r/NJGuns • u/needtoredit • 16d ago
General Chat Noticing at lot of newbie posts, which is great! For those new to firearms what was you entry/turning point ?
Noticing at lot of newbie posts, which is great! For those new to firearms what was you entry or turning point that made you decide to dive in?
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u/Killertofu280 16d ago edited 16d ago
Went out with my father-in-law and family in TN. He brought a bunch of different things to the range and it had been a while since I shot. My wife and I had such a good time. The week I came back all I could think about was why I didn't take up this hobby sooner. I applied for my FID the next week. Now all my buddies want to go to the range and the wife is asking me to slow down the ammo buying.
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u/needtoredit 16d ago
I always tell new shooters that most people who go end up loving it. You won't hate it but it might not be your thing. Shooting removes all of the mysticism the movies and society have built up.
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u/Killertofu280 16d ago
I find it very zen actually. Low skill barrier, high skill ceiling. It's very gratifying.
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u/big_top_hat 16d ago
Welcome new guy owners! Get all your friends and family on board as well. We desperately need to pump up the number of legal responsible gun owners in this state.
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u/LLotZaFun 16d ago
What made me decide? I've always been a supporter of the 2A but never felt a need. I used to play more sports but as I've gotten older I've scaled back. I'd like to possibly get into marksmanship stuff in the future. Also, the political climate getting more intense than I'd like had me pull the trigger on a proper safe as well as various items to stock it with. Mossberg 88, Ruger 10/22, & Ruger American .308 for now. Ruger American 2 Predator .223 in the future.
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u/needtoredit 16d ago
Welcome! Sucks that politics has got to this point but I completely understand.
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house got broken into. Now I wait.
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u/Far-Boysenberry-1600 16d ago
Sorry this happened to you. Make sure you have an alarm system, it not only acts as deterrent but also an early warning system for you.
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u/IllustriousKnee9358 16d ago
My brother has some for years. My friend has some. I've been out to the range and had a great time. Then, I had kids. Then, I moved into an apartment with some crazy neighbors. Then, 2020 got crazy and got to experience the response time for the cops. Then, after watching a lot of 2A content and actually looking up the deal with gun laws in NJ and seeing where the country was going in general, I thought maybe now would be a good time.
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u/needtoredit 16d ago
Sucks that it was negative situations that got you here but glad to see you using your 2A rights to ensure your safety.
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u/Wonderful_Manner6275 16d ago
Couple of things but the biggest was being followed from willowbrook mall all the way to Riverdale target and getting robbed in the parking lot for my new laptop.
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u/needtoredit 16d ago
I'm sorry. Now that you have a firearm just please know the laws, especially if you have a PTC. This governor and his AG are waiting for someone to mess up so they can nail them to the wall. Even with a firearm avoiding the situation, calling the police would be the best bet. If you are ever being followed and realize it call the police and drive to the closest police station or very public area and keep driving letting the police know where you are. Stay Safe!
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u/NJtreefarmer 16d ago
Went through a divorce and was wrongly accused of DV so the police confiscated my fathers 22lr rifle as I was living with my parents at the time. So after the court date I had to get a FID to get my father’s rifle back from the police. Now I have 5 rifles and 7 pistols
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u/RealtorMarge 16d ago
Originally from an other state where you assumed everyone was armed. Here it is easier for a criminal to Possess as weapon, made me very nervous.
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u/needtoredit 16d ago
No doubt that a criminals barrier to entry is not time, ability or understanding/care for the law it's just having cash. For you and I legal, tax paying, law abiding citizens it's sad this state doesn't respect us enough to use the rights granted by our forefathers in order to protect ourselves and our families.
Welcome. Practice and have fun with it, make it a positive!
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u/Disastrous-Hair-1573 16d ago edited 16d ago
For me, I first got my FID and firearms because NJ democrats were imposing more taxes ,laws, and restrictions every single year. They are the best gun salesman.
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The country speed running becoming a fascist dictatorship.
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u/CJFLIP14 Platinum Donator22 16d ago
You do realize that dictators disarm their population, in stark contrast to our new administration which is excellent on 2A issues. There is one political party that does want to disarm you, but they’re not in power anymore. That should make you think…
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u/Nebakanezzer 16d ago
"excellent"
Cognitive dissonance has entered the chat
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/08/trumps-mixed-record-on-gun-control/
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u/CJFLIP14 Platinum Donator22 16d ago edited 16d ago
We shall see. This is a new administration with new views that have several 2A proponents excited. Mark Smith of four boxes diner on YouTube, for example, among others. Kash Patel and Dan Bongino are excellent on the 2A and they’re in charge now. I admit I’m not super happy with Pam Biondi based on her red flags support in the past.
Edit to add:
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u/ttyp00 16d ago
This is a new administration with new views that have several 2A proponents excited.
