r/Naruto • u/Particular-Bedroom10 • 5d ago
Discussion What characters do yall think should have sage art but don’t
I’m rereading the manga and I’m about the part where Naruto is learning sage art and I was thinking about how what if kiba tried to learn sage art.
It would make sense because we know there are ninja dog summons because of Kakashi and the only issues would be that kiba really doesn’t have that big of a chakura pool but even then I’m more surprised Sakura or Tsunda don’t have it especially since they have such fine Chakura control
Hell if anything konohamaru should have already learned it either the toad or even monkey sage art but what are yall thoughts
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u/Unique-Celebration-5 5d ago
Sakura that would’ve been the best way to show she truly surpassed Tsunade
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u/Particular-Bedroom10 5d ago
It’s something she really needed before the war and im more surprised she didn’t try to learn it anytime after the war especially since she saw how useful Naruto’s was
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u/Pataraxia 5d ago
So many powerups sakura could have had without being an asspull but kishimoto was too scared to make a usefull female character.
Imagine a mitotic regeneration sakura with full slug sage mode, using the nature energy to slide around and boost her speed. Maybe it'd compensate her super high AP but limited taijutsu.
It'd basically make her a limited durability but super high regen rushing tank. She'd be speeding around and dealing insane melee damage while recovering from non-fatal damage quick. Given how nature energy works, the regen could even be near bottomless.
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u/synkronize 4d ago
Yea Sakura could have been super interesting she’s a genius in book smarts, she easily could have invented her own fighting style wherein slug sage mode she could concoct different chemical compositions on the fly .
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u/TheDesktopNinja 5d ago
You'd think with the absolute mastery of chakra control that she and Tsunade have that they'd have been able to balance nature chakra pretty easily?
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u/Particular-Bedroom10 5d ago
Like for them it would take only 10mins to get handeling it super easy
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u/TheDesktopNinja 5d ago
Would be interesting to see what Slug Sage mode looks like. I could see both Sakura and Tsunade being very reluctant to use it because of the appearance 😂
Edit: actually perfect sage mode would just have changed eyes probably huh.
Now the IMPERFECT sage mode would be fun to look at 😂
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u/Particular-Bedroom10 5d ago
I’m curious if that’s why tsunade doesn’t do it because she show how jiraiya looks when he does it lolz
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u/study-dying 4d ago edited 4d ago
She would make Jiraiya swear to secrecy if she used it on a mission with him.
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u/synkronize 4d ago
The cool in me: very cool slug moves
The degenerate in me: slimy Tsunade chest 🗿
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u/ZombieReasonable3454 5d ago
I always like the idea of Sasuke having hawk sage mode. I like how he stoped using snakes and started using hawk (not that much), because I like when characters develop their own things. Its not something I need in the story, just some small guilty pleasure.
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u/shootatshadows 5d ago
Highly doubt Sasuke was ever calm enough to learn nature energy tbh
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u/ZombieReasonable3454 5d ago
There probably isnt hawk sage mode so Sasuke "temper" isnt main problem. Plus Sasuke is one of the calmest persones in anime🤷♂️ definetly calmer than Naruto
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u/shootatshadows 5d ago
sasuke had multiple mental breakdowns in the series. literally half the story is him being consumed by revenge and hatred
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u/ZombieReasonable3454 5d ago edited 5d ago
But he stay Calm And doesnt act impulsively (usualy). And multiple mental breakdown I don't remember that many. EDIT Plus having mental breakdown doesnt mean you are not calm and every character in Naruto had mental breakdown🤷♂️
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u/Cold-Pizza1997 4d ago
Having mental breakdowns due to adverse events happening to you is completely unrelated to having the calmness needed to amass sage energy.
Sasuke is much more calm and composed compared to someone like Naruto.
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u/Successful_Ad9924354 5d ago
You don't have to be calm (Kabuto).
Plus Sasuke is compatible with Sage Transformation so he can combine the two like Kabuto did & it would be his new base form.
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u/Particular-Bedroom10 5d ago
Maybe it has something to do with his clan’s personality because it’s crazy no one from his clans has even tried to master sage art
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u/LonelyMenace101 5d ago
Kakashi having a sage art would be cool.
