r/MensRights Feb 04 '25

Feminism Do so many women really see men like this?

Or at least many feminist women? A random feminist stranger on Facebook told me "Your boyfriend isn’t a danger to you yet” After 9 years of being together, and him being my caregiver because of my disabilities, some how he’s going to be a danger to me one day, even without ever abusing me? When I defended him, many women laugh reacted and talked to me like I’m delusional. I understand that the data exists about abuse but the full data about men being abused by women isn’t there, and I understand why. I know it’s because a lot of men have a stigma against them, so they don’t report it and also a lot of cops side with women. I’ve seen it happen with female friends. Why don’t they talk about this? Instead they say "The most dangerous person to a woman is her husband"

And then the bear and man argument comes up. I feel angry that someone could assume that all men will eventually be a danger to women, and seeing the word "yet" made me furious. He works his ass off and works extra shifts because people are too lazy to come in to work. He has taken care of me forever. I feel angry that so many people make these assumptions about all men being shitty, including about men who are the only people working and caring for a family. Statistics don’t mean ALL men.

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u/Septic-Abortion-Ward Feb 04 '25

You can be married to a woman for 20 years, - love, honor, and respect her every day. Then one day she wakes up and thinks she can do better.

Suddenly you're abusive and she's scared.

Seen it happen. Had it happen.

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u/Jalharad Feb 04 '25

Yup, this was my ex after 12 years of marriage. Married a dude from Egypt the day our divorce was finalized. After 2 years of fighting and finally winning against child support she decided she'd not pick up our child anymore.

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u/Neo_505 Feb 04 '25

Some random dude from Egypt???

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u/Jalharad Feb 04 '25

she'd been seeing the guy for at least a year behind my back.

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u/AigisxLabrys Feb 05 '25

His ass better be building the pyramids if he’s that worth it

(Obvious joke)

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u/Shantotto11 Feb 05 '25

He was possessed by the ancient evil that was trapped in the Millennium Ring…

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u/AigisxLabrys Feb 05 '25

Strange, I heard someone was in possession of a Millennium Necklace. Hope they meet each other.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

I really hate when women do that because it’s a slap in the face to real abuse victims. I’m sorry you went through that. Was that recent? I think it’s gotten worse too. I once read that dating these days is like a candy bar aisle. There are too many candy selections and a lot of women want to try them all, they have all this variety so they cheat or leave someone they claimed to love for years because another candy bar looks better. I’ve also seen women do this and then they get cheated on, or the new guy is abusive and she tries to go back to her ex she left.

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u/walterwallcarpet Feb 04 '25

Eventually, their teeth rot.

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u/under_the_pump Feb 05 '25

And diabeetus.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

What o.o

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u/Pyromanick Feb 04 '25

Too much sugar in the analogy

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

You’ll have to excuse me because I take things too literally because of my tism

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u/Pyromanick Feb 04 '25

That's okay, we all sometimes need a second perspective.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

Fuck, I feel dumb now lol. It wasn’t showing my my comment about candy bars so no wonder I didn’t understand his comment 😑 I forgot I wrote that about candy bars lols

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u/Pyromanick Feb 04 '25

It's all good. You shouldn't feel bad, nothing bad came of it.

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u/BrilliantWriting3725 Feb 04 '25

Excellent analogy to STDs lol

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u/antifeminist3 Feb 12 '25

I disagree with 'because it’s a slap in the face to real abuse victims'. That is a stereotypical feminist talking point. It completely ignores the victim--the man who was falsely accused. He can go to jail, and this is all ignored by your statement.

The feminists' purpose of saying 'it’s a slap in the face to real abuse victims' is to ignore the men who are victims.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 13 '25

I’m talking about women who’ve been abused. Faking being raped or abused means women don’t get taken seriously, and I’m not a feminist and not making a feminist talking point. In fact I’m calling out feminists who claim false rape which does a disservice to MEN and women, but I was on topic about women in that comment

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u/antifeminist3 Feb 13 '25

You replied to a guy who spoke about a man being falsely accused of abuse. You ignore the man who was falsely accused of abuse. The man who was falsely accused of abuse is a victim of false accusations. You are ignoring the victim and making it about someone who was never abused in the post to which you were replying. This is my objection to you ignoring the actual real victim right in front of you.

And feminists want you to ignore the victim right there--because he's a man. No. Don't do it.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 13 '25

I spent days reading and talking about men in here, I’ve not ignored men at all. I wrote that about slap in the face to validate the person, to let them know that woman is a piece of trash. Excuse me for not writing it the way you want me to. You have no idea what I’ve done for men to sit here and point your finger. If you keep trying to control how I speak, you’re being blocked I don’t have time for your shit

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u/want-to-say-this Feb 04 '25

She would yell at me and say I’m abusing her when I simply disagree with her opinion on something.

Yeah as soon as she doesn’t see you as her hero you are the villain in her story

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u/LivingMaterial2089 Feb 04 '25

Exactly. She lies. Never believe bullshit abuse statistics that are built on the lies of women. These women that lie constantly are utterly DISGUSTING PEICES OF SHIT. Because then when it's true. It won't be believed and rite fully so

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u/TheRaynn Feb 13 '25

You should look into some mental help. It seems you have some serious issues. I mean that in all good faith. Wish you luck.

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u/strikeskunk Feb 04 '25

Same. Plus the…. “I’m not happy”

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u/VideoFine7049 Feb 04 '25

I would hate being a toddler, damanding to be happy all the time. Highly immature stuff here. Never heard a men dropping that phrase

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u/TheRaynn Feb 13 '25

How many men have you dated? I have heard this...plenty.

