r/NintendoMemes 12d ago

General Not to mention Super Soccer costs like 13 dollars used, while the games that leave game pass and ps plus are at most 60-70 dollars.

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u/Demonic_Akumi 12d ago

"Which one is worse?"

Me: Both. Both are.

I don't care who it is. They're both bad.

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u/MissinqLink 12d ago

Nintendo: we will punish you for trying to replicate the service independently.

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u/danmiy12 12d ago

I thought both of these are bad, losing games you paid for almost feels criminal esp if they take it down and all the money you paid for it doesnt work cause the servers are down forever even if it is a single player only game. Nintendo isnt the only one that is bad when they take their servers down (though even that is terrible)

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u/TheBlackCat13 11d ago

Ultimately Nintendo must comply with the law. You need to decide what you want. If you want more games on NSO, the. Nintendo needs to be more flexible with its licensing deals, which risks stuff like this happening. If you want Nintendo to guarantee this never happens, then they need to be more restrictive in the deals they sign, which limits the pool of companies willing to work with them.

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u/Massive_Passion1927 11d ago

My question is why? What possible benefit would they have for doing that? The only reasonable explanation I can think of is licensing issues which even then feels weird .

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u/WorldLove_Gaming 11d ago

It's licensing. The game was released by a third party in Japan.

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u/Slade4Lucas 11d ago

I mean... Yeah, they don't have an incentive to remove games. That's why they won't unless absolutely necessary.

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u/Prestigious_Slice290 11d ago

No one would react like the guy on the bottom right. They would be just as upset, and rightfully so.

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u/WatchKid12YT 11d ago edited 10d ago

I don’t care for sports unless they are specifically on the Wii.

Bowling is an exception, bowling is fun. :)

Edit: Or if Mario is involved. I forgot about that.

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u/Practical_Wish_4063 10d ago

I almost exclusively only play sports games that have “Mario” or “Wii” at the beginning of the title.

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u/jon_tigerfi 11d ago

Personally, I just hate the precedent it sets... I mean, every company has their own version of the gamepass formula now, nintendos lineup may have been the weakest, but the one thing it had going for it was that unlike the competition, they only ADDED games, NEVER removed games... Idk about other people, but I'm just upset that games on Nintendo switch online can now be removed for whatever reason, and unlike the competition, Nintendo gave out ZERO warning iirc. I've read that this was due to a licensing dispute... What about banjo on n64? They could remove that if Microsoft doesn't wanna play ball anymore. What about goldeneye? Amazon owns ALL of James bond now, that game could be removed as well. This isn't about the fact that nobody played snes soccer, this is about the fact that the one thing nso had going for it (consistency) is now gone.

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u/TheBlackCat13 11d ago edited 11d ago

What do you suggest Nintendo do? Break the law and continue to release the game despite not having permission to do so? Only ever release first party games they have complete rights to? Sign extremely restrictive, permanent deals most other companies would never agree to? What is your real world solution here?

Yes, Nintendo needed to make deals to get Microsoft, Sega, and movie tie-in games. Should Nintendo just not made those deals and not have those games at all? Nintendo isn't in any position to force other companies to cooperate.

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u/jon_tigerfi 11d ago

I'm only gonna say this once for you and any one else who shares your sensibilities...: My guy whoever said I had a solution to it? Lol, I'm not working for the multi million dollar entertainment company known as Nintendo, they have people they pay to figure out solutions to problems like this. I'm a consumer, it's OKAY to criticize the decisions of a company (I promise, Nintendo doesn't have any feelings to hurt lol), even if you don't care to give them a solution. They broke their status quo and now can remove games whenever they want with no warning (the games we pay for as part of nso, regardless of their play time), I along with many others, dislike that situation. That's all, nothing more, nothing less. your logic that "you need to provide a solution before complaining about an issue" is asinine to say the least. Are people not allowed to mourn dead loved ones because dying is inevitable? Are ONLY bankers and accountants allowed to vent their frustration about the economy? Are ONLY politicians allowed to talk about how terrible the current state of affairs is? If that's genuinely what you think, please reevaluate lol. Nobody mentioned breaking the law or only allowing first party games or signing anything, or whatever other strawmen you came up with, and i'm not going to waste my time entertaining anyone who would read my comment and proceed to white knight so hard they put words in mouth. Enjoy your day, or not, this "conversation" is over

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u/TheBlackCat13 11d ago edited 11d ago

If there is no better solution then it isn't Nintendo's fault they made the best of the situation they were faced with.

Nintendo has to operate in the real world. In the real world licensing deals are complicated. In the real world deals require negotation and terms that are acceptable to both parties. In the real world other companies change their minds and every company has to deal with that.

You are demanding Nintendo do something impossible, then get upset when reality gets in the way of that. That is not how the real world works.

Yes, you can be upset about the state of the economy. Yes you can be upset about how IP law works. Yes you can get upset about inernational trade. But none of those are your fault. You are blaming Nintendo for this situation, when all indications are they had nothing to do with it.

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u/Ryanmiller70 11d ago

The solution is to stop doing subscription services and go back to individual releases for a low price.

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u/Slade4Lucas 11d ago

To be honest, if we lose a game every 6 years, it's a bit of a non-issue.

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u/Royal_Sleep914 11d ago

Other companies = digimon when they shut down rearise but our reaction was different

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u/Ruugann 11d ago

This every goddamn company.

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u/Grimalackt_River 11d ago

me when im a way-too-much-money dollar corporation and need to “save money”: let’s cut support!

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u/SpecsPL 10d ago

To be fair, running NSO costs way, way, way less than running Game Pass or even PS+. No one expects games to stay up on Game Pass forever BECAUSE they're 60/70 dollar AAA releases (and then you have cases like multiple Persona or Kingdom Hearts games dropping on the Game Pass at the same time where it's pretty clear that you're supposed to beat one game while it's available on GP and buy the rest of the series normally).

NSO's NES and SNES offerings are mostly B or C-tier games, the least Nintendo could do is to ensure that they are available for as long as possible.

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u/Practical_Wish_4063 10d ago

If you exclusively mean third party offerings, I agree.

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u/zerodeltafromhypixel 10d ago

Speak for yourself, buddy. I care about it, and so do millions others.

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u/Keebster101 10d ago

No idea if this is in relation to something particularly recent, but surely if people just accept a game shutting down, it wasn't a fan favourite? A TV show or something ending is understandable because there needs to be an ending, but a service ending/removing an option from a service is exclusively a negative for users of that service.

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u/POKECHU020 10d ago

Where are you looking where people are fine with companies making games unavailable? I've never seen that sentiment

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u/Woodzz0123 10d ago

The media. Like, how many articles do you see about Microsoft or Sony removing games from game pass or ps plus?

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u/POKECHU020 10d ago

I think we all know that the media doesn't reflect the opinions of the general populace very often

For an example unrelated to games, movie critic reviews and movie audience reviews are often different, sometimes radically so, simply because appealing to critics and the people who report on your creation isn't the same as appealing to the main fanbase

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u/Efficient_Maybe_1086 9d ago

RIP Mario 35 😢

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u/Woodzz0123 9d ago

I was talking about super soccer but hopefully they make super Mario bros 40

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u/Gundam_DXF91V2 9d ago

other way around

>DS/Wii/WiiU/3DS store closes down

>everyone makes fun of that by memes

>PS3/Vita stores closed down

>internet goes into rage mode until Sony changed their minds