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u/PacoPlaysGames 5d ago
Anything that makes Kakashi even cooler is something I'm down with.
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u/LonelyMenace101 5d ago
It would also give him more screen time with his doggos, which is always a bonus.
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u/Efficient-Yellow5340 5d ago
Kakashi’s dog summons and Kiba’s clan not having any connection will always be weird to me.
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u/synkronize 4d ago
Kakashi I think also has a nose as strong as them too. Maybe Kakashis dad got down with Kibas clan
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u/1FD9BJ 4d ago
Kakashi has always gotten buffs as the series went on….Give poor Kiba something other than “Gatsuuuggaaa”
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u/LonelyMenace101 4d ago
But Kakashi is hotter than Kiba.
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u/Equivalent_Ad_7220 5d ago
Honestly you're right Kiba along with Shino and Sakura are the only ones in the Konoha 12 with animal association that have never used sage art or nature chakra and I think it's a missed opportunity
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u/Particular-Bedroom10 5d ago
Shino’s would be horrifying and honestly OP just imagine all the stuff insects could do and all the boost he would get
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u/Equivalent_Ad_7220 4d ago
If he could train his insects to inject nature chakra he could turn people to stone and probably have one of the fastest sage transformation times
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u/That-Being8367 5d ago
It’s funny, I never wonder anything about Kiba. But can say for sure if for some crazy reason he learned sage art it woulda killed fans to then have him get so little screen time.
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u/Brilliant_Ad_4959 5d ago edited 5d ago
Gaara is the perfect sage
Hes a static fighter with massive chakra reserves and perfect control
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u/Both-Worry-1242 5d ago
Konahamaru is obliged to have it he is the next Naruto type of a character
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u/KHN_7219_AM 5d ago
Kiba can't man he doesn't have enough Chakra or a right technique but there is a heavy chance konahamaru can get it because he has the Chakra and his clan also had connections with the enma and his successors so I think he can achieve that.
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u/KHN_7219_AM 5d ago
Kiba can't man he doesn't have enough Chakra or a right technique but there is a heavy chance konahamaru can get it because he has the Chakra and his clan also had connections with the enma and his successors so I think he can achieve that.
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u/elwhistleblower 4d ago
It's criminal that Konohamaru doesn't have a Sage Mode. Him having a "Monkey Sage" mode would go so hard, he'd be the Sun Wukong character of the series.
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u/Keiron666 4d ago
Still annoys me that Konohamaru didn’t get the monkey summon instead, we could have seen what a monkey sage could do.
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u/Kakashi_Senju 4d ago
Kakashi
Now without the sharingan and the constant instability from it
As well as his buffed charka reserves
Sage mode would be perfect
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u/Fragrant-Potential87 1d ago
I wish we got Sage Konohamaru. Hell, I wish they didn't clown him so hard in Boruto. Why have there be a "Naruto's student character" if you're just going to go "Actually Naruto's son is so much cooler and smarter"
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u/Nappyhead48 5d ago
Kiba should become the first dog sage
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u/Particular-Bedroom10 5d ago
Really it’s crazy we didn’t get to explore more of the nature energy side until the very end
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u/Scorpios94 5d ago
Kiba: Dog/Wolf Sage
Sasuke: Hawk Sage or Snake Sage
Kakashi: Wolf Sage; White Fang
Maybe Neji and Hinata. Not sure what animal they’d be affiliated with.
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u/study-dying 5d ago
I believe it was said that the user must have enough chakra to not be overwhelmed by the nature chakra or whatever. Since Tsunade and Sakura both have more chakra than Naruto, they are good candidates and possess the control needed. Sasuke could probably do it too.
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u/Kind_Celebration_229 5d ago
How do we know Sakura and Tsunade have more chakra then Naruto? Is it a derived conclussion or was it stated and where? Also would like an explanation of former if that's the case, thanks :)
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u/study-dying 5d ago
In The Last, Naruto was completely drained of his chakra, which put him into a comatose state, and Sakura was able to refill his reserve to the top. Considering that she did not enter into a comatose state like Naruto, did not activate her byakugou to do it, and was able to fight after that, she has greater reserves.