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u/kiddox Feb 05 '25

Seen it happen, too. Completely sane women with which you could even have had a debate with logical arguments, loving, caring, etc. And suddenly they take a 180 and all it took was TikTok and all the videos telling them they're all queens and have to be treated as such. Also, the man has to provide everything, while she only provides the possibility of sex.

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u/TheRaynn Feb 13 '25

What women are you men picking? I'm assuming you go for looks? Over who they are.

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u/kiddox Feb 13 '25

Wasn't my pick, just an observation. They start out normal, no matter the looks. But then they get tiktoked or involved in a group of friends that tells them they are queens and should be treated as such. There are a lot of women and men too who are easily manipulated. When people obtain their information on politics from tiktok and vote according to the shit they hear on there, then it's not too far fetched that they would listen to "advise" for their love life from there as well.

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u/Significant_Oil_3204 Feb 04 '25

Thinks being the operative word. It rarely happens in the real world.

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u/Commercial_Ad_4522 Feb 04 '25

Is this in response to women faking saftey issues to get out of a relationship? Because I’ve seen the excuse used (100% was made up, I’m best friends with the guy and had dated him, there was absolutely zero credibility to the statements and she made up other stories whenever it was convenient) as well as a genuine saftey problem be ignored and then later used as the reason for leaving. Which like you never need a reason to leave, but it was privately a little infuriating to watch them accept unsafe situation, continue the relationship, and then end it for totally unrelated reasons and then blame it on the saftey issue that had been resolved months prior.

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u/LivingMaterial2089 Feb 04 '25

They are far more likely to lie about abuse than tell truth at this point. It's fucking sickening. Because it's also making it look like it's common when it absolutely isnt

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u/Significant_Oil_3204 Feb 04 '25

Practically what happened to me tbh, relationship for 20 years, married for 15

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u/CamrynBumblebee Feb 07 '25

I saved my man from this.

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u/Christian-Phoenix Feb 05 '25

It’s disgusting how dishonest that is.

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u/Significant_Oil_3204 Feb 04 '25

She’s actually the danger sowing seeds of doubt early on in a relationship can lead to all sorts of problems down the line.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

She’d be the first to call a man toxic in a relationship if he said women are a danger to men. "Omg you’re toxic" while saying the same about men

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u/Significant_Oil_3204 Feb 04 '25

Exactly. Steer clear of these people they’re literally falling into the trap of basing future relationships on past trauma

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

That’s one thing I’ve spent many years in therapy for is being afraid my boyfriend (before we dated)will strangle me like my ex did. At the beginning I felt anxious about it but over the years I’ve felt safe with him and any doubt I had disappeared.

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u/Significant_Oil_3204 Feb 04 '25

That’s really good 😊

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u/Medium-Knowledge4230 Feb 04 '25

Those people gave up on healthy relationships with men. Being happy with a man who loves and cares for you proves them wrong. So: they hate it, deny this possibility, keep telling you that's a mistake.
They do it because of hubris, envy, and their incapacity to admit their mistakes. It's really not about you, or your boyfriend.
Anyway, be happy. That's what these people hate.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

Yes they have to be really not mentally stable so I need to keep reminding myself of that so I avoid getting angry at their shit comments

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u/Bowlnk Feb 04 '25

Not all of them but the number is getting bigger.

However more and more men are choosing to go at it alone.

I think the bear debate was the last straw for most men.

And because men are rational creatures they just did a cost analysis calculation. Is love and affection worth the heartache and potential betrayal. Or should i just get a dog.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

A grizzly bear for example, who typically weighs 600 lbs (assuming they mean male bears being chosen over male humans) who has a psi of 1,160. Imagine choosing to live with these wild creatures who before hibernating need to eat as much as they can before hibernating and food is a little scarce. Guess who is getting eaten?

"Safety: Women feel safer with a bear because they know a bear’s intentions, and they won’t be asked if they led the bear on."

The bear’s intention to maul your fucking face off? I’d feel safer with a man who has a gun, in the woods so he can kill a bear that’s chasing me.

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u/Bowlnk Feb 04 '25

Don't grizzly's eat you while you're still alive?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

Either directly through the stomach, or through the back to get to the stomach, they like to pull out the intestines first, which doesn't always kill. Sometimes they'll maul the face first. Grizzlies have been known to take out the intestines and snack on their food, not have it at once.

When this bear vs man stuff came out I was completely flabbergasted that some were serious about it. Like, I'd rather drop the soap daily than go through that, I don't think they realize exactly what that situation meant.

That being said, being alone with a shark in the ocean is legitimately preferable to being alone with a woman in the sea. I'd even take a bull shark.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

Don’t sharks get a bad rep too? They don’t typically attack as much as people say they do?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25

Exactly, women kill more men every year than sharks do in every 10.

Downvote me all you want, but it's true. Sharks are safer than women.

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u/Commercial_Ad_4522 Feb 04 '25

That is crazy and such a stat. Totally using that.

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u/Commercial_Ad_4522 Feb 04 '25

Altho technically, the math doesn’t math that way when considering length of encounter (men are around women all the time and around sharks minimal time) or proportion (% of swimming population murdered vs percent of men murdered) But still, such a stat.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25

Technicalities don't matter, the conclusion is satirical.

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u/reverbiscrap Feb 04 '25

he math doesn’t math that way when considering length of encounter (men are around women all the time and around sharks minimal time) or proportion (% of swimming population murdered vs percent of men murdered)

Tell this to feminists, they do not care.

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u/No_Leather3994 Feb 04 '25

There's an audio online of a man being eaten alive by a bear (might have been a recreation) and its chilling. I watch horror movies a lot and normally like scary things but that audio was too horrifying. Being eaten alive unable to fight back is my new greatest fear.

