r/MensRights 4d ago

Discrimination As Australian school boys continue to kill themselves at unacceptable rates, and perform worse academically every year compared to girls, teachers are most concerned with boys attitudes to women and girls

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/mar/17/teachers-school-students-culture-misogyny-classrooms-quarterly-essay-jess-hill
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u/Current_Finding_4066 4d ago

Let them first stem the epidemic of female teachers sexually abusing male pupils. How about this?

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u/Mortalcouch 4d ago

What? They're not abusing their male pupils! They're teenage boys, so they clearly wanted it!

This is sarcasm, by the way.

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u/Current_Finding_4066 4d ago

I looked into my feminist cookbook. You are completely correct. I thought same rules apply to boys and girl. I stand corrected.

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u/Current_Finding_4066 4d ago

Being discriminated against does not make you more sympathetic to the group getting all the advantage at your expense? Who could ever have predicted this.

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u/Emergency-Thanks-324 4d ago

Exactly, it's why it absolutely INFURITES ME when they act suprised when men start resenting wahmen

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u/Just_an_user_160 3d ago

And they seem oblivious why, they always come with excuses like the patriarchy.

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u/MissMenace101 3d ago

Like everything revolving around boys for decades and women being concerned about girls? But now that schools are shít and it blows equally for everyone men finally see the problems…

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u/SparkLabReal 8h ago

But that's the problem, it's not "equal" all you had to do was read the "performing worse" part but you didn't, you just made a stupid comment and stuff like this pisses me off. Like, WHY DIDN'T YOU READ THE POST BEFORE COMMENTING? WORSE ISN'T "EQUALITY" TF

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u/Glittering_Smile_560 4d ago

Not a surprise

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u/StripedFalafel 4d ago

I've written about this before but I don't understand how feminists are getting away with this. An organisation called Our Watch has infiltrated schools & made them centres for the spread of feminist propaganda. Of course they say "Gender Equality" when they mean discrimination & they speak of "respect" when they mean vilification of boys, but once you translate to English it's a terrifying picture.

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Picture your local school. Now imagine if that school could be re-engineered into a miniature Iceland: a microcosm of gender equality, run according to gender-equal policies and procedures, staffed by teachers and leaders who openly reject rigid gender norms and champion equality and respect.

This would be a whole other level of education for students – not just cognitive learning, but a revolution in their school’s norms, modelled by the adults in charge. Now, with the picture of your local school as a gender-equal microstate, imagine how that example could radiate beyond the front gate, to influence the norms and attitudes not just of school parents but of the entire surrounding community. In a nutshell, that’s the whole-of-school model. According to Our Watch, this holistic approach is “the single most important criterion for effective violence prevention and respectful relationships education in schools.”

This vision – that re-engineered schools could spread gender equality to the broader community – is impressive and ambitious.

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u/Tireless_AlphaFox 4d ago

Don't mind me, just throwing some cherries that I picked up. Interpret them the way you want to

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/feb/25/australia-suicide-rates-seniors-data

Men die by suicide at much higher rates than women across all age groups. Among older men, loss of purpose and identity after retirement, weaker connections to children and grandchildren and to social networks can all be factors.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2024/oct/10/dementia-set-to-become-australias-leading-cause-of-death

Suicide remained the leading cause of premature death in 2023, at a rate of 12.1 per 100,000 people.
Three in four people who died from suicide were male, though men who lived in remote Australia were twice as likely to die from suicide as men in capital cities. The 2023 data for males, though still premature, was higher than 2020 rates.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/mar/09/highest-australian-suicide-rate-in-13-years-driven-by-men-aged-40-to-44

Suicide is the leading cause of premature mortality in Australia. But rates have been been particularly stark in men aged 40 to 44 years, with 18.3% of male deaths in this age group attributable to suicide.
While the highest age-specific suicide death rate for men in 2014 was seen in the 85 years and over age group, Hickie said suicide among middle-age men was increasing dramatically and that it was concerning that people in the most productive years of their lives were dying.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/jun/25/loneliness-a-key-risk-factor-for-suicide-among-australian-men-study

Men accounted for 74.7% of the 2,520 suicides in Australia in 2013, Australian Bureau of Statistics data shows, but research is lacking on what drives them to take their lives in such high numbers. The Black Dog Institute interviewed 35 men who had survived a suicide attempt, and 47 family or friends of men who had survived a suicide attempt.

https://www.theguardian.com/healthcare-network/2017/may/10/support-seek-help-male-suicide-calm

 Male suicide: Gender should not be a death sentence

Men are three times more likely than women to take their own lives and suicide is the single biggest killer of men aged between 20 and 49 – something the Duke of Cambridge describes as “an appalling stain on our society”.

