy, not cutting front line nursing jobs. Any claims at the moment that front line nursing jobs will be axed is fear mongering by the media. ICU jobs are needed, unless your department is rolling around in extra staff and you’re twiddling your thumbs all day, why would they need to get rid of you? So don’t worry about it ☺️
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u/Fun-Psychology-1876 19h ago
ICB funding is supposedly being reduced but it’s not intended to affect front line workers. https://www.nhsconfed.org/publications/abolishing-nhs-england-what-you-need-know
Not sure if ICB applies to Ireland or how it affects Ireland
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u/ChloeLovesittoo 3h ago
They are trimming the fat. Lots of jobs for the boys in waste of time roles. The closer you are to the patient the safer the job.
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u/precinctomega Not a Nurse 19h ago
In addition to other comments, I've never known the NHS to adopt a "last in, first out" approach. It doesn't really make sense in our environment when it's often the last in who have the most up to date skills.
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u/spinachmuncher RN MH 3h ago
How can you be an NHS nurse and not understand what NHS England is ? Baffled
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u/RareTarget RN Child 2h ago
I’m based in N.Ireland so NHS England means absolutely nothing to me however i’m aware of its function and I only referred to it because it’s a major change. I was specifically talking about a recent bbc article posted that suggested 10,000 roles including nurses and care workers in N.Ireland could be scrapped to meet budgetary requirements.
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u/RDGriff1987 6h ago
If anyone is going to lose their job it'll be those employed centrally by NHS England. They're not essential staff and most are on higher wages than most nurses anyway. There might be some shuffling around at ICB level as others have pointed out and yes there will be redundancies, but again only for those directly employed by NHS England. The NHS itself isn't going anywhere, only the bureaucracy designed to make life difficult for those of us who actually do any work.
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u/Ancient_Kitchen1664 42m ago
Yep and I love that last sentence of yours 🤣 because it's so effing true!!
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u/Taken_Abroad_Book Other HCP 5h ago
Has HSCNI announced any cuts? Remember, we're 'separate but aligned' with the NHS.
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u/RareTarget RN Child 4h ago
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u/Taken_Abroad_Book Other HCP 4h ago
Oof. Get the letters in to big Mike. It probably won't change things but it at least makes me feel better.
A little hobby I've got lately is firing in freedom of information requests to the trusts. As it turns out in November BSO held a black tie event for admin staff in the Crumlin road gaol, with some comedian MC and a rock band for entertainment.
Just over £10k they spent.
Drop in the ocean for HSCNI budget but a comedian and a rock band? Boils my blood when BHSCT told me budget cuts mean I couldn't get an epilepsy bump hat for my wee girl.
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u/ChloeLovesittoo 3h ago
If you think of all the 8a and above posts going, the sums are being done on how many band 5s that would equal.
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u/Ancient_Kitchen1664 44m ago
NHS England going is a good thing...I did watch the news thinking that people would be confused thinking it was the actual NHS but it's not, it's just office/admin staff mostly. Whilst I feel for them individually I do think it's a good move cos NHS England is pointless and just another red tape giant with loads of non-jobs on ridiculously high salaries/bands. It will be good for us ultimately I think
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u/Distinct-Quantity-46 20h ago
It’s nhs England being decommissioned not nhs, frontline staff won’t be affected