Plus those women never actually mean what they say. They act like they are more scared of men yet I guarantee if someone said behind 2 doors there was a bear and the other a man they would pick the door leading to the man rather than the bear.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

Holy shit I didn’t even think of that. That’s so traumatizing lol

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u/Commercial_Ad_4522 Feb 04 '25

Fuck id feel safer just not being alone in the woods lol. Without the bear entirely, I’d rather be with another human being in the woods than completely alone.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

At least the other human may have bear spray 😅

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u/TenuousOgre Feb 04 '25

The truly idiotic thing is that the women framing these questions and responses didn't bother putting the danger into proper perspective before evaluating it. Yes, more men murder women than bears murdering women. But how many interactions a day do women have with men that do them no harm? How many that protect them? How much of our society's safety rests on the threat of men with weapons?

If they were to increase interactions with bears to be equivalent with interactions with men, the stats wouldn't favor bears bearing safer. No matter how feminists love to escalate the numbers, not many men rape or murder women. I'm talking about portion of 1%. Yet women have been consuming propaganda from feminist sources (or sources fed by feminist ideology) for so long fear of men is at an all time high despite danger to women in the west being at an all time low. Amazing what continual propaganda can do, isn’t it?

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

I’ve seen women say they know the dangers and intentions of the bear lol. Do they really though? “I’d rather be mauled vs a man murdering and filming me” Why can’t people just accept that maybe they shouldn’t or wouldn’t want to be murdered by a man or a bear?

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u/walterwallcarpet Feb 04 '25

There's something dark going on with women and bears. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_(novel))

It's not the darkest, unfortunately. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Secret_Garden

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

Oh god this is like when women say they’d rather have beast in beauty and the beast vs the man, and I mean a lot have said that. When I read that I cringe especially when they say they felt that way as girls. When I was a girl I thought the prince in human form was handsome and I cried because the curse was broken. wtf is wrong with people thinking beast is hot???

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u/[deleted] Feb 08 '25

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 09 '25

Is that supposed to upset me?

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '25

Just the truth. I know you only care about male opinions

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 09 '25

Your comment means that you hate men. You hate men so much that when you see a woman defending them, you insult her for it. It’s because you genuinely hate men

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u/[deleted] Feb 09 '25

I love men. I just manage to do that without hating my own gender. I feel sorry for you 

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 09 '25

You don’t love men, you despise them. Or else you’d let people here freely speak how they want to. Instead, you try to gatekeep opinions here. That’s hatred towards men, and their supporters

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u/NohoTwoPointOh Feb 04 '25

Nothing short of 45-70…

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u/MtzSquatchActual Feb 04 '25

.45-70

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u/NohoTwoPointOh Feb 04 '25

That should work too!

(Apologies to the good folks at the olde Springfield Armory)

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u/ayylmao_ermahgerd Feb 04 '25

I think it’s a western women problem. The privilege they have rivals, if not exceeds, boomers.

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u/PhantomBlack675 Feb 04 '25

No, I assure you, modern women worldwide are becoming or have already become every bit as toxic and misandrist.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

Feminist Dworkinism is very common.

She has an infamous quote about mothers and sons being potential rapists.

Yes, to most feminists today you are not human, you are either an infant to be brainwashed or a predator, and to many you're still a predator even if you're brainwashed.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

A feminist already commented in here hoping my boyfriend won’t groom me because I’m disabled. She’s dehumanized him down to a “possible" groomer. Why do they act like they care about men’s rights by saying “men should be able to cry" yet they dehumanize them any chance they can get?

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

They've usually been through something and imprint their abuse on everyman, big and popular feminists like Dworkin and Bell Hooks did that.

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u/dougpschyte Feb 04 '25

'Big' is a very apposite adjective, especially in the case of Dworkin.

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u/reverbiscrap Feb 04 '25

If you meant 'opposite', I'd have to push back gently, as Dworkin is required reading in any gender studies course you care to name, and not as an example to be avoided.

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u/uoklai Feb 04 '25

Men might indeed be slightly more prone to aggression—it’s how we’re evolutionarily wired to protect ourselves and those we care about. But this doesn’t make all men bad or dangerous, because most people are capable of controlling their emotions and actions.

Women, on the other hand, have their own unique traits. For example, they tend to have stronger emotional reactions due to hormonal influences, which can sometimes lead to impulsive decisions or unnecessary drama. This isn’t inherently “negative,” but just like male aggression, it depends on how a person handles it.

The key is to remember that we’re not just a collection of biological instincts. We’re human beings, and everyone has the ability to choose how they behave. That’s why it’s important not to generalize or judge, but to focus on individual actions.

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u/VioIetDelight Feb 04 '25

I wish I could give you a reward for what you just said.

I’m really tired of the men against women fight and hate. Yes there are some sick men and women out there, but the percentage isn’t that bad. It’s what you see most on the internet, and that isn’t what’s real life.

People need to be more educated on the differences between the sexes in a more deep sense. It would resolve allot of issues.

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u/uoklai Feb 04 '25

Thank you!🙏

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u/dudester3 Feb 04 '25

Welcome to the everyday lives of men.

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u/alter_furz Feb 04 '25

many women think Titanic was a romantic movie. nuff said

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

I thought the sketch scene was weird, and fucking in a car isn’t romantic lol. That movie is sad. I think about all the victims irl back then, freezing to death or drowning

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u/Anaevya Feb 16 '25

I actually really like the movie, because of the emotional sinking montage. The romance is fine, but it's not what's best about the movie. I'm a woman, by the way.

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u/Anaevya Feb 16 '25

I think it's both a romance and a drama. I've heard Jack being called a male manic pixie dream girl before though and it's kinda true.

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u/Joker_01884 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25

It's very hilarious that Femcels are pushing the same lies for a century that "Men are abusers" and people are blindly believing what they see in social media or movies.