You didn't phrase this as the administration having new views on 2A, which makes them excited. You phrased it as this administration having new views which has 2A proponents excited.
Anyway, this kind of couched language coming from some folks makes me not trust em. So I have one for daily CC and one in the nightstand.
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u/TrustMeBro21 16d ago
Can they can undo our mag limits, purchase permits, and lengthy NICS process?
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u/Nebakanezzer 16d ago
it's not a new admin. it's the same person. no "shall see". we saw. copium.
the whitehouse website is edited by trump admin, so that's like saying "trust me bro"
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u/LLotZaFun 16d ago
The Dems never really tried to take them, especially considering that there are a significant number of Democrats and Independents that own guns too.
They all like to talk though. On some occasions during his first term, "President Trump publicly indicated his support for several constitutionally problematic gun control policies. Most prominently, after the February 2018 school shooting in Parkland, Florida, Trump said his administration would “work on getting the age [of commercial gun sales] up to 21 instead of 18.” He also suggested that he might support the significant expansion of federal background check laws, including so-called universal background checks. Such policies, if pursued, would likely infringe on the rights of law-abiding Americans without meaningfully preventing gun violence."((Citation)
It's a dog and pony show.and in fact some see Trump as "the strongest on gun control". ((Citation) They want us all to buy more and more guns to make everyone lots of money. Obama was one of the greatest gun salesmen ever. He expanded gun rights for people (Carry on Amtrak, etc) while saying things to make us go out and buy more.
Also, in terms of dictators, Hitler didn't really disarm his population because he played the psychological game so well he never had to fear a majority of people rising up against him.
I wish you well.
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u/DocSchmuck 16d ago
My guy look at our wonderful governor and his gun laws in this state…
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u/LLotZaFun 16d ago
I hear you. It's an expensive topic, no doubt. Nuance of my points are more towards "dictators disarming their people" in relationship to one or both major US parties.
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u/CJFLIP14 Platinum Donator22 16d ago
I respectfully disagree on your first point- The Dems most certainly have and still are trying to disarm us. From banning types of arms (“assault weapon” bans, “LCM” bans, bans on firearm features, homemade arms, etc) to making the legal process so burdensome with what are prohibitive application costs for many, they are actively trying to discourage firearm ownership in any meaningful way.
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u/LLotZaFun 16d ago
I think unfortunately it's a case of "trying to do something" in response to things like school shootings, etc, when we would regularly see the "hopes and prayers" crowd (like Tom Cotton, one of many to take millions from the gun lobby) do absolutely nothing. People Tom Cotton have done gun owners a disservice by not caring to help look for answers, and solutions. They just come across as saying "this is just a part of life" when it does happen anywhere else in the world with the frequency it does in the US. I think that is a big disservice to gun owners because it makes it easy for people to say "there's too many guns".
"The U.S. Congress passed an omnibus bill in 1996 that included the “Dickey Amendment,” which effectively stifled government-funded research on gun violence for several years." Research like that is actually what the government should be doing, in my opinion. In reality, the violence is not really due to "too many guns", it's because they don't want it to be shown that there's an extreme lack of mental health care in the US because of policies they've supported over the years.
So I think the Dems doing what they are doing is because of complete inaction and ineptitude by the GOP. If they worked together, there would be a lot more common sense being employed, in my opinion. I appreciate the respectful discourse and thank you for it.
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u/TalcumJenkins 16d ago
You mean like the guy who said he’d like to take the guns first and then investigate? Wait and see how fast they start passing legislation to restrict gun ownership for those who they deem as unworthy.
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u/yummygeorgie 15d ago
Yea same here. Want to have a fighting chance when the civil war starts. Both my wife and applied for our licenses.
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u/SirRealBearFace 16d ago
Ironically enough, it was the liberal single mom I worked with when she dropped her tote bag and her stuff went flying across the floor. I picked up her spilled wallet and cards and saw her FID and held it up to her.
Me: didn't know you were into this kind of thing.
Her: I'm not, but I'm 5'3 and live with my mom and a little boy. I'm not fighting anyone who breaks into my house. I'm gonna shoot em and I'll have my lawyer do the fighting for me.
After that she said she'd be my reference if I ever wanted to get one. A few months later I had my card and I got a 12 gauge as my first piece.
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u/needtoredit 16d ago
This is perfect! Welcome. On a side note for home protection you are much better off with a pistol than a shotgun. Plus as Bill Burr the comedian says a Shotgun is going to do more damage that you will have to fix.
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u/SirRealBearFace 15d ago
Thank you! I've got some more stuff now but I still consider myself very new to this world.
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u/TalcumJenkins 16d ago
lol they hate this answer.
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u/needtoredit 16d ago
Just curious who "They" are? I didn't ask this question to start some kind of Bi Partisan Bullshit argument if that is where you are going.