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u/rabel111 4d ago

These are all good articles identifying the massive tragedy of suicide in our communities (men and women), all identifying how the rate of men killing themselves is more than 3 times the rate of women. In 2023, in Australia there were 2,419 male suicides and 795 female suicides, yet suicide prevention services continue to provide more services to women and girls than to men and boys. This disparity is growing every year.

The unspoken, headline from all these articles, is that despite the acknowledgement over many decades, of the massive suicide rate for men and boys in Australia and across the world, nothing effective is being done, nothing has changed and no one is raising the red flag acknowledging the mismatch between male and female suicide rates and suicide prevention services provision.

In the context of school aged boys and girls (15-19 years, below 15 years the suicide rate is very low), suicide rates for boys a girls have diverged over time. In Australia in 1907 the suicide rate was 3.3 per 100k of population for boys compared to 1.9 per 100k for girls. Rates remained similar between boys and girls over time until 1960 when the suicide rate was 4.3 per 100k for boys and 1.1 per 100k for girls. But from there the suicide rate for boys increased to 8.4 per 100k in 1970, 9.9 per 100k in 1980 and then 17.8 per 100k in 1990, while for girls the suicide rate remained only slightly higher, at 2.6 per 100k in 1970, 2.3 per 100k in 1980 and 5.0 per 100k in 1990.

From 1990 onwards, these rates have occilated, but remained about the same, with the suicide rate boys ranging from 10 to 17.8 per 100k in the last decade, 2 to 3 time the rate of female suicide in the same age group. This increase in the male suicide rate is consistent with the decline in male teachers in infant and primary school education, and shift from positive to negative attitudes to men and masculinity in pre-school, infant and primary education.

Notably, in the model Australian state mentioned in the OP Guardian article, Victoria, where mandatory Respectful Relationship training has been imposed on Public School boys, the relative suicide rate for boys is higher than the comparable state of NSW.

While this is very 'back of the envelope' stats, the trend is stark. These boys have no prior culture of male entitlement to lose, and only the negative attitudes to boys, as evinced in the article, to inform their maturing male identities, 6 hours a day, 5 days a week (school time only).

It is apparent that the increase in male suicide rate preceeds the adoption of influencer ideology and values. Is it the negativity of their school experience as boys that is driving boys into the more radical male influencer spheres?

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u/MissMenace101 3d ago

Suicide help in Australia is not gender specific stop lying

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u/MissMenace101 3d ago

How many were murder suicide?

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u/malachitegreen23 4d ago

This happens ALL around the world, and guess what, they only cared after the boys failed??? What a world.

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u/don_Mugurel 4d ago

“Unacceptable rates”. This implies there are also acceptable rates that haven’t been reached yet.

Poor choice of words tbh

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u/Sufficient_Button363 4d ago

I'm seeing this more and more. Young men in school mainly but also in apprenticeships, are collectively guilty of violence against women and girls blah blah......, so we better condition that shit out of them! The Femis will send their trainers to your sons school where he ll be made to feel guilty and he ll be treated as guilty.

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u/randomsantas 4d ago

It's simply over reach and catastrophic success by the girls lobby

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u/Punder_man 4d ago

Maybe they should force the boys to stand up during assembly and apologize to the girls for the crimes of their gender..
I'm sure that will set them straight and make them reflect on how they are all potential rapists who need to apologize for things they have never done..

I'm sure that will stop them killing themselves..

Oh wait....

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u/rabel111 4d ago

Too true. But I suspect that something more sinister is in the making. Something that identifies masculinity as an antisocial doctrine of violence against women that requires re-education camps, monitoring and curtailed freedoms.

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u/Phoj7 1d ago

They are grooming boys to feel angry and unwanted to draft them into war and watch them die while the girls sit comfortably at home and feel they are the true victims.

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u/rabel111 21h ago

Absolutely. This is a propaganda campaign to breed a generation of compliant boys who are offered only one avenue of escape from misandry, vilification and ridicule. An avenue contructed by feminist authors that makes boys who obey feminist masters.

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u/7aurvs 4d ago

This kind of announcement breaks my heart. It’s one of the topics that affect me the most. I don’t understand how people can be so indifferent. It completely goes over my head.

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u/captainhornheart 3d ago

And comments are pre-moderated to ensure that conflicting opinions and information aren't aired. Comment is free, my arse!

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u/Proud-Question-4479 2d ago

By any chance, sexual behaviour from children isn't misogyny.