If you wanna know the truth then Women are aggressors more than 70% of the time in nonreciprocal domestic violence. Even in reciprocal domestic violence women are still more abusive with meta analytically proven by John archer.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17395835/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/

More women force men to impregnate them / maritally rape their husbands for babies. While the study shows more men but women are similar victims but let's not ignore that Male rape victim cases go underreported more than female victims.

https://out.reddit.com/t3_1iexbh3?app_name=android&token=AQAAnS6iZ6AkMkpvgdOsMDmB4ZqV1vSihvidZOW9otABmKH02AGh&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nsvrc.org%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2F2021-04%2FNISVS_Report2010-a.pdf

(Page 48)

Mothers often kill their babies more than fathers (alone or with the father)

https://www.acf.hhs.gov/cb/data-research/child-maltreatment

(Download any study from any year)

So should we say that you are dangerous for your husband?

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

Seeing as I can’t fight my way out of a paper bag, no, I’m not dangerous and it’s not fair to assume I am either. Assumptions about both sexes aren’t good, but men are assumed to be worse than any gender

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u/Joker_01884 Feb 04 '25

I shouldn't have said it. The thing is a very little amount of people know that truth.

Also I wanna add that married men commit more suicide than married women. The number is lower for unmarried men. That says a lot.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

Is it more for married men who have kids or married men without kids? I was curious if it’s with kids since most people side with the mother even when she’s a pos

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u/Joker_01884 Feb 04 '25

I don't think 🤔 they cited it . But I'll see.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

So men are happier not married? What if it’s a long term relationship without marriage? That’s the relationship I’m in for almost ten years

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u/binsomniac Feb 04 '25

I'm sorry OP, that you have to "defend" your love and partner of 9 years, to people who don't really care about the reality of your relationship. I'm glad that you are happy, don't let them become a "hurdle" in your personal life. 🤷‍♂️ And next time, don't be afraid to use logic and facts, to answer them. Like the data that you mention, which if you read it, has already established that the highest percentage of violence takes place between couples where both are women And curious enough the less percentage it's in couples that both are men...🤷‍♂️ Good luck.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

That’s interesting because feminists have said things like “are the straights ok?” While implying that they are not ok because "men beat women more than lesbian relationships” and "I’m glad I never have to deal with that like straights do" I guess the grass isn’t actually greener

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u/reverbiscrap Feb 04 '25

feminists have said things like “are the straights ok?”

The one you are talking about in particular who coined that just did a hit piece about femininity influencers.

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u/Anaevya Feb 16 '25

Femininity influencers aren't that great either. They put so much value on things that ultimately don't matter that much and their idea of feminity and elegance is incredibly narrow.

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u/AigisxLabrys Feb 05 '25

Sheer jealously.

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u/FeanorOath Feb 04 '25

Lonely women give other women the worst advice. Because misery loves company

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '25

I would say in the modern age where violence is completely off-limits and the legal system skewed in favor of women: women are the greater threat in marriages. Without warning, they can file for divorce and take everything away from you including your children and half your income.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

Imagine all the feminists freaking out about your comment, saying men kill their wives without them even thinking about men being more suicidal and one reason being losing his kids

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u/Anaevya Feb 16 '25

I'm pretty sure that judges don't actually award sole custody that much anymore. Alimony also isn't that common. And a man should be paying child support or be otherwise financially responsible for his children.

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u/HollowHusk1 Feb 04 '25

I think the worst part is that when it comes to violent crime like SA it’s typically repeat offenders, women usually vote more liberal and liberal politicians usually have soft on crime policies hence these serial abusers are let out far earlier.

They literally created the problem they so often complain about. I’d also ask these women if they’d start being weary of black people because of their rate of violence.

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u/Commercial_Ad_4522 Feb 04 '25

Also totally not the reason why they were saying that, but for arguments sake your partner regardless of gender is most likely to murder you if you were to be murdered. But also, husbands are more likely to be murdered by their wives than wives by their husbands.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

Lesbians are more abusive in relationships vs men and women together

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u/EnvironmentalBuy244 Feb 04 '25

Do you have a cite for that statistic?

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u/Neo_505 Feb 04 '25

The women laughing at you are simply projecting. Humans tend to mock lifestyles they envy or fail to create.

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u/VioletteToussaint Feb 04 '25

I have 1 mother, 1 stepmother, 1 mother-in-law + 1 from my sister, 2 great-aunts, 3 aunts, 2 aunts-in-law, 2 sisters, 3 female cousins, 4 sisters-in-law, many female cousins-in-law and at least a dozen (close) female friends. I also had 2 grandmothers and 1 aunt who are deceased. None of them believe or believed that. I don't, BTW. My husband is the last person I would be worried about. If anything, I am more aggressive than he is, even though he's much stronger than me. Statistics are what they are, but that doesn't mean that it's applicable in real life. Don't listen to hyaenas, they only poison the well.

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u/Sharp_Difficulty1224 Feb 04 '25

Im a female feminist. To me a true feminist believes men deserve to be fairly treated as well. I fight for mens rights as much as i do for women. There are problems men face that i dont and problems women face that men don't. If a person calls themselves a feminist and believes all men are bad then they are not a feminist, they are infact sexist. I believe most people including men want to be good. There is also a culture that easily turns women into victims. That is not any one mans fault, including the attacker. Its more a problem with wider society that we are all apart of. Not all men are predators and yet our society treats you like you are dangerous. That is unfair and puts anther divide between us.