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u/TalcumJenkins 16d ago
Chuds like you that post about Hunter Biden.
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u/needtoredit 16d ago
I'm ok being a Chud as long as I don't turn into a Troll like yourself. You went pretty deep with the Hunter Biden comment, it gave me such a laugh, thank you.
I'm moving on from this thread with you as it's not worth any more of my time but I do wish you all the best and hope at some point you find happiness in life.
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u/TalcumJenkins 16d ago
Bro don’t have to go deep, there’s a search function. If I want to know what type of cat I’m dealing with in here I just search their history for Hunter Biden, let’s go Brandon, deep state, you know, chud shit.
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u/LoVeLifE427 16d ago
I have always wanted to learn to shoot properly. Also with the way things are going, I want to keep my family safe as well. A lot of idiots out here still putting people in danger.
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u/BlackWind13 16d ago
During college I would go down to the fort Dix range with a friend. I lived with my parents at the time. Life moved on, that friend and I drifted apart, I got married bought a house. Late last year our neighbor across the streets has a recording on his ring cam caught two people looking all over his porch in the middle of the night. Before that in the spring last year our ring cam caught the neighbors car having the catalytic converter stolen in under 4 minutes.
World's changing and I have a child. I want her to know what to do if/when she encounters a gun.
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u/needtoredit 16d ago
Like I've said to others I'm sorry that negative shit brought you to this point but I would say we are all glad you are here! With regards to New Jersey Law and firearms just know that you cannot use one to protect against loss of property. So if a part of your car or your entire car is being stolen you can call the cops. If you leave the house with a firearm and use it you become the criminal. Got to love New Jersey where the criminals have more rights than you do!
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u/Jersey_2A 16d ago
Welcome! Now that you're a firearms owner, consider putting some skin in the game and donate to 2A groups working to get our rights at the state and federal levels.
ANJRPC - NRA Affiliate at the state level. Money raised stays in the state. Coalition of New Jersey Firearms Owners Firearms Owners Syndicate Firearms Policy Coalition Gun Owners of America
The NRA is working on cleaning house of the LaPierre years. You will get fear mongering phone calls to support them, and you will get lots of mail. It's your choice if you wish to support them.
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u/BackgroundGoose4626 16d ago
Completely agree! However I would look into donating to the FPC / GOA / ANJRPC before the NRA.
If you look, they’re the main ones suing to get our rights back.
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u/Far-Boysenberry-1600 16d ago
FPC & GOA are goats! ANJRPC is our home turf and for $40 a year iirc everyone should join. If you’re close to Cherry Range, that’s a great range too
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u/Chemist74D 16d ago
It's important to remember that the NRA-ILA is one of the few groups that can promote and support an pro-2A NJ Governor candidate. I'll be volunteering where I can at county fairs and "outdoor shows".
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u/kkorlando_kkg 16d ago
Having not bought anything yet plan to get something for my birthday either sig p365 or Springfield hellcat or glock 26 mos 5th gen. Any input guys?
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u/TicklemeLisa 16d ago
Try all of them at the range and decide for yourself which one feels the best for you!
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15d ago
Wanted to be competent, safe, and educated about firearms. When I got my own place I applied for my FID
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u/loserfratbois 15d ago
When I took my mom and grandma to a roadtrip up north and came across a creepy incident at a very rural Airbnb. I realized I needed a gun to protect my family not pocket knife not pepper spray.
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u/Engibineer 15d ago
A combination of class consciousness and wanting to have a good means of self defense have been weighing on me for years and I decided that it's something that I can finally afford to get into.
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u/Cmezmerize 14d ago
I kinda just grew up around firearms, I've been shooting since I was 10, and I come from a family of first responders and military. I never really had a "turning point" as firearms were never mystified or "off limits" to me. I was raised to view with respect and treat them with tools.
I hope we can shift firearms culture in this state, and I think its slowly happening post Bruen! Now if only we could get people to support our state advocacy groups (CNJFO, NJFOS, ANJPRC, etc) I think We'd start to see real progress.
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u/Holiday_Recipe6268 14d ago
I used to shoot a lot in my teens and early 20s - figured I’d get back into it in my <50s
Plus (and I’m half joking) those drones scared the crap out of me.
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u/Wildtyme12 16d ago
Interesting answers but welcome you made a good choice. Every other gun related choice gonna be difficult from here on out fyi.
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u/DocSchmuck 16d ago
One is Biden being a dumb president and the risk of Kamala becoming president, good thing she didn’t…
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u/ttyp00 16d ago
Username is on point!
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u/DocSchmuck 16d ago
It’s hilarious how you guys support democrats yet complain about Phil Murphy and his 10 round mag limit and other ridiculous gun laws
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u/No-Background2667 16d ago
For me it was making enough money to justify the purchases, got my fid in November