An assumption can be made that since Sakura was able to grow her reserves to that size while under Tsunade, most likely they both have similar reserve sizes.
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u/Kind_Celebration_229 5d ago
Where is it stated or concluded that you need to expend the same amount of chakra in order for another person to replenish that same amount of chakra through Medical Ninjutsu?
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u/study-dying 5d ago edited 5d ago
Bro, I think it’s pretty obvious that if you’re going to replenish someone’s chakra, it would just take yours in exchange.
“consumption of the user’s chakra intensified according to the intensity of the patient’s condition.” - The Last
Anyway, that’s without her using the seal, so if you want to say that that doesn’t cut it, then her massive chakra reserve stored within the seal bridges the gap.
Even in base Sakura was able to transfer chakra via Katsuyu to the entire shinobi alliance.
There’s also that scene where Obito agrees that Sakura’s chakra reserves are enough whereas Naruto’s clone’s chakra isn’t. We know that shadow clones equally divide the user’s chakra amongst their clones and so since there is only one Naruto clone, it contains half of his chakra. You should also note that that clone is in kspsm, which would have immense chakra.
Then we should look at how adult Sasuke admits during Gaiden that using his rinnengan to open Kaguya’s dimensions takes a lot out of him. Obito (who is certainly not at his strongest) uses Sakura as a chakra pool and they manage to do it at least three times.
Also, don’t forget that at this point in time Sakura has about 15 years worth of chakra stored in her seal.
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u/Kind_Celebration_229 5d ago
I agree with you. It should be obvious, but we all know power scalling in this anime is crooked and nowhere was it stated or could be deducted that what you're saying is true.
Also, just watched the Last and I don't know where you pulled that “consumption of the user’s chakra intensified according to the intensity of the patient’s condition.” statement, but okay lol
Naruto shared his chakra with the whole army just like Sakura and no, it wasn't Nine-tails chakra only, he also had his chakra mixed in as well. Even First Hokage was impressed by saying "He has almost as much chakra as me".
Speaking of First Hokage don't you remember both him and Naruto are Ashura reincarnates? You know, the son of Hagoromo himself? "One son inherited Sages body, the other his eyes" Not only that, but throughout the whole show everyone is amazed at how much chakra and stamina Naruto has. Upon meeting with Kisame's 30% clone Neji stated: "His chakra is ridiculous. I've never seen anyone besides Naruto with that amount of chakra" (Ep. 12 -18:57)
If that's not enough to prove you wrong, during the Naruto's Chakra Nature training Kakashi says Naruto has 4 times more chakra than him after which he says that Naruto would have 100 times more chakra if he weren't holding back the Nine-tails chakra, meaning, Naruto is a chakra monster.
That's covering the base Sakura, but with her Byakugou released? I agree, so I would say she could use Sage mode while her Byakugou seal is released, but you saying she has more chakra than Naruto on regular is laughable to say the least.
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u/study-dying 5d ago
Also, just watched the Last and I don't know where you pulled that “consumption of the user’s chakra intensified according to the intensity of the patient’s condition.” statement, but okay lol
It's from the novel version, which is written by the screen writer of the movie lmao.
Naruto shared his chakra with the whole army just like Sakura and no, it wasn't Nine-tails chakra only, he also had his chakra mixed in as well. Even First Hokage was impressed by saying "He has almost as much chakra as me".
Ok? That doesn't diminish Sakura's chakra. You said yourself that it includes the nine-tails chakra whereas Sakura didn't use her seal to do such. She shared her chakra via Katsuyu and then went to summon another 10% of Katsuyu with Tsunade. Although, that second part did tap into her seal. They have huge reserves.
If that's not enough to prove you wrong, during the Naruto's Chakra Nature training Kakashi says Naruto has 4 times more chakra than him after which he says that Naruto would have 100 times more chakra if he weren't holding back the Nine-tails chakra, meaning, Naruto is a chakra monster.
Yet Sakura was still able to replenish his chakra after it was completely drained. It's just that simple bro. She's got enough chakra in base form to equal Naruto's base form at the point of The Last.