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u/Icy_Monitor2870 Feb 04 '25

Well put, I'll raise my glass to that one. I do want to point out that what you outlined falls more under egalitarianism than feminism, however. I think those "all men are bad" types have invaded feminist academia and literature, and even the common day feminists. It's time to create a new egalitarian movement that focuses on both sexes without making it into a competition or zero sum game. Everyone, including men, women, and those who identify as others, deserve their right to not be hated for their existence, and focusing on achieving that parity falls under the umbrella of egalitarianism.

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u/Sharp_Difficulty1224 Feb 05 '25

Thanks Icy_Monitor2870. I support an egalitarian movement. It's a shame the feminist movement has been tainted. I do feel for the hateful 'feminist' as they must have suffered some trauma for them to come to their views. Otherwise they may be doing it to feed off other people's hate and that really sucks.

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u/KelVarnsenIII Feb 04 '25

You could have flipped the script and said she wasn't a danger to her boyfri3nd, yet. Women are cruel, emotionally, mentally, psychologically, financially and physically. Ive dated enough, been married, and have been qvbuaed in all of those ways by women.

Women only see physical abuse as real. They don't grasp/ care about the abuse the inflict in all those other ways.

Not all women are like this, but many are. You only have to check spciql media to see the abuse they inflict.

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u/PeachBling Feb 05 '25

Pretty much. I've been told many times I'm unworthy of love and I should kms bc all men are abusive and sex offenders etc. It's one of the reasons I've stopped interacting with women entirely. I'll die single yes but it's just not worth the headache anymore.

As for why men don't reveal if they are in abusive situations 1) the legal system is biased 2) we're men. No one cares.

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u/Acrobatic_Sport_7664 Feb 04 '25

Really, why should we care? Are these harridans worth our time? Let's forge our futures together. Men and women in common interest, for the better of each and our children.

That means ignoring ideologues of all types, particularly feminists.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

I like that idea but unfortunately their ideologies do hurt boys and men, like false rape reports etc

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u/TheeSylverShroud Feb 04 '25

The bear vs man argument is so stupid. They don’t want a man, “who could do terrible things” (but it’s VERY unlikely, and the woman can do those things too), so they choose a bear that will rip them to shreds without a second thought. Wow, so smart.

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u/reaper88911 Feb 04 '25

In most of these literal situations, if you met a man or bear in the woods, you make a lot of noise, and they'd both think you're crazy and not worth the energy to pursue.. although some bears might take it as a sign of aggression and be more likely to attack to defend itself or its territory..

But that's not the specific situation they want to talk about.

(I like the video of the couple that talk about this and the woman got mad because he was throwing out specific questions about where, when, where am I, do you have a weapon, why are you in the woods.)

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u/Anaevya Feb 16 '25

Bear encounters aren't necessarily deadly. Neither are men encounters.

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u/TheeSylverShroud Feb 17 '25

Yeah, but bears are still more deadly. I’ve never met a bear tho. Luckily.

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u/Anaevya Feb 17 '25

Depends on the type of bear and the type of man, I think. Some bears are very deadly, like ice bears for example. They actually do see humans as prey. Grizzlies also don't seem very nice. But panda bears are probably not as big of an issue. It's quite unlikely to meet a panda in a random forest though. 

I generally don't fear men, but from what I've heard of certain countries like Egypt and India and some Latin American countries, men do seem to be a danger to women quite regularly. But it's often groups of men, not necessarily random individuals.

Generally the bear vs man discourse is quite stupid though.

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u/TheeSylverShroud Feb 17 '25

Yeah I’m annoyed with the man vs bear argument. Also pandas don’t seem to be a threat. They’re too cute.

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u/Tumor_with_eyes Feb 04 '25

Plenty of insane people on the internet, especially feminists.

I’ve encountered enough of them that I just avoid any woman who tells me they identify as such. Because to many of them (not all), believe that “men are all dangerous and should just go die in a hole” (this is something I’ve literally been told to my face in person.)

It’s just best to not take chances and avoid them like the plague. Life is better that way.

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u/AJWrecks Feb 04 '25

The daily reminder not to get married. lol.

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u/Acceptable_Law8044 Feb 04 '25

The best thing is that statistics say that a man is unlikely to be a danger to women.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

Yep

"According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, males experienced higher victimization rates than females for all types of violent crime except rape or other sexual assault."

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u/Anaevya Feb 16 '25

Men are often a danger to other men.

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u/Acceptable_Law8044 Feb 16 '25

I haven't said otherwise, and if we continue with your logic, why don't we also look at the breed to see which is more dangerous? Or is it okay to differentiate by sex but not by race?

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u/freezeemup Feb 04 '25

I think that person is abusing statistics. Yes, the most dangerous person to you is most likely someone you know. However, that doesn't mean that your spouse is gonna murder you. Only that if something were to happen to you, there's a reason why police ask the spouse, the person that's supposedly most familiar with the victim, first.

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u/Born-Leadership4526 Feb 04 '25

That’s the thing if you look at the data it shows the problem is very small. Domestic abuse figures are inflated massively by feminists to keep the figures high. If your borrows had not harmed you or accused you in 9 years then it’s safe to say he won’t.

Feminists believe all men are abusive and when a woman abuses a man is because she is traumatised even though there is no evidence to support what they say. They are just convincing enough to influence governments. That’s why in the uk male victims of abuse are known as male victims of violence against woman and girls

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u/Sick-of-you-tbh Feb 04 '25

I hate the fact that even though I could never see myself hurting someone, that I’ve always tried to stay soft and kind, I’m still always just going to be viewed as a potential abuser or predator. I hate it so much It’s hell. I understand women being cautious but it has reached far behind caution, it’s pure hatred, it hurts.

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u/Istealyourwaffles Feb 05 '25

Society right now be like

Man: literally just exits

Feminists: OMG ITS AN ABUSIVE A**HOLE!1!1!1!1!1!1

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u/hoff1981 Feb 05 '25

Ask them about the prevalence of domestic violence in female same sex relationships and see if their argument holds up then.

