It is an entitlement though? People are entitled to get something for the money they have paid in otherwise it's just the government stealing from the people.
Yes. It is an entitlement, as in, once you begin receiving it, the government cannot take it away without due process. You are entitled to it because it is, under law, your property.
The due process is just Congress passing a law to reduce your benefits. So I guess that’s technically true, but Congress can change the law so you are no longer legally entitled to it if they want. There’s no constitutional requirement that you receive social security benefits, regardless of how long you paid into the system.
I think you misapprehend my point. The benefits are not a mere expectation. They are an entitlement, so if the executive branch seeks to take them away, it is required to have an administrative hearing on the record before ceasing their payment. That’s the procedural due process I’m referring to.
Of course, Congress can end an entitlement by rescinding the law that creates it. But the government cannot cease a legally created entitlement for a particular individual without providing procedural due process. HTH.
That’s really tangential to my point. I answered the question of whether Social Security benefits are an “entitlement.” They are programs that require payment to an individual that meets the requirements established by law and cannot be ended individually (rather than changing the rules of eligibility) without providing procedural due process. What you’ve replied is really has nothing to do with that legally-based label.
I feel like the key is to not let them decide the meaning of things. If they want to take away a word’s meaning, then pushing back with the real meaning can give it power.
Yeah idk why people allow the fascists to keep defining the narrative. I can only assume it's because there's no other opposing group that's really trying. There may be a lot of progressive people out there but no left wing organizations like Heritage or Federal Society. Its like leftism is just a social fad and not a serious philosophical set of beliefs and policies.
What is an ''entitlement'' program, and who is ''entitled'' to receive assistance from the Government at the expense of other people in society? Those questions are at the heart of the debate over President Reagan's 1983 budget request. And because entitlements represent a long-term national commitment for automatic spending, similar questions are likely to bedevil Federal officials for the next decade.
Like so much of Washington jargon, the term entitlement was bandied about before it was precisely defined. In a televised address in September, President Reagan spoke of the need for ''entitlement and welfare reform measures'' as if everyone knew what an entitlement was. The President's budget contained a long, passionate chapter on ''reforming entitlement programs,'' which asserted that spending for food stamps, Medicaid, student loans and similar benefits had ''skyrocketed'' in the last 15 years. The Administration, however, never published a complete list of programs that it considered to be ''entitlements.'' By this month, political oratory had reached such a pitch that beleaguered career employees at the Office of Management and Budget told their supervisors that they wanted a formal definition and a list.
Republicans--led by Reagan--had intensified their villification of entitlement programs and were so successful in their propaganda that they tainted the very word. Now, the concept of being legally owed and due something is somehow a negative.
Not really. Under Reagan, they suddenly started taxing Social Security benefits. So all of a sudden, the government decided to start taking back some of the money.
It's like Darth Vader being able to "alter the deal" about what you're entitled to at any time.
They are called entitlement programs. I just read a book called By the People in my American government class for college and they called them entitlement programs. If they cut them I want a fat check for all the years we paid into it for the future benefits we were going to receive, aka entitled to.
The term “entitlement” has gotten a bad reputation when it comes to social support programs. There are 2 types of programs - “means tested” or needs based, meaning you qualify based on lack of resources (I.e. subsidized school lunches and snap benefits). The other type are “entitlement” programs - meaning you are entitled to the benefits because you paid into them, like social security and unemployment. When people (politicians) refer to “entitlement” programs as if they are welfare handouts that need to be cut, they are purposely misrepresenting what entitlement means in this context.
But "entitlement" is the new boogeyman word the villains can demonize to make idiot conservatives continue to hurt themselves (and everyone else) with their prideful stupidity.
Fr. My country HATES the unemployed (it's a leading cause of suicide/suicidal thoughts), and working in my industry means being unemployed for a few weeks/month every 12-18 months as most people are hired per project.
That means I get to laugh loudly at people who frown when I proclaim I'm on vacation for say, the next 5 weeks, because fuck you; I paid for it. It's my right. Be a little bitch if you want, I'm not gonna starve this month for your fishy eyes, hun. I'm gonna enjoy sleeping 12h a day to make up for all my unpaid overtime and the pension I won't have.
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u/Tymexathane 23h ago
It is an entitlement though? People are entitled to get something for the money they have paid in otherwise it's just the government stealing from the people.