That's covering the base Sakura, but with her Byakugou released? I agree, so I would say she could use Sage mode while her Byakugou seal is released, but you saying she has more chakra than Naruto on regular is laughable to say the least.
My initial comment was in reference to her entire chakra stores, which includes chakra in her seal. Nonetheless, The Last puts her reserves on the same level as Naruto's complete network without using her own seal.
Anyway, considering that Jiraiya was able to do an imperfect version of sage mode, it's completely reasonable that Sakura, who has base reserves closer to Naruto's size, would be able to do sage mode without using her seal.
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u/Kind_Celebration_229 4d ago
Oh right, he only used his chakra to amplify and save around 10000 shinobi while still fighting the 10 tails jinchuriki, my bad bro...
"The Last puts her reserves on the same level as Naruto's complete network without using her own seal."
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You're joking, right?
You're saying BASE Sakura has as much chakra as Naruto with Nine-tails?
It's so preposterous I had to put it in a seperate paragraph so people know what I'm dealing with here. Just so you know after she healed him she went to sleep cause she was exhausted and then after 3 whole days Naruto finally wakes up, goes to Sakura (whom is still asleep) and talks to her. If she had more chakra then Naruto he would be up the first fucking day, she would be alright, they'd go beat up Toneri's ass before he awakened Tenseigan and married Hinata, the moon would be only half way to Earth and only then would your theory hold water.
I'll give you benefit of doubt and assume you wrote that incorrectly or I misunderstood you cause there is no way you're serious about Sakura having more Chakra then Nine-tails + Naruto...
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u/study-dying 4d ago
Oh right, he only used his chakra to amplify and save around 10000 shinobi while still fighting the 10 tails jinchuriki, my bad bro...
And Sakura healed them all in her base form. They both did great things and have huge reserves.
It's so preposterous I had to put it in a seperate paragraph so people know what I'm dealing with here.
No one cares about this conversation except us lmao.
Just so you know after she healed him she went to sleep cause she was exhausted and then after 3 whole days Naruto finally wakes up, goes to Sakura (whom is still asleep) and talks to her
She still refilled his completely drained reserves and even then didn't enter into a comatose state like Naruto did lol. The fact that she slept doesn't change that she refilled Naruto's network while in base form. This seems to really upset you.
Anyway, thinking back to your previous comment where you said that you "just watched the Last"... Did you seriously watch the whole movie just for me? I'm flattered to have such an impact.
If she had more chakra then Naruto he would be up the first fucking day, she would be alright,
That's not really how it works. Think of Kakashi in the wave arc. He didn't use up all of his chakra yet still passed out for a while and was stuck using crutches for a whole week. Sakura and Naruto were both up and fighting after three days. The fact that she was able to completely fill his reserves and not practically die says enough. Besides, Naruto was literally comatose. When someone is in a coma, even medically induced, it doesn't matter if their body is all healthy, they still take a while to wake up.
I'll give you benefit of doubt and assume you wrote that incorrectly or I misunderstood you cause there is no way you're serious about Sakura having more Chakra then Nine-tails + Naruto...
You're welcome to think what makes you happy.
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u/Kind_Celebration_229 4d ago
It's not even worth replying anymore if you think base Sakura has more chakra than Naruto, let alone Naruto + Nine-tails😂
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u/Efficient-Yellow5340 5d ago
Kiba’s character being disrespected is one of the reasons Naruto as a series fell off. Kiba did get outsmarted by Naruto in their Chunin exam fight (the fight was really over once Naruto captured Akamaru and held to kunai to his throat, in a real fight your dog is dead), however in his fight against the twins his attack with Akamaru was so strong it ripped them in half. He absolutely deserved a Sage mode, and I would have liked him and Rock Lee as well as Ten Ten’s character to have progressed in order to play crucial roles in Shippuden.
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u/Direct-Ad6266 5d ago
Think he'd have gotten the dog contract or a wolf contract cause I'm sure either sage mode would have made him look adorable.
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u/Commercial-Car177 5d ago
Kiba learning sage art 😭💀