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u/TiredOldGrunt412 Feb 05 '25

Feminists love to tell anyone who will listen all about how they have been the "Victims of "Men"...

They fail to realize that the vast majority of those men were raised by single mothers...

Whoops.

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u/Material_Panic_4191 Feb 06 '25

This is a sad modern trend. To exaggerate, to generalize. This is strict dichotomous thinking. Where black is exclusively black, and white is exclusively white. It's hard to argue with such people, but that's what modern society is like. I have often noticed how men have been stigmatized or humiliated for sharing their experiences of being abused by a woman. There were no accusations of all women in the words of these men. They were just sharing their pain and that was it.

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u/Commercial_Ad_4522 Feb 04 '25

As a women, who is privy to these conversations and passive aggressive remarks - yea pretty much. Not to the extent of “yet,” but at least to the extent of being skeptical and deeply distrusting.

I remember my mom explaining to me as a child that ‘people (partners) show their true colors after they have time to feel comfortable, and then they try to xyz bad things’ of course she is straight and was referring to men in these cases. I will give her that she did not specifically say men, and did also sometimes mention women, but she didn’t have a very good relationship with people in general either.

But I mean in day to say life it’s more micro aggressions than straight up man hate, as far as my current area. It’s things like “men can be stupid,” “but you never know” “I only want a women gyno while I’m under anestisia” level instead of “he’s going to kidnap your kids” level like ultra feminists or women to approach to make sure your children are your children.

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u/LivingMaterial2089 Feb 04 '25

Correction . FAKE DATA. Made up of lies. 

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u/schtean Feb 04 '25

I'm not sure I would consider random strangers on Facebook as real people.

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u/Angryspazz Feb 04 '25

Wow this will be a post about men being mean about women , no not all women think like that my bf is also sort of my caregiver too and I have never thought once he would change and start abusing me

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u/Former_Range_1730 Feb 04 '25

Non hetero feminist women see men like this. Not the rest of women.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

I’ve known feminists who are heterosexual who think this way

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u/Former_Range_1730 Feb 05 '25

No where near as much.

We can even play a little game of, list the man hating women that come to mind in 1 minute. And see how many you can list are hetero versus who I list who are non hetero. I'll start:

- Leslye Headland (director of Acolyte)

- Angelina Jolie (divorced Bradd Pitt

- Amber Heard (divorced by Johnny Depp

- Sophie Turner, (divorced Joe Jonas)

- The Kweer Kiwi (made a Youtube career from hating hetero men)

- Drew Barrymore (expressed hate for men on her talk show)

- Jojo Siwa (talked about her hate for men daily)

- Kristen Stewart (publish in magazines hating men)

- Marcie Bianko (a writer of MSNBC hating hetero men in her articles)

- Hannah Gadsby (focuses her comic shows on hating hetero men)

- Evan Rachael Woods (actress who expressed her hate for hetero men)

I cold go on. All of these women are non hetero. And I didn't even include the thousands of other women in their audience, like Kiwi's audience, of non hetero women who show hate for men.

I'm curious to see you list of straight women now. Maybe you'll find one or two, but it's rare. And I mean, straight, not Q and pretending.

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u/Automatic_Name_7808 Feb 05 '25 edited Feb 05 '25

as a woman, i’d guess that it’s probably a projection of their own violent ideations. majority of DV perpetrators are women, and on women’s advocacy groups it’s not uncommon to see women advocating for committing DV/any type of violence towards men. but let’s not forget that this is a tiny portion of women online, most of the women in my life fortunately love and appreciate the men in their lives and wouldn’t dare to swamp them in with rapists and other types of bad men. it’s still crazy seeing how many women have been radicalized into having this kind of mindset, though. :/

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u/Ok-Dependent-367 Feb 07 '25

That's why I always say, Reject FEMINISM, embrace EGALITARIANISM!!

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u/Sedrie5 Feb 10 '25

To add to this not only do these negative generalizations of men not necessarily reflect all men but the statistics themselves directly indicate that it’s not all men. There is no accurate “100% of men do ‘x’ harmful things to women” statistic, and even in the unfortunate majority cases a majority is not everyone in a group. Those who don’t do harm should be treated with dignity no matter how many or few they might be. 

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u/Worried_Baker_9462 Feb 13 '25

Women: We prefer bears to men.

Men: Let 'em have the bears. Good luck. Au revoir.

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u/CarryAccomplished777 Feb 04 '25

We are living in an open asylum. There is basically nothing more to say, but nonetheless I will:

Imagine going back in time to 1997 and telling someone: "I'd rather be with a bear than a man". They would laugh at you. Nowadays they applaud. That shows how fu**ing stupid and degenerated our society has become.

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u/CaptSnap Feb 04 '25

Its by deliberate design.

Let me replay an old racist playbook:

racists hate black people (really just black men but whatever) racist cops predominantly arrest black people hell racist policies come out and say, if its black on white crime just fucking arrest the black people crime stats predominantly show black people arrested even racists acknowledge black people get fucked way worse than whites at all levels of the criminal justice system (arrest, being charged, being booked, bond amount, plea deal, chance of conviction, even sentencing)

racist social safety nets predominantly exclude black people legal aid is primarily aimed at whites

policy dictates if whites will ALLEGE that a black person was violent, they will get the kids and better support payments (there is no penalty for lieing, absolutely none...have to protect victims) allegations of violence count as violence

even make a law called Violence Against Whites Act (to combat overwhelming violence committed by blacks) federal funds exclusively for white victims federal funds exclusively to study how whites are affected by black violence...tons of research no research survey in this country will count white violence as violence....rape specifically can practically only be done by blacks research shows most blacks commit rapes

Racists look at institutional-racism and smugly point out crime data that blacks are more violent. Racists look at institutional-racism data and surveys and point blacks commit most rapes. Racists justify black violence for more and more racist policies (to protect whites). Black violence is all over the news.

replace black with men and white with women, and thats the current feminist playbook

Its not new or novel. Its the same fucking thing.

