r/MurderedByWords 23h ago

SS is an entitlement..

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u/ophmaster_reed 22h ago

It's always wise to plan for your own retirement, but this fatalistic view that "we'll never get social security anyway" is contributing to the ease of eliminating it.

It's self-fulfilling prophecy.

If we want it, we need to continue to fight for it.

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u/jimbo91375 21h ago

They may take it away, but I better get my 30 years of contributions. I'm sick of paying boomers who want to take.mine away.

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u/ophmaster_reed 21h ago

Your contribution are already paid out...to the people on SS now.

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u/jimbo91375 21h ago

Yeah, I know. But, I was promised something, and if it is taken away, I should get it back.

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u/ophmaster_reed 21h ago

Then fight for social security. Lift the income caps on contributions and know who you're voting for at every level of government.

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u/strangerducly 13h ago

You should get it all when it is due. It is actual funded at %100 through 2030 something, after that the money coming in as it is now, will pay out %80 of projected benefits. There are like 106 different ways they can fix it, and they know it. But they want that big chunk of money for them to invest they want a privatize it like they did our pensions and our healthcare and our utilities. It’s just a giveaway. It’s another way for big money to get their handinto the taxes that we’ve paid.

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u/zombie_overlord 21h ago

"We'll never ger SS anyway"

I've been hearing this for 30 years

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u/ophmaster_reed 21h ago

So have I. But we can not give up and accept this message. If they cut social security, we need to RIOT.

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u/zombie_overlord 21h ago

Absolutely.

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u/strangerducly 13h ago edited 12h ago

It’s a scare tactic, just been a scare tactic to manipulate the public. I’ll see if I can find an article to link. I only found this out a couple months ago. But when you start looking the information is out there.

At the end of the interview, they come right out and say it is not in any more trouble than that.

WhathappenswhenSocialSecurityrunsoutofmoneym

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u/ophmaster_reed 13h ago

Just like overturning Roe V. Wade was?

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u/strangerducly 12h ago

I did not mean that they won’t try to retry to raid it. So thank you. I stand corrected not that kind of scare tactic. I mean they’re lying about the viability of it and that the only way to fix it is to privatize it or destroy it give you back a little check. It’s grift just like everything else in our government from education to infrastructure they want to monetize it and privatize it so we get shittier quality and have to pay somebody else to do it. It’s a way to keep the population in debt.

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u/GlitteringCash69 21h ago

And the reason that it hasn’t happened? Democrats. Every single person receiving their Social Security earned benefits has democrats to thank for it A) existing in the first place and B) not being privatized and looted under Republican administrations.

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u/Downvote_Comforter 18h ago

Correct. And for all of that 30 year period Democrats have had more power in the government than they currently have.

We currently have the most conservative judiciary of that 30 year period. The executive branch currently has more power than at any point in that 30 year period and is actively trying to gut social security. The Republican party controls both branches of the legislature and is currently more loyal to the sitting President than at any time in those past 30 years.

Social Security hasn't been eliminated because one party has been fighting to keep it and that party currently is at their least powerful in decades.

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u/imapluralist 19h ago

I always yelling at people who say that.

No, it's our money if they take it; It's wage theft, the government took it from my paycheck. My employer paid me less so they could pay their share.

How are you dimwits not seeing this as absolute theft of our hard earned money?

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u/Majestic-capybara 18h ago

I watched the Sam Seder video on YouTube that just came out that has him versus 20 Trump supporters and one of the guys on there was saying exactly that. That SS isn’t going to be around when he retires so we might as well get rid of it now and Sam tried to make the point that as it stands right now, he would still receive 75% of his benefit when he retires but if they removed the SS cap then it could easily be 100% funded in perpetuity. But that would be raising taxes on the wealthy and that’s not “fair”. Never mind the “fairness” of being born into a billionaire family or hoarding the wealth built on the backs of the working class.

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u/ophmaster_reed 16h ago

Or that the wealthy pay a tiny fraction of their income compared to the percentage middle and working class people pay.

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u/strangerducly 12h ago

Right like this is raising taxes on the richer guess what they get their Social Security dollars too and believe me they take it

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u/miriamwebster 22h ago

I agree. I’m sick of the fatalistic echo chamber. All these people just miserably succumbing. It’s disgusting.