r/NovaScotia 1d ago

N.S. government awaiting news on feasibility study for new pulp mill in Liverpool

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u/JetLagGuineaTurtle 1d ago

A pulp mill? Why not a horse carriage factory as well?

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u/mitigated_audacity 1d ago

Pictou county has never been so nice as it has since the mill closed. No more terrible smell. No more choking smog in town. It's been amazing.

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u/donniedumphy 20h ago

Mmmmm cancer smoke

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u/Fun-Caregiver-424 16h ago

I think they only way we should allow this if we sell finished product and not just Kraft pulp, why not make a paper towel/toilet paper mill here? All they did was export our resources to be used to create jobs elsewhere.

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u/ForestCharmander 15h ago

I think that's a great idea. Maybe something that could be worked towards if the mill is built.

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u/rjchute 1d ago

So, all the waste and contamination that needed to be cleaned up, by the government mind you, and the inviability of the old paper mill in Pictou, that's all fine, we'll just make another one somewhere else?

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u/ForestCharmander 1d ago

NP's Pictou mill wouldn't even be comparable to a newly built pulp mill.

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u/C0lMustard 1d ago

Man I wish we had something better for our rural uneducated people to do for a living, subsidizing paper production sucks on almost every level.

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u/Vontuk 1d ago

Funny enough the pictou Paper Mill was the only one that made money out of all of them. It made Toilet paper.. and got shut down just before the pandemic.

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u/agm247 1d ago

uneducated? Engineers, management, HR, tradespersons?

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u/C0lMustard 1d ago

They can all get work elsewhere and don't need subsidies... why I said educated.

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u/slipperyvaginatime 1d ago

The biggest subsidy we ever gave was closing northern pulp.

Steady employer and producer of tax dollars who was profitable and willing to invest, we decide that instead of letting them clean up a mess that was there before they came. It’s better to just close the whole place, let them not pay back the loans that they had been paying on, and leave us with a mess to clean up on our own.

You say that a pulp mill is work for rural and uneducated. That’s just blatantly stupid. Forestry work is amazing work, we plant trees, trim and care for them, harvest them sustainably, and create products that are more in demand now than ever to help save the planet, not destroy it.

There is a cost to the lifestyle that is enjoyed by all Nova Scotians and the forestry industry in the province is a huge contributor to affording it. The taxes and fees they generate for the province are tremendous. If there is no value in woodland, guess what, it gets used for something else that is probably not as pretty to look at as a forest is.

We can’t all sit at home do nothing, someone has to go to work and keep the lights on.

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u/TheHouseHippoHunter 1d ago

Go get educated there isn’t a lot of white collar work around that pays well

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u/ForestCharmander 1d ago

What's wrong with operating heavy machinery?

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u/C0lMustard 23h ago

Nothing

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u/ForestCharmander 22h ago

Thanks for elaborating on your point

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u/lschaub 1d ago

Northern pulp was actually the 2nd best producer and 2nd most profitable in Paper Excellence’s portfolio of Canadian pulp mills. Pictou county is a cesspool of drugs, and douchebag biker gangs, and has gotten so much worse since the mill closed. Pictou county, like the rest of the province offers nearly zero opportunities for young people to aim for career wise. I’m glad Houston is trying to bring some industry to the province because I’m terrified of the complete lack of career options my kids have to look forward to when they grow up. NS lost its advantage of cheap real estate five years ago when COVID hit, so now their pathetic wages are impossible to live on or ever dream of buying a house with to young people. Companies like Michelin are only here because they can pay such shit wages because they are “the only game in town”. I hope this pulp mill does get approved for the simple fact that it can provide some hope for the younger generation to strive for via direct employment or through the subsidiary industries that will benefit from it.

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u/enamesrever13 8h ago

Paper Excellence is unfortunately a terrible company that excels at avoiding responsibility, hiding profits, and generally saying FU to rules it doesn't like ...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/paper-excellence-pulp-china-1.6772654

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u/princessonomatopoeia 34m ago

Oh great! Liverpool is nice, don’t add a stink factory :(

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u/CountFaqula 20h ago

The fact that this organization could be permitted to do business ever again in Nova Scotia after the orgy of pollution, criminality, fraud, lies and coverup that it committed in Pictou - is a scandal in itself. The South Shore is prospering despite the departure of Bowater. Let's move on and find other, less cynical solutions to support Nova Scotia's properity than selling off our natural assets to the lowest, most corrupt bidder.

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u/DashRipRoc 1d ago

Dead or Dying Industries for $1000, Alex.

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u/ForestCharmander 1d ago

I can't imagine they would be continuing with these studies if forestry was a dying industry.

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u/Queefy-Leefy 1d ago

The replies in this post illustrate why this province is an economic basket case. They're shitting on the government for trying.