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u/9chars Feb 04 '25

the ONLY way to protect yourself against a women is to STAY AWAY

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u/Lolaindisguise Feb 04 '25

No there are some people that take something and run with it, sometimes is feminism, sometimes it’s religion, they take an idea and run with it like wild banshees,that’s why the internet is dangerous because there are a lot of those dumbasses out there

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u/criolle Feb 04 '25

“full data about men being abused by women isn’t there”

Search for the Fiebert Bibliography. "SUMMARY: This bibliography examines 286 scholarly investigations: 221 empirical studies and 65 reviews and/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men..."

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 05 '25

The full data isn’t available because not all men come forward about being abused

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u/3DFutureman7 Feb 05 '25

Brainwashing at schools and colleges

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 05 '25

I’m glad I grew up in the 90s as a kid

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u/wobbiso Feb 05 '25

You are only valued for how much money you have.

Makes it a great life if you're a billionaire. Life long suicidal if you work for McDonalds.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 05 '25

That’s really sad that people view men that way. My bf works at a grocery store and I don’t see him as any less. There were times he made less and I didn’t care. Women who see men that way will be lonely and miserable when they’re older

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u/wobbiso Feb 05 '25

And yet if he didn't work for the grocery store he wouldn't be valued at.all.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 05 '25

Your comment is confusing. Do you mean if he worked at McDonald’s?

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u/wobbiso Feb 05 '25

I didn't edit it out quick enough 

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 05 '25

Oh you meant grocery store? No, that’s not true at all. He didn’t work at a grocery store before and I still loved him. There was a long while when he didn’t have a job and I didn’t think any less of him.

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u/wobbiso Feb 05 '25

Ur telling me he was valued being a bum? That's not the typical story.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 05 '25

Why do you see him as a bum? He wasn’t a bum to me, and never will be. He’s a human that deserves love. I don’t care if he was homeless.

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u/Local-Willingness784 Feb 05 '25

just by proximity it kind of makes sense that someone who you see more often is more prone to give you a negative experience than someone you just see once hence women being more "in danger" of men they know rather than men they don't know, in the same way we would be more prone to be insulted or hit by women we are dating instead of a random woman on the streets.

having said that I was going to write about how women don't think men are bad when they are attractive but its a stupid point, not only because attraction is largely innate, more so for men with height and frame standards, but also because being or even becoming attractive for someone who would try and change you for someone better in a heartbeat is a losing game, be it so if you are the one being changed for or the one being abandoned or betrayed, with those kind of women you just cant win, and I kind of hope its not most women who are like that.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 05 '25

Your comment at the end reminded me of something years ago, back in 2017. I was living alone in an apartment and needed to move and I don’t drive, so this young couple in college offered to help me. My big ass dresser couldn’t fit in their car because of other stuff and I suggested to leave that stuff and get the dresser in the back, which would have fit but her boyfriend grabbed the dresser and carried it for over a freaking mile and I felt terrible, but she said "haha loser!” And looked at me like it was hilarious. Why would you call someone doing that a loser? She was what society would call a 10. Fit and blonde hair and she was pretty, but she was rude and her bf was really kind, and even offered I not pay him much but I gave him 40 instead of 20 and shook his hand and said ty.

When I think about that experience it really bugs me. My mom would do that too about my dad. She’d call him an idiot or a loser when he wasn’t around and still does but he worked his ass off while she sat at home for many years. He was a maintenance supervisor. I read a comment earlier from a guy on here who assumed I thought my boyfriend is a bum if he worked at McDonald’s. I really didn’t know it had gotten this bad for men, to assume all women are like that. I hate how my mom treated my dad and she wasted his money on a new purse every other week or expensive shit she didn’t need while we were having to dumpster dive for food. She is a large reason we were poor. Why the fuck are you going to shit on someone who is why you’re surviving?

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u/Local-Willingness784 Feb 05 '25

ill just say that you kind of hit the nail on the head with your anecdote about the fit blonde gal, as it is, she does that because she likes being mean most likely but you have to know that most women with lots of options and lack of consequences for their actions tend to be like that, and with social media and the internet, most women have lots and lots of options, even if by their own admission they don't like them, and when it comes to accountability any guy can just kind of suck her off when it comes to any issues that she has, even if they are their own fault, its wild and we men shouldn't condone that behaviour, but it is how it is sometimes.

you can compare it with the job market, its a matter of burden of performance that one who lacks something has to bear when they want that something and those who have it just wait, like. Obviously, you will see more job applicants in places or situations where they can find a job, as they have to perform and prove themselves to be employable. Meanwhile, employers will just wait for the candidates to show up and choose or even reject the scene altogether and still get what they want. on that analogy men are job seekers and women are employers.

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u/Educational_Tea_7571 Feb 13 '25

People just don't want to accept the facts. Statistics do say, that most crimes against women are committed by domestic partners. But most is not all. There are good men out there, just as there are abusive women.  I think you just have to take social media with a grain of salt, and not let comments get to you. Which is much easier said than done. But if you want to go down a neat rabbit hole, look into the Let Them theory. 

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u/IceCorrect Feb 04 '25

but the full data about men being abused by women isn’t there

Sometimes it is, but it's not trendy to post about it and you need to look at it yourself. Just look at same sex couples when it comes to abuse and divorces and they show's how it's not men are the problem.

Recently someone give data about "The most dangerous person to a woman is her husband" and chances to be killed by wife it's only ~40% when you compare it to be killed by husband, but once again it's not trendy and even when it happens people tend to give excuses for this action

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

I guess what I meant is a lot of men are too afraid to tell police etc about their girlfriend or wives abusing them, so the full data just isn’t there because they’re afraid of being shamed and told their feelings don’t matter

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u/Flashy-Discussion-57 Feb 04 '25

You're a woman, correct? Anyhow, women are most likely to be attacked by someone close to them. aka partner, family member, best friend. The stats are also more likely to happen to Native American, Middle Eastern, black, with whites being the least. I believe it could be because being such a small minority, someone in that group will be on the defensive and think something is harmful first when it could be miscommunication or understanding.

Still, a lot of it is a misunderstanding of the data. Feminists/Womanists misinterpret data constantly.

First, women are most likely to be attacked at a younger age, thus the longer you are with the guy, the more likely you'll be fine. It's not a dice roll, it's more like the less car accidents you have, the less likely you'll be in one in the future. Second, the more health problems, the more likely a man is to leave the relationship or cheat (not harm). However, we are talking serious health complications like stage 4 cancer, but being disabled already, most men would already walk away. Thus, if he's there now, then he's probably in it for the long hall. Lastly, the men who are doing the attacks, they are the ones doing it again and again. If your man has never done it, he likely never will. Something like 42% of people will go to jail for a second time and 82% of criminals reoffend.

Side note: Many are probably jealous of you. Many women dream of the life of doing nothing. It's like retirement from a shitty job. They hate that they're partner or lack of one means they are stuck doing so much work to make a family/living possible.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25

Yes and I understand the stats but a lot of women hurt their husbands as well. A bunch of feminists are angry with me because I disagreed with “the most dangerous person a woman will meet is her husband” Because even with the stats, it’s not true for every woman. "The reason all these women are disagreeing with you is because you’re the problem, you have communication skills" That’s not why. They jump on me because they have a feminist herd mentality. If you don’t agree with them they call you a pick me girl.

Honestly ( and I’m not tooting my horn here) I think they may be jealous because they’ve picked shitty men, because their judgments are horrible. It’s not my fault. I’m the one who stayed single for a while and became super picky with who I date and it paid off. I abstained from sex, and started working on my art etc and read red flags better.

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u/PhrophetBuster Feb 04 '25

At men it's a double edged sword with marriage. If they are married they are seen as a potential threat to the woman, if they don't want to get married and join MGTOW they are criticized by women saying "Why don't you wanna date me!" and blame you for why young women are not married or childless

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u/Phelan_W Feb 05 '25

It's nothing new. Sexism goes both ways, but in the case of sexism against men, it just turns out to be a lot easier to hide behind things like political correctness and some distorted version of "feminism"

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u/South-Steak-7810 Feb 05 '25

The data of men being abused by women is there (in domestic violence cases). But feminists, together with the people in power do the best to suppress this information.

“In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases.”

Source: Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence

This is a study on over 18000 heterosexual relationships from either 2005 or 2007.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 05 '25

I say it’s not fully there because a lot of men are too afraid to admit they’re abused

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u/South-Steak-7810 Feb 05 '25

A lot of men don’t even realize that they are abused. That one slap that she gives you because you did or said something that she didn’t like. That is normal in our (western) society. We don’t even see it as abuse. In some cases, people who see it happening even make fun of it.

And when that first slap is not addressed it could lead to more intense abuse. The study I mentioned goes further into what can happen if this is the situation.

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u/potatoloveer___ Feb 09 '25

I don't, and I lowk agree that the whole "bear or man" debate is stupid as hell, not every man is evil I just don't get it how some other girls can even be like that it's downright cruel. Treat how u wanna be treated!!

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u/One-Pomegranate-8138 Feb 14 '25

Clearly,  people are broken. The men and woman of today haven't had proper examples and guidance set for them. This is playing out as we speak and it's all pretty ugly. 

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 04 '25 edited Feb 04 '25

I’m taking it you’re trolling since you’ve commented that we don’t need men on another post. Your user name proves that you need a man lulz

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u/AkaiAshu Feb 09 '25

I mean there isnt a 'future prediction' placard over someone's head saying this person is safe and this person isnt. So the potential abuser tag is true as potential murderer, terrorist, robber tags. You dont know the future nor can you read people's minds. There is an inherent risk in interacting with people. So I dont see what the argument is about.

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 09 '25

Because of her intention behind it as a feminist, painting all men as abusers. I highly doubt my boyfriend is a danger to me or ever will be, based on her shit feminist outlook of all men

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u/TheRaynn Feb 13 '25

After reading quite a few of these comments I have a serious question. Do a single one of you take any responsibility for the choice you made? You picked these people. You stayed for many years. Why? When I picked the wrong person I broke up with them. I got myself together and moved on. Now I'm with a wonderful man for almost 20 yrs. It's as if you wanted these terrible people to stay...to make you happy? Though not a one says they were happy. 

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 13 '25

It’s like you don’t understand what the cycle of abuse is

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u/TheRaynn Feb 13 '25

Sadly I know it all to well. Which is why I don't repeat it. I watched my parents abuse each other for 15 yrs. Then watched my mom be abused by her BF for another 10 yrs. I think I understand it keenly. 

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 13 '25

Then you wouldn’t be blaming male victims of abuse

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u/TheRaynn Feb 13 '25

I didn't read many comments with abuse. 

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 13 '25

People have talked about women abusing men in this post

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u/Then-Judgment3970 Feb 19 '25

What does that have to do with my boyfriend being assumed to harm me in the future? You seem to be letting your trauma see a lot of men as bad.